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Redesign Ultimate's (newcomer) roster

Perkilator

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Naturally, given all the other threads, an Ultimate resdesign is the next logical step, IMO. Of course, just like those threads, even an Ultimate redesign thread requires a few rules.
  1. You can extend the base game fighter numbers to #1-#75
  2. Since "Everyone is Here!" is still a thing, you can only redesign the newcomer roster, including Echo Fighters
  3. Speaking of which, you can have up to 10 Echo Fighters, and only one Echo Fighter per series
  4. Even though this is given another year to introduce Fighters #71-75, you can't introduce characters from games released after 2017 in the base game, nor characters from games released after 2019 in the DLC
  5. You can have up to 2 Fighters Passes with 6 Challenger Packs each
My roster:
64MeleeBrawlSm4shNewcomers

  • 1. Mario
  • 2. Donkey Kong
  • 3. Link
  • 4. Samus
    • 4ε. Dark Samus
  • 5. Yoshi
  • 6. Kirby
  • 7. Fox
  • 8. Pikachu
  • 9. Luigi
  • 10. Ness
  • 11. Captain Falcon
  • 12. Jigglypuff
  • 13. Peach
    • 13ε. Daisy
  • 14. Bowser
  • 15. Ice Climbers
  • 16. Sheik
  • 17. Zelda
  • 18. Dr. Mario
  • 19. Pichu
  • 20. Falco
  • 21. Marth
    • 21ε. Lucina
  • 22. Young Link
  • 23. Ganondorf
  • 24. Mewtwo
  • 25. Roy
    • 25ε. Chrom
  • 26. Mr. Game & Watch
  • 27. Meta Knight
  • 28. Pit
    • 28ε. Dark Pit
  • 29. Zero Suit Samus
  • 30. Wario
  • 31. Snake
  • 32. Ike
  • Pokémon Trainer
    • 33. Squirtle
    • 34. Ivysaur
    • 35. Charizard
  • 36. Diddy Kong
    • 36ε. Dixie Kong
  • 37. Lucas
  • 38. Sonic
    • 38ε. Shadow
  • 39. King Dedede
  • 40. Olimar
    • 40ε. Alph
  • 41. Lucario
  • 42. R.O.B.
  • 43.Toon Link
  • 44. Wolf
  • 45. Villager
  • 46. Mega Man
  • 47. Wii Fit Trainer
  • 48. Rosalina & Luma
  • 49. Little Mac
    • 49ε. Glass Joe
  • 50. Greninja
  • Mii Fighters
    • 51. Brawler
    • 52. Swordfighter
    • 53. Gunner
  • 54. Palutena
  • 55. PAC-MAN
  • 56. Robin
  • 57. Shulk
  • 58. Bowser Jr.
  • 59. Duck Hunt
  • 60. Ryu
    • 60ε. Ken
  • 61. Cloud
  • 62. Corrin
  • 63. Bayonetta
  • 64. Inkling
  • 65. Simon
    • 65ε. Richter
  • 66. Ridley
  • 67. King K. Rool
  • 68. Isabelle
  • 69. Incineroar
  • 70. Waluigi
  • 71-72. Pyra / Mythra
  • 73. Bandana Waddle Dee
  • 74. Min Min
  • 75. Banjo & Kazooie

