Project M Social Thread

[Rikana]

Landing detection is on a whole new level. Its probably the biggest obstacle to fix. If it can't be figured out in the end, they'll compensate by adjusting each attack that is heavily affected by it such as Samus' missile cancels.

 

[Vigilante]

Of course, this compensatory work would slow the project down, so let's shope that is not needed.

 

[curry9186]

I believe it was Falco400 who said they could make landing detection "better" by moving the TopN bone accordingly for each character.

Except that would involve tweaking all the animations for every character so they're trying something else.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

It would have to be done very,very carefully or else you'll get teleports.

 

[Revven]

I didn't say that and no we wouldn't do that because that doesn't work. Work as in it's not very nice and clean at all.

 

[curry9186]

That's why "better" was in quotes. One of the devs said it would be sloppy.

 

[Shenanigans]

I'm surprised that no one has asked about Pit, I wonder what he'll be like with melee physics/tinkering.

 

[C_Ferris32]

All I know is that I was hyped for the patch as soon as I heard that Lucas' DJC was getting fixed in it. But with all the amazing discoveries they're making, now I'm super hyped. Like, 10hype. Maybe even 20hype.

 

[GP&B]

The first represents a code we long thought was impossible, but was addressed by a 1 line code in memory. The code is...

LANDING DETECTION MIRITE?!

Stale Moves Stale Damage Output but not Knockback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9o5_W6hn9k#t=0m10s

Despite being letdown (albeit unsurprised nonetheless by it not being fixed still), the double feature blog is really exciting news. It's awesome to hear just how much more the patch is going to fix up and really add to Project M.

 

[Rikana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6OgCDwvLO8

For those who needs a video.

GoldenHeartNeko:

...Because of the fact that damage was staled, which of course would alter the distance traveled when hit. It's not because of staled KB which isnt in Melee. The difference in distance is because of the staled damage. You know the basics. More %'s = More Distance.

11% in damage makes quite a difference.

If anyone is still having trouble comprehending; only damage scales in Melee. The knockback is affected by the attack's damage.

 

[slimpyman]

double stick di? ill take it..

improved stale moves? ill take it.

all little pieces that fit into the bigger puzzle!

 

[ajajayjay]

the BR has said they want to fix ledge occupancy, so do they also want to "fix" (change back to melee) the speed at which you can act out of a ledge jump? cause in P:M you can ledge jump and wavedash onto the stage, no problem.

@ Rikana, I watched that video, and then you posted it.

 

[Rikana]

I see no problem with ledge jump to waveland on stage.

 

[MonkUnit]

We don't want LO(Ledge Occupany) to be 100% like melee. We want an in between of brawl and melee LO.

 

[ajajayjay]

how about this ledge jump? is that being kept the same, or an in between of this and melee as well?

 

[MonkUnit]

we are keeping brawl ledge jump IASA

 

[standardtoaster]

http://www.livestream.com/stprojectm

streaming ;D

 

[GHNeko]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6OgCDwvLO8

For those who needs a video.



11% in damage makes quite a difference.

If anyone is still having trouble comprehending; only damage scales in Melee. The knockback is affected by the attack's damage.

I DONT EVEN REMEMBER POSTING THAT LOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

God I'm smart.

 

[NeoZ]

If anyone is still having trouble comprehending; only damage scales in Melee. The knockback is affected by the attack's damage.

IIRC knockback is not affected by the attacks damage, but by the percent the character is at when launched, i.e. after the damage is done.
Could someone that knows his way around the game please clarify?

 

[GP&B]

The KB dealt by a move in Melee does not stale. The damage % given by the hit, however, does. Both decay in Brawl. IIRC, it has to do with the fact that damage % and KB are tied to each other, not that stale moves reduction dictates it.

 

[shanus]

Ledge occupancy we want a hybrid of melee and brawl. We aren't going to alter ledgejump.

 

[jalued]

great finds, the funny thing is that we didnt guess any of them...

exactly how fast are you progressing atm? it seemes to be at a phonomenal rate :D

 

[Slashy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO8t257KAk8 When was this stage released

 

[Revven]

That's the normal unedited Project M version.

 

[Slashy]

Was that stage made public though?

Can you double stick DI if you have the second stick set to something other than smashes?

 

[Revven]

If you bothered to look on kitty-corp, you would find it Slashy.

 

[Shadic]

That's the normal, released one. Not the edited Project M version.

Fixed for some clarity.

 

[standardtoaster]

For those who missed it, http://www.livestream.com/stprojectm/video?clipId=pla_16f630e4-2e51-4b45-a82b-66403b3b136b

And it has an extremely smooth framerate too. ;D

 

[Rikana]

I can't comprehend the fact that its toast's stream and its smooth. I miss your old computer. Go back to it.

Spoiler

No. I'm joking. I really enjoy watching the stream now that it plays it really smoothly. I look forward to your other streams because of this.

Edit: your recorded stream isn't up yet by the way.

 

[standardtoaster]

Okay, well I hope it does go up lol.

EDIT: It's up now.

 

[mugwhump]

Do you guys plan on using the Stage Roster Expansion system?

 

[MonkUnit]

We will try and use it in the final version so that replaced stages have their original part. Such as, FoD is on mario bros and we'll use the SRE to get a copy of mario bros. That way there is mario bros and FoD.

 

[ajajayjay]

so how exactly does the stale moves counter work? does it only go up for consecutive HITTING moves, or MISSING moves as well?

for the first move to be reset to normal knockback, do you have to MISS with another move or HIT with another move?

 

[Rikana]

Staling only applies to the attacks that hit.

 

[FireBall Stars]

there's no way to make the stages use only a part of the musics each?

Mario Bros. with FoD music and FoD with Mario Bros. music would be very strange.

 

[MonkUnit]

i never thought of that, fireball

 

[ManEg]

Hey FireBall Stars, I noticed a few posts back that you quoted me on your sig, thanks for that <3

But how come your sig doesn't appear every time you post, but only sometimes?

 

[FireBall Stars]

because for some reason, when I quick reply and it's on "show your signature", my signature only appears when I "go advanced".
Your post was exactly as I was thinking, had to sig that haha

But yeah, in B+ Battlefield and SSE Jungle shares the same music slots.

It sounded very strange as the music wasn't appropriated for both stages.

 

[Cemetery]

Watching the saved stream gave me a slight idea:

A demo version or a full character roster displaying usage of tech skill and combos? It would let the community know of these discoveries, I guess more people will be aware of the potential Project Melee has.

Plus, they're sexy.

 

[standardtoaster]

Lawl, I linked the wrong stream recording. XD

Here's the right one.

http://www.livestream.com/stprojectm/video?clipId=pla_a58aea54-3591-4ee1-8db3-725fa5907994