Pokken Fighters: It's an actual thing now!

[MandoBardanJusik]

Tyrantrum has not evolved from an earlier gen Pokemon...

Whoops, that was a wrong assumption on my part, I though he was an evolution of Tyranitar. I'm a fighting game guy, not a Pokémon guy... well unique fun crazy looking fighting games at least

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

So, with regular Mewtwo's confirmation, three of four of the characters I saw as shoe-in have been confirmed. Only Greninja hasn't been confirmed yet.

I think Scizor and Zoroark are also likely, but neither (or Greninja) has ラ on their names.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

So, with regular Mewtwo's confirmation, three of four of the characters I saw as shoe-in have been confirmed. Only Greninja hasn't been confirmed yet.

I think Scizor and Zoroark are also likely, but neither (or Greninja) has ラ on their names.

Personally I'd be pretty shocked if Blastoise didn't get in, however I think there's a chance he's being saved to tie into something related to the Pokemon Blue, or anime movie re-releases. That, and I think it's more likely than Greninja with the whole Charizard rivalry and being one of if not the most iconic water type, heck I'm surprised it wasn't in at release

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Personally I'd be pretty shocked if Blastoise didn't get in, however I think there's a chance he's being saved to tie into something related to the Pokemon Blue, or anime movie re-releases. That, and I think it's more likely than Greninja with the whole Charizard rivalry and being one of if not the most iconic water type, heck I'm surprised it wasn't in at release

Blastoise is definitely more likely than Feraligatr, Empoleon and Samurott, and might be more likely than Swampert as well (I'm unsure because Swampert has ラ on his name, so he might be revealed on Friday).

I think Greninja is somewhat more likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if Blastoise made it.

But no more Fire starters pls. Three is enough.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Braxien - Definitely a surprise here! I feel it's possible Brax's inclusion came from the anime. I was a little disapointed as I was hoping for Delphox as I'm a sucker for the Psychic types and thought Delphox would be sweet. Braxien's inclusion breaks the traditional legendary/full evolve typing (minus Pikachu) so who knows who is gonna get in now?

Mewtwo and Garchomp - No surprise coming from two popular and iconic Pokemon

 

[Puppyfaic]

I'm VERY surprised at Braixen, but also happy with it! I really like the Fennekin line.
Garchomp, sure, w/e, not a fan.
Mewtwo... why? We already have Shadow Mewtwo. So now we have 2 Pikachus and 2 Mewtwos.

 

[Murlough]

I'm VERY surprised at Braixen, but also happy with it! I really like the Fennekin line.
Garchomp, sure, w/e, not a fan.
Mewtwo... why? We already have Shadow Mewtwo. So now we have 2 Pikachus and 2 Mewtwos.

Shadow Mewtwo probably will end up a non-playable version unless they give base Mewtwo his Y mega.

I'm just waiting on those gameplay trailers. ;v;

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Shadow Mewtwo probably will end up a non-playable version unless they give base Mewtwo his Y mega.

I'm just waiting on those gameplay trailers. ;v;

I think Shadow Mewtwo would end up being a playable unlockable after completing the main story. That's how I'm seeing it based on the amiibo-card that's being advertised

 

[Aninymouse]

Braxien is an awesome choice. I am getting a bit worried with SO MANY FIRE TYPES, but they definitely picked a massively popular 3rd one. Braxien is super cute and has a cool thing going with the "mage-like" play style. They'll probably make it feminine, since we only really have Gardevoir right now for "female" fighters. That it's prime-time Pokephile fuel is unfortunate...

MEWTWO YES. I'm all for two different Mewtwo. Shadow Mewtwo seems to have a really weird moveset that doesn't match the character all that well, so having a more Smash Bros.-esque version to use is my dream come true. I think it's dumb to have 2 Pika and 2 Mew, but y'know, at least they have different movesets. They're arguably the two most popular Pokemon in the world, so is it really that surprising? Shadow Mewtwo's more of a boss, anyway, like M.Bison was.

Garchomp I'm happy about. We didn't really have a proper Dragon or Ground type yet, so this is good. I hope it uses some sand attacks and digs a bit underground. It'll probably have a Psycho Crusher-esque attack (Dragon Rush) that's very fast.

