Project M Social Thread Gold

[MechWarriorNY]

Damn Mech, the contempt. Dial it back lmao

Never.

 

[SpiderMad]

Yo sweg, you still open?

@Tail If you say so.

Sure, come to the IRC
http://widget00.mibbit.com/?server=irc.gamesurge.net&channel=#projectm&nick=pmchat_???&customloading=waiting for the IRC-server ...&customprompt=Welcome to Project M IRC Chat&noServerNotices=1

Oh no, dumb Smash 4 stuff

lol @ MechWarriorNY there's like a misclick in MS paint on that

 

[Empyrean]

The 50'' HDTV I use for Smash 4 (which I used for PM back when I didn't have no crt) is luckily part of a series of very low delay TVs made by LG. I think it's about ~2 frames of lag, obvi nowhere as good as monitors, but the transition from HDTV to crt was smooth af when I did it.

Also lmao Zero's ego been inflated to a point where he thinks people will get behind whatever he says. Tbh I respect the dude, but cmon

 

[Saito]

Was playing smash 4 at school today.

6 people using 3ds one using the gamepad, me using the wii u pro

The wireless interference is ****ing real.

Bringing the GC adapter next week. **** wireless.

 

[SpiderMad]

Was playing smash 4 at school today.

6 people using 3ds one using the gamepad, me using the wii u pro

The wireless interference is ****ing real.

Bringing the GC adapter next week. **** wireless.

What exactly goes wrong?

 

[zman804]

http://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comme...gusting_grand_finals_set_axe_marth_vs/cmcn2yq

My heart can't handle this much love

Spoiler

[\spoiler]

 

[Hylian]

And this is why upscalers are godtier.

So you arent restricted to monitors. It's great investment.

I think you missed the part where I mentioned that upscalers cause lag. The very very best ones still cause 1 frame of lag on a 60 fps game, and you can't even really find those anywhere. Actually, I think you missed the entire point of my post, which was that even if the game was in NATIVE resolution it would still lag because most of the lag on HDTV's comes from post-processing, not from upscaling.

 

[GHNeko]

I think you missed the part where I mentioned that upscalers cause lag. The very very best ones still cause 1 frame of lag on a 60 fps game, and you can't even really find those anywhere. Actually, I think you missed the entire point of my post, which was that even if the game was in NATIVE resolution it would still lag because most of the lag on HDTV's comes from post-processing, not from upscaling.

Oh I misread. My bad.

 

[Hylian]

Oh I misread. My bad.

Placebo is a powerful thing :/.

 

[Gamegenie222]

The 50'' HDTV I use for Smash 4 (which I used for PM back when I didn't have no crt) is luckily part of a series of very low delay TVs made by LG. I think it's about ~2 frames of lag, obvi nowhere as good as monitors, but the transition from HDTV to crt was smooth af when I did it.

Also lmao Zero's ego been inflated to a point where he thinks people will get behind whatever he says. Tbh I respect the dude, but cmon

IT's kinda hard to get to that status level and not develop some type of ego somewhere for most people LBSH.

 

[Saito]

What exactly goes wrong?

At first I just thought I was scrubbing out.

I was getting hit by things I shouldn't of got hit by and I was thinking "WHAT, I BLOCKED THAT'
I just passed it off as me johning and just kept trying to play better.

I noticed my inputs were off, I was getting hit through my shield, my runs were wierd and everything in general was just bad.
Same thing though, I thought I was just playing bad, and just tried harder.

Then during one of the matches I started blocking just to make sure, and I noticed my shield was dropping on it's own. I was holding the button down but my input just dropped then repicked up again.

I saw it while running when I stopped running and just started walking

my attempted pivot tilts / fsmashes turned into dash attacks.

It was awful.

 

[Empyrean]

IT's kinda hard to get to that status level and not develop some type of ego somewhere for most people LBSH.

True, true, specially considering all the endless hate he would get for a while before becoming quite popular.

But still..ban...diddy..like cmon

 

[robosteven]

I haven't really played too much Sm4sh but

can we talk about DK's down-b animation

because it's perfect

 

[Empyrean]

They should make down-b jump cancellable
like it is in Tropical freeze

and dash attack too
like it is in Tropical freeze

Tropical freeze confirmed more technical than smash

 

[Vashimus]

**** a lot of Smash 4's animations. It seems like Sakurai wanted to change the animations of some attacks to make them fresh, when really they just look super awkward.

