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[andimidna]

We should totally rerate Dark Pit soon.

He's just the new Tom Nook, but I guess it could be worth it. It's probably bound to happen now that the release date is October.

 

[Starbound]

Pac-Man and Mr. Game and Watch are confirmed.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Pac-Man and Mr. Game and Watch are confirmed.

Woo, Pac-Man! It's not the most exciting thing ever, but it's also great to see Game and Watch return.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Except Dark Pit seems to be directly hinted at something, unlike Tom Nook.

 

[Groose]

DAY 246 BEGINS

"COOLDOWN BEFORE SATISFACTION"

Our satisfaction ratings will not begin until roughly 7PM EST on Wednesday. This is due to announcements like Pac-Man that we haven't seen, and the fact that I will be going to bed after the Q+A ends. I think this cooldown day should serve us well; when we return, we will start with newcomer satisfaction and then move from there.

Until later,

waka waka waka waka waka​

 

[Glaciacott]

We're almost at half of the top ten confirmed.

Woo!

 

[Deleted member]

Cooldown Day has been added to the Directory.
Best that we have this.

But wow. If he isn't confirmed tonight, Shulk is rank 1 in chance!

 

[Burigu]

Except Dark Pit seems to be directly hinted at something, unlike Tom Nook.

Mmmmm a full appearance, I don't see that as a hint, I am not discarting him but, that was probably a nod to KIU and nothing more, don't rush to conclusion to fast or ask for a rate as soon as posible remember the HYPE caused Sceptile to become OVERATED, once things cool down, people saw they exagered the Sceptile rate.

Are people expecting Tom Nook just because he appeared at AMIIBO? the figurines aren't exclusive for smash, I don't take that as a hint

 

[BluePikmin11]

Mmmmm a full appearance, I don't see that as a hint, I am not discarting him but, that was probably a nod to KIU and nothing more, don't rush to conclusion to fast or ask for a rate as soon as posible remember the HYPE caused Sceptile to become OVERATED, once things cool down, people saw they exagered the Sceptile rate

We'll see then.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

So, Pac-Man's out the way, and Smash 3DS is conspicuously AFTER the Tokyo Game Show... Oh and Sakurai says he wants to make this the best character game ever? Or something to those effects, anyways...

I wonder what gelatinous character, from Japans favourite video-game franchise, could be effected by this loss of competition.

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly, with the Gematsu leak heavily benefiting from today (Palutena, Pac-Man, and specific Mii Fighters), the last beneficiaries (Shulk, Chrom, and Chorus Men) all have their chances increased in my eyes.
I have to lower the scores for King K. Rool, Takamaru, and a couple of others. There might not be enough room for more newcomers.

 

[Groose]

Oh, and a reminder: we rate the chances of characters to appear in the initial release. DLC doesn't count; even though Gematsu said DLC is likely, we can't factor that into our ratings. Just something I remembered.

 

[andimidna]

Poooop. I missed Pac-Man. Where was he confirmed?
(sorry for off-topic-ness but this is kind of a big deal)

 

[Burigu]

Poooop. I missed Pac-Man. Where was he confirmed?
(sorry for off-topic-ness but this is kind of a big deal)

There is no video of pics of him Sakurai mentioned it in the Q&A table tonight or something of those lines

 

[Glaciacott]

Kind of like Wii Fit Trainer last year. They'll probably upload the character page and reveal trailer sometime tonight.

 

[Xenigma]

Considering all the reveals adhere in some form to the Gematsu leak and Sakurai even mentioned in the Q&A that they had blatantly reserved a character slot for a Pokemon from X and Y before settling on Greninja, any rerates are about to get rather awkward unless DLC is proven to be a thing. Not sure how to feel at the moment but Chrom, Shulk, and Chorus Men are about to get some serious rating jumps.

 

[Glaciacott]

My real worry is that if that's the entire newcomer roster then not only does Ridley die, but a second DK newcomer doesn't happen. And that'd just be a huge bummer.

 

[Hippopotasauce]

Pac Man could end up the Pic of the Day

Edit: Alright I guess nevermind

 

[Deleted member]

Honestly... I might have to give Shulk, Chrom, and Chorus Men a serious boost in ratings. I think that I will give them all a 95% in chance now. The Gematsu leak is proving itself to be real.
Other characters will have to get a significant drop. I will put King K. Rool at 50%, Takamaru at 40%, Dixie Kong at 30%, Isaac at 30%, and Bandana Dee at 25%. The Gematsu leak doesn't kill the chances of other characters, but it severely impairs them.

 

[Erimir]

So, Pac-Man's out the way, and Smash 3DS is conspicuously AFTER the Tokyo Game Show... Oh and Sakurai says he wants to make this the best character game ever? Or something to those effects, anyways...