 

[Murlough]

I think Shadow Mewtwo would end up being a playable unlockable after completing the main story. That's how I'm seeing it based on the amiibo-card that's being advertised

That is a good point. Well, maybe we will get two Mewtwos. I'm not complaining xD.

 

[Erureido]

Braixen was a character that caught me by surprise at first, though after some thought, I'm pretty sure Braixen got in before Delphox because of its anime popularity (Serena's Braixen). Still surprised to see that it made it in before the likes of Greninja and Hawlucha, but, fiery wand attacks will be pretty interesting to see.

Standard Mewtwo and Garchomp were expected inclusions, but I'm still curious to see how they will really turn out. Standard Mewtwo will probably use Mega Mewtwo Y instead of the X Mega Evolution, while Garchomp is the first fighter in the roster that will finally take advantage of a quad-style moveset. That I am excited to try out.

Looks like middle evolution Pokemon (as well as basic stages), and perhaps Pokemon from the same evolution line might have become more likely as well; I mean, now we have two Pikachus and two Mewtwos (same Pokemon, sure, but both come from their respective evolution lines), so I don't think that's necessarily going to stop the developers from including Pokemon of the same evolution line now (Gallade comes to mind, as well as adding Pokemon like Froslass and Glalie together or two Eeveelutions).

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I'm just happy to see one of my top faves, Garchomp is playable. I can't wait to see him in action. Blaziken is an interesting choice. I expect it to be a more nimble version of how Delphox would play like.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

So here's the current ARCADE character select

So lets see, without them expanding it(which they can easily do, and may do), there's a total of 20 slots currently in the arcade version. with the currently revealed Pokemon(including the new 3), we currently have 16 known, however Shadow Mewtwo will NOT be added to the arcade version(he's a wii-u exclusive playable boss, and too unbalanced for arcade), that means we have 5 unknowns, 4 with the one being revealed tomorrow. However, that's for the arcade version, we could easily get another 3-6 characters on top of that for home release. Tekken Tag Team 2 had a number of home version exclusive characters. Also That would be extra incentive in Japan for the home version to be adopted. Also there are characters that would be perfect for the home version, even if unbalanced that'd be shunned in the arcade.

So for those counting, Arcade should have about 20 characters by the time the home version releases(or final, depending on roll-out choices), while the Home version has at least 21 characters on release, possibly more, I'd say 30's probably the upper limit, and that's being a bit giving

Also still think Blastoise is extremely likely, but his reveal is being kept for a proper timing

Also in regards to Generation representation, I think, specially in the first game it's more about what characters bring unique and cool playstyles and looks, and ya there's going to be quite a few Gen1-ers that fall into that category

 

[Puppyfaic]

Shadow Mewtwo probably will end up a non-playable version unless they give base Mewtwo his Y mega.

I'm just waiting on those gameplay trailers. ;v;

Shadow Mewtwo has already been confirmed playable.

So here's the current ARCADE character select
So lets see, without them expanding it(which they can easily do, and may do), there's a total of 20 slots currently in the arcade version. with the currently revealed Pokemon(including the new 3), we currently have 16 known, however Shadow Mewtwo will NOT be added to the arcade version(he's a wii-u exclusive playable boss, and too unbalanced for arcade), that means we have 5 unknowns, 4 with the one being revealed tomorrow. However, that's for the arcade version, we could easily get another 3-6 characters on top of that for home release. Tekken Tag Team 2 had a number of home version exclusive characters. Also That would be extra incentive in Japan for the home version to be adopted. Also there are characters that would be perfect for the home version, even if unbalanced that'd be shunned in the arcade.

I highly doubt Shadow Mewtwo will be console-exclusive. Hell, he's already in the Arcade version as a boss. TTT2's console-exclusive characters made it to the Arcades eventually, as well. All they're gonna do is nerf the playable version of Shadow Mewtwo, just like they did with Tekken's bosses.

 

[UberMadman]

By the way, do any of you guys know when the Nico Nico stream will be? I'd like to see the new character live, if possible.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Shadow Mewtwo has already been confirmed playable.