Veteran changes (existing ones aside)
  • Mario
    • Side B is now Tanooki Tail, which acts as Mario's take on Tatsumaki Senpukyaku
    • Down B is now Spin from the Galaxy games, which reflects projectiles
  • Donkey Kong
    • Spinning Kong is now Side B
    • Hand Slap is now down Smash
    • Up B now has Donkey Kong aiming a Barrel Cannon in eight directions
    • Down B is now a Barrel Throw (the barrels never spawn items even if items are on)
  • Link
  • Kirby
    • Inhale can now suck in and spit out non-energy projectiles
    • Side B is now Wheel, where Kirby rolls forward at high speed
    • Up B is now Hi-Jump, as depicted in Return to Dream Land
    • Down tilt is now Slide
    • Side Smash is now Hammer Flip
    • Up Smash is now Needle Attack
    • Down Smash is now Spark Attack
  • Luigi
    • Side B is now Hammer Swing, a slower take on Mario's new Side B
    • Down B is now Ground Pound, which causes a small shockwave on the ground and can spike opponents when used in the air
  • Dr. Mario
    • Megavitamins now deal either fire damage, ice damage or electric damage
    • Dash Attack is now the People's Elbow, which spikes opponents
    • Forward Smash is now an electrified straight punch
    • Up throw is now an uppercut
    • Down B is now Bandage Spin; faster, travels higher, and has heavy armor when used in the air
    • Jab 3 is now a low uppercut
    • Up air no longer performs a full backflip, replacing it with a short lingering hitbox
    • Side B is now Science Lab. where Dr. Mario throws a potion that either explodes, paralyzes or freezes opponents
    • Forward tilt is now a forward kick
    • Down throw is now a downward palm thrust with both hands
    • Down Smash is now an electric shockwave from both hands on both sides of Dr. Mario
  • Young Link
    • Young Link now uses the Mirror Shield and Razor Sword
  • Ganondorf
  • Pit
    • Pit now retains the Three Sacred Treasures as his Final Smash
  • Sonic
  • King Dedede
    • Side B is now Giant Dedede Swing
    • Gordo Throw is now Down B
    • Gordos can now only be sent back to Dedede by proper reflectors and ignores regular attacks and counters
  • Little Mac
    • Aerial revamp (though keep in mind, his grounded attacks are still stronger)
    • Aerial Jolt Haymaker can cancel into Rocket Uppercut
    • Rocket Uppercut goes higher in the air
Echo Fighter differences
  • Dark Samus
    • A fully charged Charge Shot now has Dark Samus fire three homing shots
    • Forward Smash now has Dark Samus fire a volley of bullets
    • Down Smash now has Dark Samus summon Phazon tentacles from the ground
    • Down B is now Phazon Seed, which inflicts Phazon, which works like a mix between ink and poison
    • Final Smash has Dark Samus turn into Metroid Prime, mimicking the second form's boss battle from MP1
  • Daisy
    • Neutral B is now Trick Shot, which is a special counter than only works on projectiles
    • Side B, Daisy Bomber, now inflicts the flower effect at the cost of more endlag
    • Down B is now Superball, where she grabs a random sports ball with differing effects
    • Final Smash, Daisy Blossom, now inflicts a flower effect that affects every opponent on screen
    • Dash attack is now a single hit
    • Forward air has an early hit and a late hit, the latter of which can spike opponents
    • Daisy inherits Peach's old throws
    • Forward tilt now sends the opponent horizontally and ditches the late hit
    • Up Smash now scoops the opponent at the cost of no more invincibility
    • The float is ditched in favor of a higher midair jump that works closer to something like Ness and Mewtwo's midair jumps
    • Down Smash is now a single hit
    • Down tilt trades its spike for less endlag and more hitstun
  • Lucina
    • Neutral B is now Dashing Assault
    • Side B is now Effortless Blade
    • Up B is now Dolphin Jump
    • Down B is now Easy Counter
  • Dark Pit
    • Side B now has Dark Pit use his Staff; much slower than the item but retains the same effect
    • Down B is now Gemini Orbitars, which deal greater knockback at the cost of no more reflector
    • Final Smash is now the Lightning Chariot
  • Dixie Kong
    • Dixie has a midair jump similar to Mewtwo and Ness, and can also glide by holding the jump button after a jump
    • Neutral B is Bubblegum Popgun; Dixie charges a bubble gum projectile that deals paralysis relative to its charge
    • Side B is Spinning Kong
    • Final Smash is Konga Beat, which works more like Barbara the Bat's Assist Trophy function but with paralysis
  • Shadow
  • Alph
    • Uses a single Rock Pikmin weighing as much as three of Olimar’s Pikmin
  • Glass Joe
    • Basically retains Little Mac's old moveset, with the only difference being a new Final Smash called "Vive la France"
    • More balanced grounded and aerial attack power, but everything else about Joe is worse
  • Ken
    • Basically, keep the differences he has in canon
  • Richter
    • Richter's Holy Water now travels in a straight line and deals aura damage
    • Up B goes up much higher but only deals a single hit and is much weaker
Vol. 1Vol. 2
  • Challenger Pack 1: Joker (76)
  • Challenger Pack 2: Hero (77)
  • Challenger Pack 3: Crash Bandicoot (78)
  • Challenger Pack 4: Estelle Bright (79)
  • Challenger Pack 5: Team NEO GEO (80-82)
    • 80. Terry Bogard
    • 81. Iori Yagami
    • 82. Nakoruru
  • Challenger Pack 6: Steve (83)
  • Challenger Pack 7: Chun-Li (84)
  • Challenger Pack 8: Dr. Eggman (85)
  • Challenger Pack 9: Sephiroth (86)
  • Challenger Pack 10: Ring Fit Trainee (87)
  • Challenger Pack 11: Kazuya Mishima (88)
  • Challenger Pack 12: Sora (89)
 
