Potential Leaked Roster Surfaces

[Booster]

I can make a better "leak" in Micorsoft Paint than this.

I made a better Roster "Leak" then this and it consists of mostly 3rd Party and Disney characters xP

Though this would be a nice roster aside from Doctor Mario (The most pointless character ever, he'd be an alt at best like in Project M)

 

[ROBnWatch]

Another problem that I think people are missing is the fact that the "Duck Hunt" character portrait implies that the Dog and the Duck are a team, both being equally important to the team-up. And as pointed out before, the dog actually has a name, so if the dog WAS the only major part of the character, they'd just call the character "Mr. Peepers" rather than "Duck Hunt", which implies a team. This has been done with Olimar, who is just named after himself in-game, and his CSS icon doesn't display the Pikmin since they are ammunition rather than characters that co-operate with him. But the CSS icon on the top screen only shows the dog. Yet, Rosalina & Luma both appear in their CSS icon (which is consistent with their official CSS icon in the Wii U version, as we've seen in the demo build), since both Rosalina & Luma are equally integral parts of the pairing and are literally two different characters just made to work together. The other team-based characters, Ice Climbers, were also both visible in their portrait in Brawl too.

So essentially, we have only had two team-based characters in the history of the franchise, and both are named in a way that indicates they are a team, and the CSS icons for them depict both characters in the pair. However, "Duck Hunt" implies a team-up too, yet only portrays the assumed "base" character in the CSS icon (much like how Rosalina and Popo are the "base" character in their respective pairs). Why is that the case?

And I don't see renders that LOOK "official and new" to be any evidence, since the photos are so blurry and often have light covering half of these renders, which would conveniently cover up any photoshopping/modelling blunders. And even then, we can spot some problems with them (is it just me or does Shulk's hair in his render look less detailed than the other realistic human renders, like Robin?).

I think this news post was definitely made pre-maturely, since as soon as it was made, everyone could tear it apart anyway. In the future, wait until people have gotten the chance to thoroughly analyse it first.

Dang, good eye, SonicBrawler.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

So...should we discuss this here?
Or just lament it's uncontested legitimacy?

I, for one, think it's fake. There's so much that doesn't add up here.
I highly doubt we'd get Dr. Mario, DHD, Dark Pit, while cutting Ice Climbers, Lucas and Wolf and not adding Mewtwo.

Plus, Shulk's face looks like Pit, and his hair like Male Robin. A lot of these things, at this resolution, could have been Photoshopped. Additionally, the fact that the cut characters are all DLC is a HUGE red flag for me, because seriously, that's stupid.

I have to agree this seems to force in alot of parts and dog from duckhunt? are you kidding me?

 

[ahannoush4]

Fake because Isaac is missing

 

[Jexulus]

Ganondorf's picture is blacked out while the others are clear, the characters are arranged with no rhyme or reason, Shulk looks nothing like himself, the ? over Mewtwo's face, Wario's model looks ripped straight from Brawl, etc. This is completely and utterly fake.

 

[Aguki90]

Is fake because is fake.
After all. the Roster is horrible I feel want to vomit how he edit it.
More clone and clone.
I think shulk and the stuped duck hunt dog look cool. but IS FAKE.

 

[CrossoverMan]

I can make a better "leak" in Micorsoft Paint than this.

Go on then. Seriously, make a leak that's more convincing than this, I double dare you.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Go on then. Seriously, make a leak that's more convincing than this, I double dare you.

So you're saying you believe this?

 

[ChikoLad]

Go on then. Seriously, make a leak that's more convincing than this, I double dare you.

It actually wouldn't be that difficult for anyone with a bit of photoshop experience.

The most believeable photo in this entire set is the customisation options, but making menu icons with such a simple style is child's play. People also have the exact font for much of the basic text in Smash 4.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

This is soooooooo fake.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Oooo, heavy hit.

nope.

 

[Arcadenik]

nope.

Hmmm... I wonder if the different thickness in these three lines are for letting us know which players have thin or thick outlines...?

 

[PokéMurio]

If it had EITHER Ridley or K. Rool, I could live with it.

 

[Uffe]

I can hope that this is fake, but then again, I really like how Ness looks here.

 

[RPGatWill]

I'll try to look at this logically and not just scream Real or Fake because I could easily do that because I know me. Alright, one step at a time.

First row: Mario characters are not grouped together. It's strange that Yoshi is smushed in between Bowser and Rosalina when Nintendo has been pushing Yoshi as a separate franchise. Game and Watch being on the top row seems a little odd in and of itself, and especially so when placed to Wario. However, from what I can see upon my closest examination, the dark part does just seem to be Wario's jacket and not G+W's hand.

Second row: Nothing seems amiss here. Not seeing Dixie, K. Rool or Ridley when I think all of them seem like more desired choices than Bowser Jr. is a little weird but that's not for me to judge.