I highly doubt Shadow Mewtwo will be console-exclusive. Hell, he's already in the Arcade version as a boss. TTT2's console-exclusive characters made it to the Arcades eventually, as well. All they're gonna do is nerf the playable version of Shadow Mewtwo, just like they did with Tekken's bosses.

Ok then, he likely won't be playable until after Console release, and likely that select screen will be filled before, so I highly doubt he'll count as a slot

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I think having a balance of unique and fun characters along with generation and type representation to be very important in regards to the roster. Choices such as Blaxien, Gengar, Weavile, and Suicune seemed like strange to me at first but it was one of those "I didn't know I actually would want them until I saw them" type reactions.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Woah, so we got our first Gen V rep, and it's?! Chandelure of all things, which means yet another fire type

Also, video will be on the 31st, well hey, 3 out of four this month isn't bad

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Woah, so we got our first Gen V rep, and it's?! Chandelure of all things, which means yet another fire type

Also, video will be on the 31st, well hey, 3 out of four this month isn't bad

My mind is so blown I can't even post an obligatory Jontron reaction.

 

[Murlough]

Woah, so we got our first Gen V rep, and it's?! Chandelure of all things, which means yet another fire type

Also, video will be on the 31st, well hey, 3 out of four this month isn't bad

Wat. Is he really a new character? If so......



MAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIINNNNNNN

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Wat. Is he really a new character? If so......



MAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIINNNNNNN

Yep, and I just realized this means we now have Bipeds, Quadrapeds, and now In-animate objects that technically don't have limbs. That leaves us with 2 more types of Pokemons: Bird/flying, and Serpent style, I mean they're showing they are going with almost every style of 'Mon and really digging. Well, that and a giant style. Well I mean, what there's what about 20 or so Serpent style 'Mons? What is the most popular, main one I know of is what, Arbok? Say anyone want to pull up a list of most popular Serpent types

I mean they seem to be going full out with representing all main styles of 'mons, seems likely we'll be getting a few out of the box, both flying, serpent, and huge would work

 

[Z25]

Woah, so we got our first Gen V rep, and it's?! Chandelure of all things, which means yet another fire type

Also, video will be on the 31st, well hey, 3 out of four this month isn't bad

This also means BG pokemon can be playable. So anything is on the table now! Really happy with this addition!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

There goes the entire theory about BG characters being playable.

But..another fire and ghost related Pokemon? I was hoping we would see something a bit different. Still, Chandelure is a good choice.

 

[Aetheri]

Woah, so we got our first Gen V rep, and it's?! Chandelure of all things, which means yet another fire type

Also, video will be on the 31st, well hey, 3 out of four this month isn't bad

Wait...so Chandelure is the new reveal?

Did not see that coming...Though I'm not complaining either since Chandelure is a pretty cool poke, also opens the door to so many other potential pokes (here I was writing off Gyarados due to it's serpentine body)...

But now my Sableye and Heracross have a chance :D

 

[Erureido]

Woah, so we got our first Gen V rep, and it's?! Chandelure of all things, which means yet another fire type

Also, video will be on the 31st, well hey, 3 out of four this month isn't bad

Wow, Chandelure! One of my top 10 favorite Pokemon of all time, and my 2nd favorite generation 5 Pokemon, just made it into Pokken! Can't wait to see how it plays out; attacking with ghostly flames would be pretty cool to watch. It's very likely to be new main material as well!

I can definitely see why all those developers got salty over Chandelure though.

Well I mean, what there's what about 20 or so Serpent style 'Mons? What is the most popular, main one I know of is what, Arbok? Say anyone want to pull up a list of most popular Serpent types

Onix, Gyarados, Dragonair, Steelix, Milotic, and Serperior are the other very popular Pokemon with serpentine bodies that particularly come to mind (Serperior is especially worth noting as it was also a background Pokemon just like Chandelure, so it too just became way more likely).

 

[Murlough]

I'm super excited to see what other mons will be chosen before release now. It seems like they are really giving every mon a chance to be in.