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Pupp135

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I‘ll just list the newcomers for now (I can put use roster maker later, so it looks prettier)
Base Game
:ultinkling::ultridley::ultsimon::ultisabelle::ultkrool::ultincineroar::ultpiranha:Monster Hunter, Lloyd Irving, Isaac, Toad, Bandana Waddle Dee
:ultdaisy::ultchrom::ultdarksamus::ultken::ultrichter: Alph, Metal Sonic.
(:ultmythra::ultpyra:):ultjoker::ulthero::ultbanjokazooie::ult_terry::ultbyleth::ultminmin:ultsteve:Tidus, Amy:ultkazuya::ultsora:
With the extra development time, there should be enough time to make the strawberry Piranha Plant base game. I put Monster Hunter here as we have Rathalos as a boss, and for Lloyd, he seems easier to add than Kazuya, and he was probably more requested than a Soul Calibur, Dark Souls, or Digimon character.
Issac is here as he seems like a fun character, and he has requests to back him up.
I like Toad more than Waluigi.
I think there’s enough room to sneak in Bandana Waddle Dee.
I feel like Alph is a simple echo addition. I’ll also sneak in Metal Sonic. I had Toadette here, but I reread the rules, so she had to be excluded.
For the fighter’s pass, I’ll replace Sephiroth with Tidus as I prefer the latter.
Given that the Rex Mii was added early on, I’m fine with making Mythra and Pyra CP1, and leaving everything else the same.
This is an incredibly hot take, but I think Amy would be more fun to play as than Tails or Eggman.
 
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Oracle Link

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UltimateEcho Fighters
64. Inkling
65. Ridley
66. King K.rool
67. Simon
68. Tom Nook
69. Bandana Waddle Dee
70. Skull Kid
71. Daruk
72. Toad
73. Pyra
74. Min Min
75. Banjo Kazooie
4ε. Dark Samus
13ε. Daisy
21ε. Lucina
28ε. Dark Pit
36ε. Dixie Kong
38ε. Tails
17ε. Impa (Skyward Sword)
27ε. Morpho Knight
60ε. Ken
10/37ε. Paula

I wont repeat Changes that were Already mentioned so:

Toon Link:
  • Now uses His Mirror shield
  • Uses the skull hammer as his down smash
  • Can shoot beams, and jump attack like champion link
  • Up smash, Down air and forward smash now have their properties swapped with champion link

- During the dlc Toon link gets 2 new alts based on "toy" Link one with the la colors and one with nes zelda colors!
 

Lokeefe

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My idea for a extended roster for ultimate with one extra year

The Newcomers
64- Inkling
65- Simon Belmont
66- Ridley
67- King K Rool
68- Bandanna Dee
69 - Paper Mario
70- Ashley
71-Skull Kid
72- Min Min
73- Incineroar
74- Sheriff
75- Geno

Explanation for some of the choices.

Sheriff - One of the last big retro reps that seems like a Sakurai idea and replaces piranha plant as the Surprise pick.

Paper Mario - The reason he is here over other Mario characters like waluigi or Toad is because he brings something not fully represented in Smash yet.