Pikachu's F-Smash, Link's Uair, Lucario's everything, etc.

 

[Prince Longstrok]

I think you missed the part where I mentioned that upscalers cause lag. The very very best ones still cause 1 frame of lag on a 60 fps game, and you can't even really find those anywhere. Actually, I think you missed the entire point of my post, which was that even if the game was in NATIVE resolution it would still lag because most of the lag on HDTV's comes from post-processing, not from upscaling.

So we are going to be stuck playing on outdated TVs that look awful? :\

damn. Really wish this issue was solved, because some people wont even play with you unless you have a giant, ugly CRT in the room.

 

[robosteven]

**** a lot of Smash 4's animations. It seems like Sakurai wanted to change the animations of some attacks to make them fresh, when really they just look super awkward.

Including DK's down-b, but it's okay that it looks super awkward because it's DK.

The Link uair though...

...yeah I don't know what they were thinking at all.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Yo some top players are crying and going ape crazy over Diddy Kong in Smash 4 on twitter (no pun intended) and supposing a ban and Leffen of all people is making sense.

More accurately, Zero proposed a ban and everybody (top players and randoms alike) is universally ****ting on him for it.

 

[Hylian]

So we are going to be stuck playing on outdated TVs that look awful? :\

damn. Really wish this issue was solved, because some people wont even play with you unless you have a giant, ugly CRT in the room.

No. First off, the lag on good HDTVs isn't *that* bad and will feel significantly better than playing a game that BOTH upscales and has post-processing. Secondly, we just play on monitors instead of CRTs. I just went to a tournament yesterday and all of our set-ups were wiiUs + monitors and it was great. Much easier to carry around than CRTs.

 

[Comeback Kid]

He says it was a hypothetical ban now to cover his ass, but considering he was arguing about it in real life with top players I would say he was trying to start something that he is now backing off from because nobody gave him the positive response he was looking for.

 

[Gamegenie222]

More accurately, Zero proposed a ban and everybody (top players and randoms alike) is universally ****ting on him for it.

Rightfully so.

He says it was a hypothetical ban now to cover his ***, but considering he was arguing about it in real life with top players I would say he was trying to start something that he is now backing off from because nobody gave him the positive response he was looking for.

It was probably salt talking and using his influence but didn't get nowhere.

It's also funny that he asked that we should ban a character not even a week in the Wii U version and he played the most busted smash character in smash history so much that folks have to make half a list of rules to deal to keep him at bay all the while robbing folks for 6 years.

 

[JOE!]

Just bought a 6" binder stuffed with magic cards off a friend for 25$. Even with poopy 0.05$ cards, I should be able to get like 100$ off it.

We pawn stars now

 

[Saito]

Diddy is that good in smash 4?

Jesus, someone show me a video or something where he decimates more than a brawl meta knight.

 

[MagnesD3]

Diddy is that good in smash 4?

Jesus, someone show me a video or something where he decimates more than a brawl meta knight.

Yes I'd love to know why. I know he is really good but bannable good never crossed my mind.

 

[KayB]

More accurately, Zero proposed a ban and everybody (top players and randoms alike) is universally ****ting on him for it.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

While people are arguing in the house w/ Zero about what he said...

...M2K shows up and says, "Why didn't you ask them to ban MetaKnight?"

— xD1x (@xD1x) November 25, 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States

 

[Rᴏb]

Diddy is that good in smash 4?

Jesus, someone show me a video or something where he decimates more than a brawl meta knight.

He just gets a free uthrow to uair followup that actually kills, unlike most followups in Smash 4. He doesn't even come close to Barwl MK, which is the hilarious part because Zero was perfectly okay with MK staying legal and even mained him.

While people are arguing in the house w/ Zero about what he said...

...M2K shows up and says, "Why didn't you ask them to ban MetaKnight?"