Third row: This will be discussed in row five, but on its own it is fine.

Fourth row: Again nothing to note here, but the render of Duck Hunt is exceptional.

Fifth row: Here's where the second biggest 'problem' appears. Mostly with the last three characters Dr. Mario, Pitoo (Dark Pit) and Lucina. Why are these characters separate from their respective franchises? Now with Toon Link and Lucina we have seen Sakurai is not putting ZERO clone/semi-clone characters into the game, so arguing Dr. Mario and Pitoo's chances are not something I can do. I will say personally I think they'd be better alts than separate characters. However Dr. Mario could easily fit in the first row while Game and watch could be on the fourth. Pitoo and Lucina should both be on row three, though that would mean moving Kirby down a row and shifting some singular characters to fill up the empty spaces. There is no reason, however, that they would not be shown with their respective franchise barring some weird thing like the bottom two rows being unlockables or something. Does this disprove the leak? I don't know.

Last row is also fine, so moving to image two. This imagine makes zero sense to me. I guess it's to throw doubt on whether mewtwo is playable or not, but we all have that already so...

I will note the 5 character pictures may be the starting screen where the characters will scroll past on the bottom screen until you press a button. That's my only guess because since each image shows five characters it cannot be a winner screen or anything like that.

Stages and their merits are not my forte, but the selection looks decent at least.

I don't know if My breakdown helps or adds anything, but there you go.

 

[QuickLava]

I feel like if this is real, A LOT of people will complain about how Dr. Mario was pulled from Melee and not Mewtwo.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

It's also missing Mewtwo.

 

[egaddmario]

I can't wait until this is confirmed real. It's Brawl all over again. And to the people are saying it's fake because it's missing X character, may i remind you of Mewtwo in Brawl. "There's no way he could be missing, right?" And "ROB? No way." were everywhere. This is Sakurai we're talking about. He's going to do what he wants. I believe this is real until real proof comes out saying it's fake. People are nitpicking things that aren't there- Wario's 2nd pupil is by his nose, G&W's hand is not leaking over as that's Wario's jacket, Doc Lucina and Dark Pit aren't with their series because they're last minute clones, and no, Shulk's render isn't Little Mac and Doc's render is different from a google search- his mustache and smile are different, not to mention his stethoscope is placed differently.

 

[Orngeblu]

Fake...clearly Lucina should be with the rest of the FE roster, and Dark Pit should be adjacent to Pit. (Or under?) Why? Because Sakurai places characters related to their franchise, adjacent to the characters.

 

[AB-80]

I'm surprised no one is addressing the sliver piece of the top screen we can all see in the pic with Dr Mario, Link, DK, Little Mac and DDD. Does that look like the game title to you guys? It doesn't look like it lines up for me with the flames and the smash text.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

I'm calling fake right now. And not just because there's no Isaac.

 

[Arcadenik]

Another problem that I think people are missing is the fact that the "Duck Hunt" character portrait implies that the Dog and the Duck are a team, both being equally important to the team-up. And as pointed out before, the dog actually has a name, so if the dog WAS the only major part of the character, they'd just call the character "Mr. Peepers" rather than "Duck Hunt", which implies a team. This has been done with Olimar, who is just named after himself in-game, and his CSS icon doesn't display the Pikmin since they are ammunition rather than characters that co-operate with him. But the CSS icon on the top screen only shows the dog. Yet, Rosalina & Luma both appear in their CSS icon (which is consistent with their official CSS icon in the Wii U version, as we've seen in the demo build), since both Rosalina & Luma are equally integral parts of the pairing and are literally two different characters just made to work together. The other team-based characters, Ice Climbers, were also both visible in their portrait in Brawl too.

So essentially, we have only had two team-based characters in the history of the franchise, and both are named in a way that indicates they are a team, and the CSS icons for them depict both characters in the pair. However, "Duck Hunt" implies a team-up too, yet only portrays the assumed "base" character in the CSS icon (much like how Rosalina and Popo are the "base" character in their respective pairs). Why is that the case?

And I don't see renders that LOOK "official and new" to be any evidence, since the photos are so blurry and often have light covering half of these renders, which would conveniently cover up any photoshopping/modelling blunders. And even then, we can spot some problems with them (is it just me or does Shulk's hair in his render look less detailed than the other realistic human renders, like Robin?).

I think this news post was definitely made pre-maturely, since as soon as it was made, everyone could tear it apart anyway. In the future, wait until people have gotten the chance to thoroughly analyse it first.

Mr. Peepers is not his name. It never was. And "Duck Hunt Dog" is a fan nickname for the nameless dog from Duck Hunt. The reason he has that nickname is to let people know who we are talking about... specifically the dog from Duck Hunt and not some random dog.

It makes sense that "Duck Hunt" is represented by the dog and the ducks. They are literally the only characters in the NES game.