Geno - He would be the last reveal for the base game. A very wanted character like K Rool and Ridley since brawl and probably got a lot of Votes in the ballot.




Echo fighters
10E - Ninten
13E - Daisy
25E - Chrom
38E - Metal Sonic

Fighters Pass Vol 1

Joker
Banjo Kazooie
Pyra and Mythra
Terry
Byleth

Fighters Pass Vol 2

Ring fit trainer
Porky Minch
Dr Eggman
Rayman
Erdrick
Master Cheif
 
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Perkilator

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Decided to do another redesign, this time with my own redesign of every game's roster. I know, this breaks one of my rules of "no changing the previous games' veterans", but I mostly just wanted to make an alternate version.
Luigi
Mario​
Donkey Kong​
Link​
Samus​
Captain Falcon
Ness
Yoshi​
Kirby​
Fox​
Pikachu​
Meowth
Mushroom Kingdom​
Kongo Jungle​
Hyrule Castle​
Planet Zebes​
Super Happy Tree​
Green Greens​
Great Fox​
Pallet Town​
Magicant
Mute City SNES
Duel Zone
Meta Crystal
Final Destinarion
Mario​
Luigi
Peach​
Bowser​
Donkey Kong​
Link​
Zelda / Sheik​
Ganondorf
Samus​
Yoshi​
Kirby​
Fox​
Falco
Pikachu​
Meowth
Mewtwo
Ness​
Captain Falcon​
Ice Climbers​
Marth
Mr. Game & Watch
RANDOM​
Bob-omb Battlefield​
Luigi Raceway
Peach's Castle​
Bowser's Castle​
Kongo Falls​
Great Bay​
Hyrule Temple​
Gerudo Valley
Brinstar​
Yoshi's Story​
Fountain of Dreams​
Corneria​
Venom
Pokémon Stadium​
Sprout Tower
Cerulean Cave
Onett​
Big Blue​
Condor's Peak​
Dragon's Table
Flat Zone
Battlefield
Final Destination
Meta Crystal (64)
Mushroom Kingdom (64)
Kongo Jungle (64)
Hyrule Castle (64)
Planet Zebes (64)
Super Happy Tree (64)
Green Greens (64)
Great Fox (64)
Pallet Town (64)
Mario​
Luigi
Peach​
Bowser​
Yoshi​
Wario​
Donkey Kong​
Diddy Kong​
Dixie Kong
Link​
Zelda / Sheik​
Ganondorf
Tetra
Samus / Zero Suit Samus​
Kirby​
Meta Knight​
King Dedede​
Fox​
Falco
Wolf
Pikachu​
Meowth
Mewtwo
Pokémon Trainer (Totodile, Grovyle, Charizard)​
Lucario
Ness
Lucas​
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers​
Marth
Ike​
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit​
Olimar​
R.O.B.
Snake​
Sonic
RANDOM​
Battlefield​
Final Destination​
Delfino Plaza​
Mushroomy Kingdom​
Luigi's Mansion
Waluigi Pinball​
Bramble Blast​
25m
Bridge of Eldin​
Pirate Ship
Norfair​
Frigate Orpheon​
Yoshi's Island​
Halberd​
Rainbow Route
Lylat Cruise​
Pokémon Stadium 2​
Spear Pillar
Empire Pork Building​
Casino Palace​
Summit​
Castle Siege​
Flat Zone 2
Skyworld​
WarioWare, Inc.​
Forest of Hope​
Gyromite
Smashville​
PictoChat​
Shadow Moses Island​
Green Hill Zone
Bob-omb Battlefield​
Kongo Falls
Temple​
Brinstar​
Yoshi's Story
Fountain of Dreams
Corneria​
Pokémon Stadium
Onett​
Big Blue
Mario​
Luigi​
Peach​
Bowser​
Bowser Jr.
Paper Mario​
Rosalina & Luma​
Yoshi​
Wario
Donkey Kong​
Diddy Kong​
Link​
Zelda​
Sheik​
Ganondorf
Tetra​
Ghirahim​
Samus​
Zero Suit Samus​
Kirby​
Meta Knight​
King Dedede​
