JakkPlaysGames
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So. Pokemon Trainer is back in SSBU. I feel like he will be top tier. There's so much potential with the new switching mechanics. Let's talk about it.
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As long as all of them are at least mid tier individually, then I would tend to agree with that statement all depends on how much better Ivy is in this game.So. Pokemon Trainer is back in SSBU. I feel like he will be top tier. There's so much potential with the new switching mechanics. Let's talk about it.
It got significantly nerfed, which makes sense since it was pretty broken before.Did bullet seed get buffed in any way? I mean its not that important of a move but its one of my favorite moves of his
howIt got significantly nerfed, which makes sense since it was pretty broken before.
It was a frame 4 move that hit both sides, with 1-3f invincibility that reliably did 30% at least. You'd get punished for it on hit usually but the damage you get out of it was oh so worth it.
It has a finisher now which makes it much safer on hit, and its still a decent anti air at leastIt was a frame 4 move that hit both sides, with 1-3f invincibility that reliably did 30% at least. You'd get punished for it on hit usually but the damage you get out of it was oh so worth it.
It's frame 7 now, doesn't have invincibility it looks like and doesn't deal the same amount of damage.
ye but its at least a semi-competent anti air now, if its range is anything like brawl then nothing will be able to beat it out unless the move has super armorIt was busted and fun. Now it's boring. :[
You should make a thread about ZeRo discussing Pokemon Trainer. That way we can all talk about Pokemon Trainer upon further analysis...Since they realized the stamina mechanic was silly, I'd imagine they realized the type advantage mechanic was too. Ivy's recovery was buffed by virtue of edgehogging not existing, so it's not as bad. But other than that, we'll have to see how it plays out. (Though disjointed jab and dtilt with dash-canceling should at least be...not terrible.)
Pokemon Trainer will be useful so long as just one of the Pokemon is good (probably Squirtle) since you don't lose anything from not switching. However, Charizard and Squirtle should, like, in theory compliment each other. Hard to see where Ivysaur might fit in.
If, hypothetically, they were all similarly good, then I'd use Ivysaur for when I need disjoints, since one of Squirtle's weaknesses is its lack of range. Basically, most of my neutral-ing would involve Ivysaur instead of Squirtle in those cases, maybe. Having large disjoints is where it'll probably be able to compliment the other two, assuming it isn't a terrible character.
But even if Ivysaur is still bad, it's not as big a deal as in Brawl because you aren't punished for not using it. You just need to be able to find the time to switch off of it.
he canI like that Ivysaur can now aim his Razor Leaf instead of it being random.
I believe I heard somewhere that he can.he can
he definitely canhe can
It's possible that the three pokes will have their own slots in ADDITION to PT's (though Brawl's didn't do this, so don't get your hopes up), but I find it very unlikely that PT won't have their own slot, particularly if they really are near the top.I just hope he is separated into the 3 Pokemon on the tier list.