— xD1x (@xD1x) November 25, 2014

best tweet
****in Kayb

 

[KayB]

best tweet
****in Kayb

 

[SpiderMad]

Yooo, Samus' missile limit was removed @standardtoaster who fixed this? [This means you can spam missiles on Yoshi's side platform and none of them explode early now] Was this in the change log? She also seems easier to MW with

 

[Saito]

No. First off, the lag on good HDTVs isn't *that* bad and will feel significantly better than playing a game that BOTH upscales and has post-processing. Secondly, we just play on monitors instead of CRTs. I just went to a tournament yesterday and all of our set-ups were wiiUs + monitors and it was great. Much easier to carry around than CRTs.

I don't understand why monitors are optimal for this.

I want to assume they don't suffer the same problems that HDTV's do, but why is that?

 

[Hylian]

I don't understand why monitors are optimal for this.

I want to assume they don't suffer the same problems that HDTV's do, but why is that?

It's because monitors don't have post-processing, which is what makes HDTV's lag. Monitors are better in almost every way than TV's, and it's sad they don't make giant ones yet for reasonable prices.

 

[Saito]

It's because monitors don't have post-processing, which is what makes HDTV's lag. Monitors are better in almost every way than TV's, and it's sad they don't make giant ones yet for reasonable prices.

Ok, now I don't mean to pester, but does post processing benefit actual television watching or something?

Is there any benefit at all to having post processing?

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Holy ****, 30 inch monitors are ****ing expensive.
WHY IS THIS A THING.

 

[Binary Clone]

Holy ****, 30 inch monitors are ****ing expensive.
WHY IS THIS A THING.

Yeah monitors skyrocket in price above ~23" or so.

 

[Hylian]

Ok, now I don't mean to pester, but does post processing benefit actual television watching or something?

Is there any benefit at all to having post processing?

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Holy ****, 30 inch monitors are ****ing expensive.
WHY IS THIS A THING.

Post-Processing basically takes the input from the device and enhances the colors in various ways to make it look better, and then outputs the new image to the TV. Different TV's will post-process things in different ways leading to more or less lag, also the option for post processing in games is often different and commonly refers to things like depth of field and bloom. So yeah, a HDTV will make HD movies looks better with richer colors and such, but the difference is negligible for a lot of people, especially for gaming.

 

[Warsaint777]

Who were the people who wanted to Wifi? I got some free time now

@ Warsaint777 @PMS | Kailex @ Lizalfos

oh my bad spidermad i'll fight you sometime soon. gimme yo digits boo

anyway idk this is frustrating @ Hylian because I seriously feel like I'm not good with any lag whatsoever and when there isn't any I'm so, so good. Like I know that's like a big "duh" but like. Ugh. I don't like that it's like supposed to be expected, like I don't want to have to get used to it or adapt to it.

 

[SpiderMad]

I can play some now if you're able to @ Warsaint777 just go here and ping me http://widget00.mibbit.com/?server=irc.gamesurge.net&channel=#projectm&nick=pmchat_???&customloading=waiting for the IRC-server ...&customprompt=Welcome to Project M IRC Chat&noServerNotices=1

 

[Jolteon]

Yes I'd love to know why. I know he is really good but bannable good never crossed my mind.

Totally read this as bananable.

 

[Lizalfos]

@ SpiderMad I play like every other weekend, cause until I get around to making my Wii USB load I just have a WiiU. When I go to my Dad's place for the weekend I have a working Wii (he got a used one for my birthday, he da real MVP).

This is why I didn't play 3.5 with a GC controller until the past weekend and also the reason I was hype for subspace (cause I don't need perfect tech)

 

[Hylian]

oh my bad spidermad i'll fight you sometime soon. gimme yo digits boo

anyway idk this is frustrating @ Hylian because I seriously feel like I'm not good with any lag whatsoever and when there isn't any I'm so, so good. Like I know that's like a big "duh" but like. Ugh. I don't like that it's like supposed to be expected, like I don't want to have to get used to it or adapt to it.

Just play on monitors or CRTs and you'll be fine. Most tournaments will just have monitors there as that is the FGC standard. On some HDTVs the game mode is good enough to where you probably won't even notice the difference when switching since you can forgo the image scaling. BenQ does actually make TV's and they are pushing things like gaming monitors pretty hard, so I imagine they will be the first to make a gaming TV that is really just a huge monitor.

 

[SpiderMad]

 

[RyLoTheHedgehog]

Anybody available to play project M right now???????
Message me or reply with friend code please.