Fox​
Falco
Pikachu​
Meowth
Mewtwo (DLC)​
Lucario​
Greninja​
Ness
Lucas (DLC)​
Captain Falcon​
Marth​
Ike​
Robin​
Azura (DLC)​
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit​
Palutena​
Olimar​
Isabelle​
Wii Fit Trainer​
Little Mac​
Shulk​
Takamaru
Duck Hunt
Sonic​
Mega Man​
PAC-MAN​
Mii Fighters (Brawler, Swordfighter, Gunner)​
RANDOM​
Dixie Kong
Dark Pit
Alph
Rayman (DLC)​
Ryu (DLC)​
Cloud (DLC)​
Bayonetta (DLC)​
Inkling (DLC)​
<-- Extra Fighters​
  1. Battlefield
  2. Final Destination
  3. Boxing Ring
  4. Wily Castle
  5. Pac-Maze
  6. Suzaku Castle (DLC)
  7. Midgar (DLC)
  8. Umbra Clock Tower (DLC)
Battlefield​
Final Destination​
3D Land​
Golden Plains​
Rainbow Road​
Luiginary Works​
Paper Theater​
Mushroomy Kingdom (Brawl)
Golden Temple​
Kongo Jungle (64)
Spirit Train​
Gerudo Valley (Melee)
Brinstar (Melee)​
Yoshi's New Island​
Butter Building​
Rainbow Route (Brawl)
Corneria (Melee)​
Unova Pokémon League​
Sprout Tower (Melee)
Magicant (64)
Mute City SNES​
Arena Ferox​
Flat Zone (Melee)
Reset Bomb Forest​
WarioWare, Inc. (Brawl)
Forest of Hope (Brawl)​
Tortimer Island​
Boxing Ring​
Duck Hunt
Living Room​
Find Mii​
Pilotwings​
Tomodachi Life​
Game Boy
Green Hill Zone (Brawl)​
Wily Castle​
Pac-Maze​
Jibberish Jungle (DLC)​
Suzaku Castle (DLC)​
Midgar (DLC)​
Opera House (DLC)​
Umbra Clock Tower (DLC)​
Battlefield​
Big Battlefield​
Final Destination​
Mushroom Kingdom U​
World Bowser
Comet Observatory​
Cloudtop Cruise​
Coconut Mall
Delfino Plaza (Brawl)​
Luigi's Mansion (Brawl)
Grassland Groove​
25m (Brawl)
Skyloft​
Hyrule Castle (64)​
Pirate Ship (Brawl)
Pyrosphere​
Planet Zebes (64)
Frigate Orpheon (Brawl)​
Yoshi's Island (Brawl)​
Quilty Square​
Halberd (Brawl)​
Orbital Gate Assault​
Great Fox (64)
Lylat Cruise (Brawl)​
Kalos Pokémon League​
Pokémon Stadium 2 (Brawl)
Onett (Melee)​
Empire Pork Building (Brawl) (DLC)​
Big Blue (Melee)​
Casino Palace (Brawl)​
Tower of Guidance​
Castle Siege (Brawl)​
Flat Zone 2 (Brawl)
Palutena's Temple​
Kid Icarus NES
Skyworld (Brawl)​
Gamer​
Golden Pyramid
Garden of Hope​
Smashville (Brawl)​
Wii Fit Studio​
Boxing Ring​
Gaur Plain​
Castle Town
Wrecking Crew
Wuhu Island​
Steel Diver​
Windy Hill Zone​
Wily Castle​
Pac-Maze​
Fiesta de los Muertos (DLC)​
Suzaku Castle (DLC)​
Midgar (DLC)​
Umbra Clock Tower (DLC)​
Inkopolis Plaza (DLC)​
RANDOM​
64MeleeBrawlfor 3DS / Wii UNewcomers
  • 1. Mario
  • 2. Donkey Kong
  • 3. Link
  • 4. Samus
    • 4ε. Dark Samus
  • 5. Yoshi
  • 6. Kirby
  • 7. Fox
  • 8. Pikachu
  • 9. Luigi
  • 10. Ness
  • 11. Captain Falcon
  • 12. Meowth
  • 13. Peach
    • 13ε. Daisy
  • 14. Bowser
  • 15. Ice Climbers
  • 16. Sheik
    • 16ε. Yiga
  • 17. Zelda
  • 18. Ganondorf
  • 19. Falco
  • 20. Mewtwo
  • 21. Marth
    • 21ε. Celica
  • 22. Mr. Game & Watch
  • 23. Meta Knight
  • 24. Pit
    • 24ε. Dark Pit
  • 25. Zero Suit Samus
  • 26. Wario
  • 27. Snake
  • 28. Ike
