random directional inversion and input lag

[Oddvarr]

Occasionally when using directional attacks the attack will be executed in the opposite direction as input.

 

[Narpas_sword]

Details son =/

System?
controller state?
build?
mods?
frequency of occurrence?
tested with various controllers?
recreate in various situations?

This is bug reporting, not 'i has a thing go wrong'

 

[Oddvarr]

Yea, rookie mistake. Wii, full set not WiFi, 3.02, no mods, GameCube sticks, old but still highly responsive. Occurs once in approximately every 15-25 directional inputs (mostly smash attacks and forward B). Tested with all four controllers and used two different ports. Mode, stage, and character inconsequential.

 

[Oddvarr]

As in happens with all characters

 

[Oddvarr]

My bad, I don't work in QA

 

[QuickRat]

It's wierd... I have the same problem, but I thought it was because of using a wireless 360 pad with Dolphin version (I have to buy a USB adaptor for GC pads). But I see it could be a common bug, so here I go:

- Dolphin's last version (4.0.2)
- Wireless 360 pad (official Bluetooth adaptor)
- Last version of Project M (3.02) without any other mod attached
- It was the hackless version (Full Set)
- I wouldn't say it is affected by the character or the stage I selected
- The frequency is kind of random... I'd say it happens each two matches
- I thought it was the 360 pad (could be not exactly 'compatible'), but I think it's something else because Oddvarr says it happens with a GC controller in a Wii
- I built Project M in a Brawl ISO to avoid a common sound bug, maybe that gives me this problem

So, Oddvarr, I think it's important if you confirm this:

1) You are using an official, wired GC controller, not a WaveBird or any 3rd party pad
2) You are using original Brawl running on a Wii and just a SD patch to start Project M

 

[Oddvarr]

Yes, official wired controllers. Also yes simple brawl sd patch. As earlier stated, basic hackless fullset no mods.

 

[Y-L]

It's wierd... I have the same problem, but I thought it was because of using a wireless 360 pad with Dolphin version (I have to buy a USB adaptor for GC pads). But I see it could be a common bug, so here I go:

- Dolphin's last version (4.0.2)
- Wireless 360 pad (official Bluetooth adaptor)
- Last version of Project M (3.02) without any other mod attached
- It was the hackless version (Full Set)
- I wouldn't say it is affected by the character or the stage I selected
- The frequency is kind of random... I'd say it happens each two matches
- I thought it was the 360 pad (could be not exactly 'compatible'), but I think it's something else because Oddvarr says it happens with a GC controller in a Wii
- I built Project M in a Brawl ISO to avoid a common sound bug, maybe that gives me this problem

So, Oddvarr, I think it's important if you confirm this:

1) You are using an official, wired GC controller, not a WaveBird or any 3rd party pad
2) You are using original Brawl running on a Wii and just a SD patch to start Project M

For Dolphin try setting radius on both sticks to 100 and dead zone of 5 on main stick 15 on c stick.

 

[QuickRat]

For Dolphin try setting radius on both sticks to 100 and dead zone of 5 on main stick 15 on c stick.

I think it worked... But I can't tell until I play more hours and see if the problem is solved. Anyway, Oddvarr is playing on a Wii, so he cannot solve this...

Thanks a lot, anyway

 

[Narpas_sword]

you have to figure out how to recreate this in a controlled environment. Ie not the middle of a fight where human error could jsut be a thing.

'highly responsive old sticks' could be flickikng past centre, but who knows.

if you can sit for an hour or so, and tilt/smahs each way repetitvely, then it still mucks up it may be a bug.

 

[QuickRat]

I've realized this error appears when I'm performing a side attack and there has been a lag. I have a 5 year-old CPU and a wireless controller, so it's logical there are "lag moments". When there is a slow down for a second (because of some animations or background stuff), I think there is a desync between the stick position and the game itself. Apparently, this "bug" is less common since I changed my stick setup (just as Y-L said). I think it may be that... at least in my case. I don't know how this problem can appear in an actual Wii with a wired pad, sorry.

 

[QuickRat]

Hi again.

I've noticed something interesting. Some joysticks are so used that they cannot be always in a dead zone while in a neutral position. I mean, although the C-stick is apparently, it has some inclination that makes Oddvarr's console render it like . This makes that, when you are making a Smash with , it goes in the other direction because there is a input at the same moment. That could explain why this is a problem in both Wii and Dolphin and why it appears less if you increase dead zones.