Project M Social Thread

[lil T]

However, he was on the character page until recently, which is what was addressed. I assume that one of the devs asked Dantarion to edit that out (along with the intro page always showing up when you first visit the site) when the site got borked.

Ohhh I didt notice he was still on the site
I just remember seeing This

 

[Shadic]

However, he was on the character page until recently, which is what was addressed. I assume that one of the devs asked Dantarion to edit that out (along with the intro page always showing up when you first visit the site) when the site got borked.

This is mostly true. We didn't have full editing capabilities of the entire site until recently.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Alright, finished reading through the last 5 writeups. Now some questions/comments.

If a Green Missile is charged past the duration of this flash then the attack will return to normal, and the misfire will be stored for the next Green Missile.

How long is the duration of the flash? Do you just have to do a tap/uncharged missile to get the misfire and charge it a little for a normal one, or will you have to be closer to fully charging it if you want to avoid the misfire?

Not to speak of his now-radically powerful Down-Tilt…

I heard that this has the Mr. Saturn sound effect now, but I was looking away the one time that it happened on the stream. Does anyone know how strong it actually is now?

Finally, it might pay to experiment with her Peach Bomber - The Princess seems to be taking cues from Captain Falcon these days…

I'm assuming that this is a secret that hasn't been mentioned at all until today, right? Hmm, it could mean that it sends them up from the ground/down from the air. Or it could just mean that it can hit shields now.

Finally, it would be cool if you could add that demo 2 character select screenshot to the Characters page and let you click on each character to go to their writeup.

 

[Strong Badam]

If it's apparent that Peach is too good with these relatively small changes after some high level tournament play and feedback(which, no offense I R MarF, but I doubt you can provide), then she'll be nerfed. It's weird how we have the ability to balance a game after the masses play it.

 

[Master WGS]

If it's apparent that Peach is too good with these relatively small changes after some high level tournament play and feedback(which, no offense I R MarF, but I doubt you can provide), then she'll be nerfed. It's weird how we have the ability to balance a game after the masses play it.

This.

10This

 

[I R MarF]

Most people don't even realize that spikes have very poor onstage utility even though they are strong offstage. Take Captain Falcon's meteor for instance. It has great onstage use because it knocks an opponent straight up for like 3 seconds and gives him all the time in the world to knee. Marth and Falco's spikes hit out and are easier to DI away from onstage and require much higher percents to link another attack into. (disregarding Falco's shine that is)

If Marth and Falco had meteors, the only difference would be that they would have a new onstage asset because Marth could now dair>fsmash at early percents and dair>up-b at high percents and Falco could could dair>bair any day of the week. You'd simply be replacing one option with another.

You are kinda annoying..I see why people was picking fights with you yesterday
Just shut up and deal with the fact that she got buff's
I'm not a peach main and my rival is, hearing she got buff's i don't agree with don't make me wanna argue an (Most likely) not changing thing and make people give you reason's why it need's to be done... be sides if you REALLY i mean REALLY hate the fact that she got buff.. then edit it yourself when it comes out. lmao....

I'm allowed to voice my opinion and buffing a character who is 100% viable is a legitimate complaint.

 

[PEEF!]

100% viable but not 100% Fox. The goal, keep in mind, is to make every character as good as the spacies.

 

[KingClubber]

Nearly as good, not as good.

 

[GP&B]

You are allowed to voice your opinion. It just tends to be backed by an obnoxiously large amount of theorysmashing and the topic at hand usually deals with pathetically minor changes. It's the reason why people get so tired of your posts.

Please, please, please just wait until this demo's out and then start giving feedback.

 

[lil T]

If it's apparent that Peach is too good with these relatively small changes after some high level tournament play and feedback(which, no offense I R MarF, but I doubt you can provide), then she'll be nerfed. It's weird how we have the ability to balance a game after the masses play it.

All of this

I'm allowed to voice my opinion and buffing a character who is 100% viable is a legitimate complaint.

Yeah but your just annoying, Voicing opinion is one thing but it always sounds like your crying over something and then when someone prove what you say wrong or something along the sort you just get even more annoying cause you got this "I'm never wrong" Thought going along in your head. which, in other words, you never come to an agreement, you just argue into what you want is done which never happens.

 

[a nub]

I really hope you're not implying falco and marth dairs dont combo into everything

=/

 

[Strong Badam]

There's also no way of knowing if a Project M character such as Wolf or Lucario develops to be a hard counter to Peach. That's why we implemented a few buffs and are anxious to see if they were necessary, or if we should roll her back a bit. This is true for just about any character in Project M.

 

[phurgawtin]

I'm assuming that this is a secret that hasn't been mentioned at all until today, right? Hmm, it could mean that it sends them up from the ground/down from the air. Or it could just mean that it can hit shields now.

It means that there's an Easter egg for up taunting on contact with side b.

 

[I R MarF]

100% viable but not 100% Fox. The goal, keep in mind, is to make every character as good as the spacies.