Unfortunately people have something to complain about with the number of fire types in the game which I'm not entirely sure I disagree with. Yeah each mon offers something unique but if my favorite type weren't in at all I'd be dissappointed.

Whatever though. What we get is what we get. As far as I'm concerned Pokken is shaping up really well, outside of the controller thing, and it'll be a day one buy for me.

 

[Erureido]

Two sets of support Pokemon have also been confirmed: Croagunk and Sylveon, and Pachirisu and Magikarp

Spoiler

Watch Magikarp's attack simply involving launching itself onto the opponent for small damage or perhaps it will jump onto the opponent and start splashing on him/her to wrack up damage.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Updated my sig for Pokken hype!

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So there's four to five pokemon to go.

Seems like they're doing that thing where the ONLY poll Japanese fans, again. What other Pokemon are Pokeball Bustingly popular in Japan?

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

RENDERS!

Pretty sure these are wii-u version, some of the previous ones likely too











I wouldn't limit this by gen, rather by what characters are going to make the most unique roster for the first game. Sequel can focus a bit more on gens. Pokemon has never been about gen representation, rather that each one adds something to the legacy while keeping fan favs alive. Steelix is kinda ruled out by the fact the game is doing canon scaling, which means he's be what, the size of the arena? I think/hope we're reaching the end of the starters, I'd say that Blastoise, and maybe Greninja are likely, since the former would be siiccckkkk, but the latter is kinda teetering since it'd make good sequel bait.

Now back on Snake types, well we got Arbok, Dunspace, Seviper, and Superior (and of course the first and third have their first evolutions, but they're both kinda lame). Of the four, well Dunspace does nothing, and Arbok is essentially a classic Cobra, pretty cool, but not very complicated. I'd say Seviper would have the most interesting move-set, since it's got general serpent style moves, but also could be a wierd sorta sword fighter. Now on another forum had a fellow member suggest Gyrados, Milotic, Huntail, Gorbyss, or Eelektross, but half of those are too big(as in arena size) 2 are, kinda bland, and well Elektross has good move potential, but has Limbs which kinda beats the point. So yeah, putting my bets on Seviper.

Also, I still think Blastoise is the most likely Water starter, he's still the most iconic

 

[Aetheri]

RENDERS!

Pretty sure these are wii-u version, some of the previous ones likely too











I wouldn't limit this by gen, rather by what characters are going to make the most unique roster for the first game. Sequel can focus a bit more on gens. Pokemon has never been about gen representation, rather that each one adds something to the legacy while keeping fan favs alive. Steelix is kinda ruled out by the fact the game is doing canon scaling, which means he's be what, the size of the arena? I think/hope we're reaching the end of the starters, I'd say that Blastoise, and maybe Greninja are likely, since the former would be siiccckkkk, but the latter is kinda teetering since it'd make good sequel bait.

Now back on Snake types, well we got Arbok, Dunspace, Seviper, and Superior (and of course the first and third have their first evolutions, but they're both kinda lame). Of the four, well Dunspace does nothing, and Arbok is essentially a classic Cobra, pretty cool, but not very complicated. I'd say Seviper would have the most interesting move-set, since it's got general serpent style moves, but also could be a wierd sorta sword fighter. Now on another forum had a fellow member suggest Gyrados, Milotic, Huntail, Gorbyss, or Eelektross, but half of those are too big(as in arena size) 2 are, kinda bland, and well Elektross has good move potential, but has Limbs which kinda beats the point. So yeah, putting my bets on Seviper.

Also, I still think Blastoise is the most likely Water starter, he's still the most iconic

Why do I find it so awesome that Braixen is riding its stick like a witch's broom XD...

Anyways it does make sense that starters are getting a lot of representation since the starters tend to be amoung the most popular pokemon, coupled with the fact that they fit into a fighting game very well...there are still some solid choices left for fighters amoung the starters; Greninja, Blastoise, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Infernape, Serperior, etc...

Even still it seems as though these pokemon are being added to the roster based on two criteria; general popularity and possible uniqueness as fighters...

Still hoping Scizor will be added, and seeing as Chandelure is a thing Heracross might be a possibility also...