I wonder what gelatinous character, from Japans favourite video-game franchise, could be effected by this loss of competition.

How is Pac-Man being confirmed a "loss of competition"?

Isn't it just as easily (more easily, in fact) described as a victory of the competition?

 

[a Link to the Forums]

Pac-Man officially in Smash guys!

 

[Plain Yogurt]

Predictions:
- We will see a non-Gematsu newcomer character revealed.
- The following veterans will appear: Ice Climbers, Wario, Meta Knight, one of the Mother kids, and MAYBE C. Falcon.
- Ridley will be officially disconfirmed.
- Pac-Man will be revealed.
- We'll get our first look at the connectivity between the two versions.
- An official release date for the 3DS version will be announced.

Geez 2/6...well, whatever. I am baffled at no vet reveals though. Like, how much longer are we pretending Wario isn't in the game?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I never saw much in Pac-man as a fighter, but after seeing his trailer, I'm overjoyed to be wrong.

I mean, Pac-man, Mario, Sonic AND Mega Man duking it out in one game. That's pretty darn amazing. It was the only real appeal I had in Pac-man for most of the time up until I saw his trailer. He looks like he'll be incredibly fun to play as.

Well, this aside, K. Rool is pretty much the only newcomer I have much hope for at this point, outside of the yet to be confirmed ones mentioned in the Sal leak, that is.

 

[Erimir]

So that makes it Little Mac, Palutena, Pac-Man and Mii being confirmed out of our Top Ten. 4/10 so far... not bad.

This makes the Gematsu leak seem a looooot more likely. That said, Shulk and the Chorus Men are the boldest predictions it made, so if it's gonna get disproven it's probably by one of those two. I don't really want Chrom, and I definitely don't want the Chorus Men... Shulk is cool though.

Sakurai, if you put in Ridley and K Rool, maybe Isaac, all will be forgiven...

I'm hoping tomorrow's PotD is Mr. Game & Watch, because it would be kinda sad not to get any veterans, and have him shown, and then they leave us hanging as to his fate. Cutting Mr. Game & Watch when he's such an easy character to design would seem silly.

 

[andimidna]

We can also confirm the concept of non-GA Pac-Man, right?

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

I don't know whether I should feel like Shulk gained probability due to the Gematsu leak, or whether he lost probability after failing to be shown alongside X....

 

[Glaciacott]

I don't know whether I should feel like Shulk gained probability due to the Gematsu leak, or whether he lost probability after failing to be shown alongside X....

... for now. Keep in mind, he could pop up in the game later.

X being confirmed to be a Xenoblade Chronicles game actually made me feel pretty secure about him. Unsure so far about who between Chrom or Shulk will claim the title of Most Likely now.

 

[andimidna]

We should also re-rate Snake after E3...

 

[FalKoopa]

So, they went with Pac-Man's classic look after all. Non-Ghostly Adventures design is confirmed.

 

[a Link to the Forums]

Geez 2/6...well, whatever. I am baffled at no vet reveals though. Like, how much longer are we pretending Wario isn't in the game?

We got Game & Watch.

EDIT: Actually, we don't know. He never appeared on the website.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

How is Pac-Man being confirmed a "loss of competition"?

Isn't it just as easily (more easily, in fact) described as a victory of the competition?

Slime was never competing for a third party slot, as Pac-Man is second party to this game, and was always insanely likely. What Slime was competing for was the big reveal, and with Pac-Man out the way and more than 4 months to go, that cuts his big third party competition down by a long way!

If Pac-Man wasn't revealed yet, or the game launched sooner than later, then this would be the big last minute 3rd party reveal... as is there's still space for one of those... if we get one or not is the question... and since Nintendo themselves won't be attending TGS it's still not exactly likely... but clearly they're holding big reveals back for the pre-release Smash Direct.. just look at the absence of Ridley! So one has to question if a third party is on that list of big reveals, and if so, who?

 

[Erimir]

Slime was never competing for a third party slot, as Pac-Man is second party to this game, and was always insanely likely. What Slime was competing for was the big reveal, and with Pac-Man out the way and more than 4 months to go, that cuts his big third party competition down by a long way!

My original point still stands though...

Slime's not in a better position than before. The big E3 reveal has been taken... which is one less opportunity for him.

If Pac-Man was a foregone conclusion, then at best this is neutral, because it shouldn't change your thinking from before Pac-Man was revealed.

Personally, I don't see how it affects things much at all, but if it does, it hurts. If Slime is a 3rd party worth including, he'd be a character worth showing at E3, IMO.

But I admit that I tend to think that if a 3rd-party isn't a big enough announcement to be part of the E3 hype train, they probably shouldn't (and won't) be included.