  • Pokémon Trainer
    • 29. Totodile
    • 30. Grovyle
    • 31. Charizard
  • 32. Diddy Kong
    • 32ε. Dixie Kong
  • 33. Lucas
  • 34. Sonic
  • 35. King Dedede
  • 36. Olimar
    • 36ε. Alph
  • 37. Tetra
  • 38. Wolf
  • 39. Lucario
  • 40. R.O.B.
  • 41. Isabelle
  • 42. Mega Man
  • 43. Wii Fit Trainer
  • 44. Rosalina & Luma
  • 45. Paper Mario
  • 46. Little Mac
    • 46ε. Glass Joe
  • 47. Ghirahim
  • 48. Greninja
  • Mii Fighters
    • 49. Brawler
    • 50. Swordfighter
    • 51. Gunner
  • 52. Palutena
  • 53. PAC-MAN
  • 54. Robin
  • 55. Shulk
  • 56. Bowser Jr.
  • 57. Takamaru
  • 58. Duck Hunt
  • 59. Rayman
  • 60. Ryu
    • 60ε. Ken
  • 61. Cloud
  • 62. Azura
  • 63. Bayonetta
    • 63ε. Jeanne
  • 64. Inkling
  • 65. Simon
  • 66. Alucard
  • 67. Ridley
  • 68. King K. Rool
  • 69. Revali
  • 70. Incineroar
  • 71-72. Pyra / Mythra
  • 73. Bandana Waddle Dee
  • 74. Min Min
  • 75. Banjo & Kazooie
Vol. 1Vol. 2
  • 76. Joker
  • 77. Hero
  • 78. Crash Bandicoot
  • 80. Estelle Bright
  • Team NEO GEO
    • 80. Terry Bogard
    • 81. Iori Yagami
    • 82. Nakoruru
  • 83. Steve
  • 84. Chun-Li
  • 85. Dr. Eggman
  • 86. Sephiroth
  • 87. Ring Fit Trainee
  • 88. Shantae
  • 89. Kazuya Mishima
  • 90. Sora
  1. Mario
  2. Luigi
  3. Peach
  4. Daisy
  5. Bowser
  6. Rosalina & Luma
  7. Paper Mario
  8. Bowser Jr.
  9. Yoshi
  10. Wario
  11. Donkey Kong
  12. Diddy Kong
  13. Dixie Kong
  14. King K. Rool
  15. Link
  16. Zelda
  17. Sheik
  18. Yiga
  19. Ganondorf
  20. Tetra
  21. Ghirahim
  22. Revali
  23. Samus
  24. Dark Samus
  25. Zero Suit Samus
  26. Ridley
  27. Kirby
  28. Meta Knight
  29. King Dedede
  30. Bandana Waddle Dee
  31. Fox
  32. Falco
  33. Wolf
  34. Pikachu
  35. Meowth
  36. Mewtwo
  37. Pokémon Trainer
  38. Lucario
  39. Greninja
  40. Incineroar
  41. Ness
  42. Lucas
  43. Captain Falcon
  44. Ice Climbers
  45. Marth
  46. Celica
  47. Ike
  48. Robin
  49. Azura
  50. Mr. Game & Watch
  51. Pit
  52. Dark Pit
  53. Palutena
  54. Olimar
  55. Alph
  56. R.O.B.
  57. Isabelle
  58. Wii Fit Trainer
  59. Little Mac
  60. Glass Joe
  61. Shulk
  62. Pyra / Mythra
  63. Takamaru
  64. Duck Hunt
  65. Inkling
  66. Min Min
  67. Ring Fit Trainee
  68. Snake
  69. Sonic
  70. Dr. Eggman
  71. Mega Man
  72. PAC-MAN
  73. Rayman
  74. Ryu
  75. Ken
  76. Chun-Li
  77. Cloud
  78. Sephiroth
  79. Bayonetta
  80. Jeanne
  81. Simon
  82. Alucard
  83. Banjo & Kazooie
  84. Joker
  85. Hero
  86. Crash
  87. Estelle
  88. Terry
  89. Iori
  90. Nakoruru
  91. Steve
  92. Shantae
  93. Kazuya
  94. Sora
  95. Mii Fighters
  96. RANDOM
Normal64MeleeBrawl3DSWii U
  1. Battlefield
  2. Big Battlefield
  3. Final Destination
  4. Boxing Ring
  5. Wily Castle
  6. Pac-Maze
  7. Suzaku Castle
  8. Midgar
  9. Umbra Clock Tower
  10. New Donk City Hall
  11. Great Plateau Tower
  12. Iki Town
  13. Cloud Sea of Alrest