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Why do I find it so awesome that Braixen is riding its stick like a witch's broom XD...

Anyways it does make sense that starters are getting a lot of representation since the starters tend to be amoung the most popular pokemon, coupled with the fact that they fit into a fighting game very well...there are still some solid choices left for fighters amoung the starters; Greninja, Blastoise, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Infernape, Serperior, etc...

Even still it seems as though these pokemon are being added to the roster based on two criteria; general popularity and possible uniqueness as fighters...

Still hoping Scizor will be added, and seeing as Chandelure is a thing Heracross might be a possibility also...

Oh yeah, and we're getting a world wide release of March 18. Personally, I prefer Scyther over Scizor, but that's me. Personally I think we're reaching the end of Starters, we got at least 4 slots left for sure, I wouldn't be surprised if we got maybe another 4 hidden/boss characters for the home release. I think last Starter we're getting is Blastoise, and it's going to be revealed alongside the RED/Blue re-release... maybe around the superbowl trailer, because you can't do Charizard without Blasty

 

[Aetheri]

Oh yeah, and we're getting a world wide release of March 18. Personally, I prefer Scyther over Scizor, but that's me. Personally I think we're reaching the end of Starters, we got at least 4 slots left for sure, I wouldn't be surprised if we got maybe another 4 hidden/boss characters for the home release. I think last Starter we're getting is Blastoise, and it's going to be revealed alongside the RED/Blue re-release... maybe around the superbowl trailer, because you can't do Charizard without Blasty

Then people would miss poor Venusaur
I am hoping that we'll get at least a bug type (even if it isn't Scizor or Heracross, it just seems like it'd be a really cool addition) added to the roster as well as maybe a bird pokemon such as Pidgeot or Staraptor...

 

[Burgundy]

I personally would love Beedrill to be playable.

As for bird and serpentine Pokemon, my picks would probably be Steelix and Noivern.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Recent reveals have really amped my hype up for this game, particularly Garchomp and some time before that Sceptile. One of Venusaur, Nidoking, Pinsir or Scyther would be fantastic.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Then people would miss poor Venusaur
I am hoping that we'll get at least a bug type (even if it isn't Scizor or Heracross, it just seems like it'd be a really cool addition) added to the roster as well as maybe a bird pokemon such as Pidgeot or Staraptor...

Honestly, I don't think Gen representation is going to factor in, but I'm feeling pretty sure we'll get each Type represented(Rock, Normal, and Bug are the only ones non-repped at this point), and style(which is a bird and Snake are the only ones left). That, and while Suicune is a water type, I really think we're going to get THE water type Blastoise.
My personal hope for each is probably Rock: Golurk, Bug: Scyther... or Scizor, heck Heracross wouldn't be horrible either, Snake(well, the only feasible options are really Arbok, Serperior, and Seviper, because Gyrade, Steelix and Milotic are way to big with everything to scale, they'd be as big as the arena): I'm going with Seviper, because we only have a single Poison type, and the idea of the serpent attack style combined with sword moves seems pretty sick to me. Pretty neutral with Bird types, and well Eevee's out of the normal running, but I hear Lolpunny get thrown around a lot

 

[Chandeelure]

Honestly, I don't think Gen representation is going to factor in, but I'm feeling pretty sure we'll get each Type represented(Rock, Normal, and Bug are the only ones non-repped at this point), and style(which is a bird and Snake are the only ones left). That, and while Suicune is a water type, I really think we're going to get THE water type Blastoise.
My personal hope for each is probably Rock: Golurk, Bug: Scyther... or Scizor, heck Heracross wouldn't be horrible either, Snake(well, the only feasible options are really Arbok, Serperior, and Seviper, because Gyrade, Steelix and Milotic are way to big with everything to scale, they'd be as big as the arena): I'm going with Seviper, because we only have a single Poison type, and the idea of the serpent attack style combined with sword moves seems pretty sick to me. Pretty neutral with Bird types, and well Eevee's out of the normal running, but I hear Lolpunny get thrown around a lot

Golurk is not a Rock type.