 

[CrossoverMan]

So you're saying you believe this?

I didn't say that, but it's still one of the most convincing leaks out there.

 

[thebadlamp]

Plus Mewtwo will not come back. Its the same thought like Roy will come back. Its senseless. Lucario is already in.

Actually Mewtwo is a unique character, he only shares with Lucario is his neutral special which was also slightly different since it pushed Mewtwo back while Lucario's kept him in place.
Just look up his moveset and you'll understand.

 

[laces]

I don't know what to believe anymore.

 

[Lord_Mountdrago4738]

Then why is Toon Link not with them then?

CAUSE TOON LINK ISNT A CLONE

 

[Opossum]

Whether or not this is real or fake, I caution against people using "it's fake because it doesn't/does have X character." It's faulty reasoning that really came back to bite people in the pre-Brawl days.

 

[link2702]

painfully obvious its fake.

 

[smashbroskilla]

pretty good fake imo. I hope it's fake because I could care less about dark pit and want King K in the game. I suppose it would be cool too if we got Ridley.

 

[Xenado]

painfully obvious its fake.

This is fake because Dr Mario and dark pit are in the wrong areas on the roster.Also canons quality looks bad

 

[The Light Music Club]

The levels thing still bothers me on the Duck Hunt and Ness pic. Smash Run doesn't have levels like that, as they have multiple stats in which you level up. There isn't a true level system. Also, that is where your name goes, not Lv. It seriously doesn't make any sense.

Why would their be ESRB in the name anyway. They don't play the games.

 

[Claire Diviner]

I'm not taking this with a pinch, but with a teaspoon of salt. Until they reveal another character - new or veteran - and said character(s)'s pose(s) matches the render(s) in the screen shots, then we can say that this has ever growing levels of legitimacy.

 

[Arcadenik]

Then why is Toon Link not with them then?

Maybe because he is not a last minute filler clone in this game. He was a last minute filler clone in Brawl... and it looks like Dr. Mario, Lucina, and Dark Pit are the last minute filler clones in this game.

As to why Dr. Mario got in over Mewtwo... maybe Sakurai doesn't like Mewtwo's music?

 

[Wasp]

it's all fake. Just because stuff comes from 4chan it means there are some freaks at work trying to be as believable as possible. It's all fake.

 

[el_profe]

An exceptional but flawed piece of Photoshop. Eventually, one of these will be real, which is why I'm out of here in 10 days--the Japanese reviewers will leak something. Still, C for effort. (I don't give As for effort.)

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

All of my possible points to debunk have been disputed by other posters.

This is a pretty convincing leak. Personally, I'm hoping this is a fake. By the next character reveal, veteran or newcomer, this will be judgement day for this leak by renders alone.

Also, for the uninformed, it should be noted that all character choices coincide with the Ninka/Vaanrose Leak. Whether or not the leaker used this leak to shelter any potential credibility sprung from its claims remains to be seen.

 

[Paper Maribro]

CAUSE TOON LINK ISNT A CLONE

Yeah he's a semi-clone, the same way we obviously already know Lucina isn't without playing the game.

 

[The Slayer]

I would love to see Duck Hunt dog in there. Probably the only reasonable character that make sense in this roster leak. Aside from that, these pictures came from 4chan and that fact alone debunks this leak. Come on people, you can do better than this.

 

[ChikoLad]

Mr. Peepers is not his name. It never was. And "Duck Hunt Dog" is a fan nickname for the nameless dog from Duck Hunt. The reason he has that nickname is to let people know who we are talking about... specifically the dog from Duck Hunt and not some random dog.

It makes sense that "Duck Hunt" is represented by the dog and the ducks. They are literally the only characters in the NES game.

A quick Google search tells me otherwise:

https://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=&ie=UTF-8&q=duck hunt dog mr peepers

While the English translated interview that the information came from is was later edited to remove mention of Mr. Peepers, the original Spanish interview never was (however the site that had the interview is gone now, I think).

If you're gonna assume that the removal of the name from the Nintendo World Report translation means that the mention of the name was a mistake, it wasn't - the name was most likely removed because "Mr. Peepers" also happens to be the name of a fairly high profile pornography website, so the name was removed since minors/children follow NWW, and if they Googl'd the name, they might run into the porn site.

And even if we ignore this information, the "Duck Hunt" name still poses problems when you consider the CSS icon.

 

[Mic_128]

YEAH IF THIS IS REAL COULD YOU AT LEAST PUT A ****ING SPOILRER ALERT, WHAT THE **** DID I SAY ABOUT LEAVING ME SPOILERS

The title of the article said 'Potential Leaked Roster' and the picture along side is a very small character select screen that you'd have to intentionally focus on to see what's actually in it.

If you didn't take the hint from the title, or saw a very busy character select screen and intentionally stared at it, that's your fault, no one elses.