  14. Spring Stadium
  15. Dracula's Castle
  16. Spiral Mountain
  17. Mementos (DLC)
  18. Yggdrasil's Altar (DLC)
  19. N. Sanity Beach (DLC)
  20. Arseille (DLC)
  21. King of Fighters Stadium (DLC)
  22. New Seed (DLC)
  23. Volcanic Rim (DLC)
  24. Egg Planet Park (DLC)
  25. Northern Cave (DLC)
  26. Ring Fit Adventure (DLC)
  27. Burning Town (DLC)
  28. Infinite Azure (DLC)
  29. Dive to the Heart (DLC)
  30. Custom stages
  1. Duel Zone
  2. Big Duel Zone
  3. Final Destination (64)
  4. Mushroom Kingdom
  5. Kongo Jungle
  6. Hyrule Castle
  7. Planet Zebes
  8. Super Happy Tree
  9. Green Greens
  10. Great Fox
  11. Pallet Town
  12. Magicant
  13. Mute City SNES
  14. Meta Crystal
  1. Battlefield (Melee)
  2. Big Battlefield (Melee)
  3. Final Destination (Melee)
  4. Bob-omb Battlefield
  5. Peach's Castle
  6. Bowser's Castle
  7. Kongo Falls
  8. Great Bay
  9. Temple
  10. Brinstar
  11. Yoshi's Story
  12. Fountain of Dreams
  13. Corneria
  14. Pokémon Stadium
  15. Onett
  16. Big Blue
  17. Condor's Peak
  18. Luigi Raceway
  19. Gerudo Valley
  20. Venom
  21. Sprout Tower
  22. Cerulean Cave
  23. Dragon's Table
  24. Flat Zone
  1. Battlefield (Brawl)
  2. Big Battlefield (Brawl)
  3. Final Destination (Brawl)
  4. Delfino Plaza
  5. Mushroomy Kingdom
  6. Waluigi Pinball
  7. Bramble Blast
  8. Bridge of Eldin
  9. Norfair
  10. Frigate Orpheon
  11. Yoshi's Island
  12. Halberd
  13. Lylat Cruise
  14. Pokémon Stadium 2
  15. Empire Pork Buildin
  16. Casino Palace
  17. Summit
  18. Castle Siege
  19. Skyworld
  20. WarioWare, Inc.
  21. Forest of Hope
  22. Smashville
  23. PictoChat
  24. Shadow Moses Island
  25. Luigi's Mansion
  26. 25m
  27. Pirate Ship
  28. Rainbow Route
  29. Spear Pillar
  30. Gyromite
  31. Green Hill Zone
  1. Battlefield (3DS)
  2. Big Battlefield (3DS)
  3. Final Destination (3DS)
  4. 3D Land
  5. Golden Plains
  6. Rainbow Road
  7. Luiginary Works
  8. Paper Theater
  9. Golden Temple
  10. Spirit Train
  11. Yoshi's New Island
  12. Butter Building
  13. Unova Pokémon League
  14. Arena Ferox
  15. Reset Bomb Forest
  16. Tortimer Island
  17. Duck Hunt
  18. Living Room
  19. Find Mii
  20. Tomodachi Life
  21. Pilotwings
  22. Game Boy
  23. Opera House
  1. Battlefield (Wii U)
  2. Big Battlefield (Wii U)
  3. Final Destination (Wii U)
  4. Mushroom Kingdom U
  5. World Bowser
  6. Comet Observatory
  7. Cloudtop Cruise
  8. Coconut Mall
  9. Grassland Groove
  10. Skyloft
  11. Pyrosphere
  12. Quilty Square
  13. Orbital Gate Assault
  14. Kalos Pokémon League
  15. Tower of Guidance
  16. Palutena's Temple
  17. Kid Icarus NES
  18. Gamer
  19. Golden Pyramid
  20. Garden of Hope
  21. Wii Fit Studio
  22. Gaur Plain
  23. Castle Town
  24. Wrecking Crew
  25. Wuhu Island
  26. Steel Diver
  27. Windy Hill Zone
  28. Jibberish Jungle
  29. Fiesta de los Muertos
  30. Inkopolis Plaza
 