 

[Aetheri]

Honestly, I don't think Gen representation is going to factor in, but I'm feeling pretty sure we'll get each Type represented(Rock, Normal, and Bug are the only ones non-repped at this point), and style(which is a bird and Snake are the only ones left). That, and while Suicune is a water type, I really think we're going to get THE water type Blastoise.
My personal hope for each is probably Rock: Golurk, Bug: Scyther... or Scizor, heck Heracross wouldn't be horrible either, Snake(well, the only feasible options are really Arbok, Serperior, and Seviper, because Gyrade, Steelix and Milotic are way to big with everything to scale, they'd be as big as the arena): I'm going with Seviper, because we only have a single Poison type, and the idea of the serpent attack style combined with sword moves seems pretty sick to me. Pretty neutral with Bird types, and well Eevee's out of the normal running, but I hear Lolpunny get thrown around a lot

Golurk is a ground type, though he would still be an amazing fighter and much different from Garchomp's potential playstyle...especially coupled with that ghost typing...

When it comes to Rock types I can see pokes like Tyranitar, Rhyperior (or even Rhydon), Aggron, Terrakion, Kabutops, Tyrantrum, and even Golem being potentially awesome fighters...Barbaracle would be pretty cool too...maybe Aerodactyl...

Serpentine fighters are not a guarantee, however Serperior, Milotic and Gyarados would probably be the best choices, though Seviper and Arbok would be neat as well...I don't think size is going to be too much of an issue unless we are getting to Wailord or some legends...Gyarados and Miltoic for example are well serpentine and wouldn't really take THAT much room especially if they are coiled...a large sized pokemon fighter would be pretty neat though...and if the gameplay remains one on one then size won't really be THAT detrimental imo...

imo Lopunny's a frontrunner for normal types...She's decently popular, has a mega form (with a convenient typing), and would work very well in this game...also adds another feminine fighter not that it is actually needed, but for diversity's sake...
Other possibilities I feel would be Snorlax, maybe Jigglypuff (though Smash may not be enough for this game but we'll see), maybe Meowth, Ambipom, Ursaring would be an interesting choice, Exploud would be neat, Audino, Diggersby...and of course some bird pokemon like Pidgeot and Staraptor who are also normal types...

Personally...I wouldn't mind seeing more dragons either like Salamance or Haxorus...of course Dragons my favourite type so the more dragons the better

One thing I do wonder...after the console version gets released does anyone think we may get additional DLC added later? I could very well be a high possibility, especially if the game does well upon release which it likely will...don't want to speculate who will be added as DLC since the main roster isn't even fully revealed yet...

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Aetheri DLC's possible, and the coding is setup for it, but there'll be limits, on the other hand they could want this to be ever-green for a year like Splatoon, so who knows.

Also, fun fact, everyone's focused on how Harada's Co-producing it, him being the main Tekken guy and all, but have any of you noticed who the other co-produce(and his team) is? It's Hoshino the head of Project Soul, and they are likely in charge of the Console version's unique features, which if Soulcalibur 1-4 are any indicator could wind up being really really good, if we get a story mode, and a mission mode of some sort, whether campaign or tower style could really give this game some meat

 

[MasterOfKnees]

If the remaining types have to be included I think Snorlax is the front runner for Normal-types, it's by far the most iconic Normal-type and could have a pretty interesting moveset. Either that or Chansey/Blissey with a healing moveset, actually looking at how few 2nd Gen Pokémon there are Blissey would be an excellent choice.

There are plenty of Rock-type options, Rhydon is certainly iconic for being the first programmed Pokémon and wouldn't be hard to make a moveset for, same goes for the likes of Tyranitar and Aggron who even have mega evolutions. Of course there also are the many different fossil Pokémon like Aerodactyl, Cradily, Armaldo, Tyrantrum or dare I say Omastar? Archeops would actually be really interesting if they can translate its Defeatist ability into the game, you'd have to try to burst your opponent down as early as possible or you'll have a really tough time.

For Bug-types it's a bit more clear, if they include one it'll almost certainly be one of Pinsir, Scyther, Scizor or Heracross, they're by far and wide the most popular Bug-types and three of them also have mega evolutions.