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Chesstiger2612

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Hey, I got Smash 4 on Monday. I like it in many aspects, and the only minor little detail I would criticize... is the gameplay altogether.
Prefer PM... Not surprised...
 

PlateProp

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...So like, does this mean that Fax players are banking on how broken Fax is compared to everyone in 3.5, as in how M2/Lucas was in 3.02?

Cause I kinda find that funny
 

Frost | Odds

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...So like, does this mean that Fax players are banking on how broken Fax is compared to everyone in 3.5, as in how M2/Lucas was in 3.02?

Cause I kinda find that funny
No, the only reason that Fox gets the most tourney wins is that Fox players are the best and put the most effort into improving at PM.
 

Yung Mei

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just found out my younger brother is being bullied, i wish it was legal to slap the **** out of other kids and their parents for not raising them right
 
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oh hey are we talking about fixing spacies
Plz not again it's like a weekly discussion I'm sick of it
just found out my younger brother is being bullied, i wish it was legal to slap the **** out of other kids and their parents for not raising them right
It's not illegal if you don't get caught
 

Lizalfos

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Calling Falco dumb but not explaining why he is dumber than any other P:M character.
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If I split component cables I won't lose quality or have audio issues, right?
 

Choice Scarf

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Hey so a question about which characters are repped in which region just came up in the survey thread. Is there like a Google Map or something that shows where all of the players are? I know regional stuff exists on some facebook groups but I don't know if it's gotten to national/global scales yet.

If there was a map that could filter out players by character that would be pretty cool. Not sure how much data an online map can handle though...
 

Wolf_

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Well, it takes a lot of skill to use Fox right, honestly I think everyone should practice Fox, I don't think I would've become decent at this game without Fox practice

Continuing my first playthrough of Final Fantasy 10! www.twitch.tv/Hylian88
Dude, I did the same thing when FFXHD was released, first time I ever played it, went in not expecting to become a fan.... now I'm a fan, such a good game
 
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Hinichii.ez.™

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Calling Falco dumb but not explaining why he is dumber than any other P:M character.
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If I split component cables I won't lose quality or have audio issues, right?
falco is still dumb
but ill slap your falco regardless
 

PootisKonga

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Am I the only person who sees broken and overpowered as two separate concepts? Shine is broken (in a way that is arguably OP, but that's not how I see it), Fox and Falco are not OP but are also broken in design. They combo to death or get comboed to death, so at high level play one player in a match with a spacie in it is almost unable to interact until after they are put into a disadvantageous position
 
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Am I the only person who sees broken and overpowered as two separate concepts? Shine is broken (in a way that is arguably OP, but that's not how I see it), Fox and Falco are not OP but are also broken in design. They combo to death or get comboed to death, so at high level play one player in a match with a spacie in it is almost unable to interact until after they are put into a disadvantageous position
Uhhh... that's not broken design, that's a glass cannon. Pretty much every notable fighting game has at least one. It's an archetype, not a flawed design.
 

MagnesD3

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Uhhh... that's not broken design, that's a glass cannon. Pretty much every notable fighting game has at least one. It's an archetype, not a flawed design.
Many argue that this can be very poorly designed if one side outways the other. Seth from sf4 comes to mind.


Makoto on the other hand is a well designed glass cannon.
 
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Many argue that this can be very poorly designed if one side outways the other. Seth from sf4 comes to mind.
People complain about these characters the most, that's definitely true.

Seth is sort of a bad example though, because he can literally die off of one touch and some chip damage. In Street Fighter IV, that's unheard of outside of Desk combo videos. His weaknesses keep him in check, as evidenced by the small number of top level Seth players.

Now Zero or Phoenix in Marvel 3 would be accurate examples of poorly designed glass cannons, albeit for different reasons.
 

MagnesD3

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People complain about these characters the most, that's definitely true.

Seth is sort of a bad example though, because he can literally die off of one touch and some chip damage. In Street Fighter IV, that's unheard of outside of Desk combo videos. His weaknesses keep him in check, as evidenced by the small number of top level Seth players.

Now Zero or Phoenix in Marvel 3 would be accurate examples of poorly designed glass cannons, albeit for different reasons.
Seth is horridly designed due to the astounding amount of tools he has been given, low health isn't enough to make up for what he had. He's quite a bit more balanced in Ultra but many would argue he isn't very good anymore.

Phoenix was really bad design due to the engine with terrible balance and zero was just too strong with not enough weaknesses. (With arguably no weaknesses)
 
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A lot of other characters in SF4 constantly stole Seth's thunder, tho'. So being a jack-of-all trades glass cannon really didn't help him all that much.

Smooth Criminal
 
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you guys think we should do a PM top 100 players thing like melee and brawl are doing?
 

shairn

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you guys think we should do a PM top 100 players thing like melee and brawl are doing?
I think PM standings are too volatile to manage a reliable PR. People are always finding new things and adapting to new matchups, so upsets happen all the time and can lead to overestimating some players, or underestimating others.
 

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I would assume that the top 25 would be consistent enough to rank properly.

people don't care where they are on the list if they know they aren't a top level player, they would just care that they are on the list at all
 
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Binary Clone

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I would assume that the top 25 would be consistent enough to rank properly.

people don't care where they are on the list if they know they aren't a top level player, they would just care that they are on the list at all
I agree, and it'd be a nice list to have for a lot of us scrubs who want to research games by top players.

Can I be on the list
I placed 9th at a 32 person weekly
Yeah can I be on it too? I placed 4th at a 12ish person monthly that M2K was at.
 
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Empyrean

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Imo there's a consistent top 10 at the very least, anything below that becomes very debatable.

As someone who don't care about poke since a long while, Crystal da bess
 

Swampy948

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Hey guys, a few of my friends and I are thinking of hosting friendlies and tournaments once we feel comfortable with friendlies. Can someone tell me how to get it spread around?
 

shairn

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Hey guys, a few of my friends and I are thinking of hosting friendlies and tournaments once we feel comfortable with friendlies. Can someone tell me how to get it spread around?
Join the facebook group for your local scene and advertise it there. Alternatively, make flyers to hang around your school and local gaming shops and word will spread.
 
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