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nirvanafan

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Base Game (Unique)
:ultinkling: :ultridley: :ultbanjokazooie: (Poppi)(Nooklings) :ultpiranha:

Base Game (Echoes)
(Dark Samus)(Octoling)(Flygon)(Tails) :ultken:

DLC Bonus (Twintelle)

Fighter Pass 1
:ultjoker: :ultsimon: (Crash Bandicoot)(Ryu Hayabusa) :ultbylethf:

Fighter Pass 2
(Sami)(2B) :ultsephiroth:(Phantom Ganon)(Yoshimitsu)(Master Chief)
 

Kirbeh

Smash Champion
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Location
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SW-7469-4510-7312
Existing cast of newcomers/echoes remain as is.

#s 70-75 go to :ultpiranha::ultpyra::ultmythra::ultminmin:ult_terry::ultbanjokazooie: who are now base game.

:ultalph: gets in as an echo as originally intended. Shadow and Ms. Pac-Man also get added for a total of 10 echo fighters.

The DLC fighters who weren't moved to base game remain as DLC. I don't really care what order/which pass the new arrangements are.

This does leave 5 slots to fill though, which will be taken by some of the "runner up" characters that wound up getting Mii'd; Doom Slayer, Dante, Shantae, Bomberman and Travis.
 

Mamboo07

Smash Hero
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Messages
9,547
Location
Agartha, Hollow Earth
Base Game
  • Inkling
  • Ridley
  • Simon
  • King K. Rool
  • Bandana Dee
  • Kommo-o
Echo Fighters
  1. King D-Mind (:ultkingdedede:)
  2. Ritcher (:ultsimon:)
  3. Medusa (:ultpalutena:)
  4. Dark Samus (:ultsamus:)
  5. Octoling (:ultinkling:)
  6. Metal Sonic (:ultsonic:)
  7. Dry Bowser (:ultbowser:)
  8. Demise (:ultganondorf:)
  9. Raichu (:ultpikachu:)
  10. Blood Falcon (:ultfalcon:)
Fighter Pass 1
  • Poochy (Free DLC like Piranha Plant)
  • Joker
  • Hero
  • Banjo-Kazooie
  • Terry
  • Byleth
Fighter Pass 2
  • Helix
  • Dr. Eggman
  • Sephiroth
  • Rex & Pyra/Mythra
  • Centipede (Atari)
  • Sora
 

BritishGuy54

Smash Ace
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Messages
752
I think Ultimate’s newcomers in the base game are fine, though I would change the Fighters Pass order only.

70. Piranha Plant

71. Min Min
72. Hero
73. Steve
74/75. Pyra/Mythra
76. Kazuya

77. Joker
78. Banjo & Kazooie
79. Sephiroth
80. Byleth
81. Terry
82. Sora
 
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