If Pac-Man wasn't revealed yet, or the game launched sooner than later, then this would be the big last minute 3rd party reveal... as is there's still space for one of those... if we get one or not is the question... and since Nintendo themselves won't be attending TGS it's still not exactly likely... but clearly they're holding big reveals back for the pre-release Smash Direct.. just look at the absence of Ridley! So one has to question if a third party is on that list of big reveals, and if so, who?

I dunno... Don't get your hopes up. You're trying to say that somehow the delay improves Slime's chances by improving their options for timing to reveal him.

But they didn't plan on a delay. And the characters they revealed made sense for E3.

You're basically saying that because of the delay, they pushed Pac-Man's reveal up to E3 or something, because otherwise they would've held him for another month or two, for right before release, and then somehow we might've seen Slime earlier? So because of the delay, they moved Pac-Man up to E3 and now Slime has the chance to be included in the next Smash-related Direct? I don't really know how it makes sense.

I wouldn't read anything into the delay for anyone's chances. Slime has a slim chance, and E3 going down the way it was expected to doesn't really change things...

 

[Leafeon523]

Slime was never competing for a third party slot, as Pac-Man is second party to this game, and was always insanely likely. What Slime was competing for was the big reveal, and with Pac-Man out the way and more than 4 months to go, that cuts his big third party competition down by a long way!

If Pac-Man wasn't revealed yet, or the game launched sooner than later, then this would be the big last minute 3rd party reveal... as is there's still space for one of those... if we get one or not is the question... and since Nintendo themselves won't be attending TGS it's still not exactly likely... but clearly they're holding big reveals back for the pre-release Smash Direct.. just look at the absence of Ridley! So one has to question if a third party is on that list of big reveals, and if so, who?

I like your optimism. Never lose hype hope!

 

[Pacack]

So, they went with Pac-Man's classic look after all. Non-Ghostly Adventures design is confirmed.

I knew that concept was a good one!

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Miis don't have their own iconn using the Smash Bros symbol instead, which is odd.

Miis always fit the situation. In Mario Kart, they are Kart racers. In sports events, they use sports. In this fighting game, they are fighters. It only makes sense.

 

[Deleted member]

I don't know whether I should feel like Shulk gained probability due to the Gematsu leak, or whether he lost probability after failing to be shown alongside X....

I think that Shulk absolutely gained more than lost. Although he wasn't shown alongside X, the game is now confirmed to be a sequel to Xenoblade Chronicles, meaning that he comes from an established series now.

Although I predicted Shulk to get confirmed, the other three characters were definitely higher priority than him. Miis had to coincide with Tomodachi Life like Villager did with New Leaf last year, Palutena was a heavily requested character in the west (and this is a western event), and Pac-Man had to be revealed since this is E3.

I'm thinking that Shulk, Chrom, and Chorus Men are going to spike up to the 80s or 90s, but we shouldn't re-rate them immediately.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I don't know whether I should feel like Shulk gained probability due to the Gematsu leak, or whether he lost probability after failing to be shown alongside X....

I think X came up too late to affect Smash's development that much honestly. It's coming out even after Smash, isn't it? Unless Sakurai has as much contact with Monolith as he has with Intelligent Systems and Game Freak I find it unlikely we'll see any of it in Smash.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Mii Fighter- I can't believe Sakurai made Miis a unique and fun character. I always knew they were likely, but I never expected them to be as creative as this! Great job Sakurai, you impressed mii!

Palutena- Probably my least hyped out of the 3. She was the most likely newcomer, and I knew she was getting in, but I never really wanted her. But after that trailer, I have to say that she looks really fun! Here moves seem pretty cool!

Pac-Man- My most hyped out of the 3! I was worried beyond belief that Sakurai was going to screw this up, and give him the modern design. But I am extremely glad to see that he has classic influence in every move, and that he retains his Pac-Man World appearance.

If I get K. Rool, Ridley, Ghirahim, and Mewtwo, this roster is officially awesome!

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Right Now, to complete the roster, I think that:
The rest of Brawl's vets aside from Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur need in.
Takamaru and King K. Rool need in. Isaac would be cool but not until after these two.
Mewtwo needs to return.
The second half of the Gematsu leak, Chrom, Shulk, and Chorus Men need in.

Then the game will offiicially be perfect to me.

Sakurai had me sold with Villager and Mega Man. He clenched that sale with Little Mac. Now, with Mii, Palutena, and Pac-Man, I'm on the verge of just throwing my money at him.

 

[YT123]

Unsure so far about who between Chrom or Shulk will claim the title of Most Likely now.

Probably Shulk as there are still people who think that Robin will take Chroms slot.