Lol then the whole cast needs buffs.

Spoiler

Except Fox and Falco

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

Then again, I think all spikes should be meteors.

I think I know what would be a perfect game for you

 

[crush]

wheres tha stage list?

 

[Master WGS]

Ho boy, I'm making some bang-up jokes on twitter using the #projectmelee hashtag. You should all come along for the ride.

Spoiler

Bad puns and wordplay for everyone!

 

[Strong Badam]

lol
that doesn't even work
i should remove that

 

[UltiMario]

I'm allowed to voice my opinion and buffing a character who is 100% viable is a legitimate complaint.

"Viable" is a bad word

For example, Ganondorf was 100% Viable in Melee.

Doesn't mean he was good enough to not deserve a long list of buffs, though.

Lol then the whole cast needs buffs.

Spoiler

Except Fox and Falco

and that's exactly what they got.

 

[Citizen Snips]

I am terribly amused when people say that Peach is "way better" than Captain Falcon.

I'm amused when people say Captain Falcon is more than an okay character.

Both of these.

Besides, they're balancing to Fox. Are you saying that Peach is better than Fox? Because that's the only way I can see her not getting any buffs.

 

[curry9186]

Alright, finished reading through the last 5 writeups. Now some questions/comments.

I heard that this has the Mr. Saturn sound effect now, but I was looking away the one time that it happened on the stream. Does anyone know how strong it actually is now?

That line in the write-up was intentionally misleading to get you to use the move. You're right about the sound effect.

I'm assuming that this is a secret that hasn't been mentioned at all until today, right? Hmm, it could mean that it sends them up from the ground/down from the air. Or it could just mean that it can hit shields now.

It's been mentioned in streams. Think of C. Falcon's easter egg.

Just so you know.

 

[I R MarF]

There's also no way of knowing if a Project M character such as Wolf or Lucario develops to be a hard counter to Peach. That's why we implemented a few buffs and are anxious to see if they were necessary, or if we should roll her back a bit. This is true for just about any character in Project M.

What about Marth then? How do you predict he will play?

 

[Citizen Snips]

What about Marth then? How do you predict he will play?

Extremely gay, as is tradition.

 

[tripwire]

Lol then the whole cast needs buffs.

Spoiler

Except Fox and Falco

I really don't think she will be too good as you are implying. You have no idea how she will match up against the already buff'd melee veterans or the new brawl characters.

 

[XLR8TION]

Marth plays like melee.

 

[Strong Badam]

Marth is like Melee
who I still feel is a better character than Peach

 

[Evilagram]

He already has a slightly more usable string of Dancing Blades in comparison to Melee.

That's pretty badass. In what way?

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Has anything changed so peach can fight jiggs? (Just another reasion i r marf needs to stop)

 

[Strong Badam]

god dammit i can't edit in this thread

 

[PEEF!]

Nearly as good, not as good.

There is nothing in the "Project:M Bible" that says nearly as good. The goal is to get balance as good as possible, and if we can make every character as good as the spacies we will. The practical problem is that it is very difficult to do this without overdoing it, so making every character at least high-tier is the first priority. If we found out somehow legitimately that Demo2 Peach was as good as Fox, we would not have a problem with it. In fact, that would be great.

We have no irrational desire to place the spacies a little bit above every other character. Instead, they just provide a difficult point to balance around, but we intend on getting as close as is practically possible.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

Yes

 

[Archangel]

Marth is like Melee
who I still feel is a better character than Peach

are characters being edited or left alone based on feelings or facts? IIRC Peach has been outplacing Marth in major events the past 2 1/2-3 years. Discounting Armada's peach. and M2K who goes Sheik 80% of the time.

 

[hotdogturtle]

It means that there's an Easter egg for up taunting on contact with side b.

Oh, thanks (and the other guy who answered me after this post too). I forgot about that easter egg.

 

[phurgawtin]

Lol novice

 

[The_Guide]

I see no problems with characters having really good things. I also think that its kinda ridiculous that people seem to be placing Peach's minor buffs on the same level as Marth and Fox's best attributes.

There's constructive feedback, and then there's nitpicking.

 

[Master WGS]

Love seeing that revision number go up on the site.

 

[Strong Badam]

are characters being edited or left alone based on feelings or facts? IIRC Peach has been outplacing Marth in major events the past 2 1/2-3 years. Discounting Armada's peach. and M2K who goes Sheik 80% of the time.

Refer to my signature as to why marth hasn't been placing highly.

 

[yourface191]

I think it would be slightly unfair for a character that is relatively easy to use to be as good as a hard character to use. The best characters in melee were all pretty hard to use with the exception of marth. This is my opinion of course...

 

[lil T]

Yes

+1
no
+2
no no no
+100
lol Your post made me really lol

 

[Master WGS]

Refer to my signature as to why marth hasn't been placing highly.

Which, as a Marth main, I completely agree with.