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Pokemon Trainer (Red!) Discussion
- Thread starter Yukiwarashi
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Gerudo Warrior
Smash Master
yes or he does something in the background
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
9 taunts is a bit much.
It would be so awesome if PT's real special gimmick ability turned out to be the ability to taunt and battle at the same time!
*Charizard uses his Flamethrower against a row of enemies*
PT, waving his arms in the background: "Ha-hah! How does THAT feel, you ****ers! Who's ya daddy! WHO'S YA DADDY!"
*Charizard uses his Flamethrower against a row of enemies*
PT, waving his arms in the background: "Ha-hah! How does THAT feel, you ****ers! Who's ya daddy! WHO'S YA DADDY!"
SonicMario
Smash Master
Too bad it would be the Pokemon taunting. If PT was taunting, people should use lame lines from Ash from the Anime. See how much THAT annoys your foe.
RoxasXIII
Smash Journeyman
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geez, pt brings up a lotta problems. first of all, isn't weird that the pt throws out squirtle, but then squirtle can pick up and throw a pokball?! that defies the laws of nature! is there a neverending chain of pokemon throwing pokeballs!?!?!?!
if he loses during stock mode, i dont think he could throw his pokeball at whoever is out to return it, cuz what if they were knocked off the stage? i guess he could hold his pokeball out and have that red laser light animation at what ever direction the pokemon went. and that box thing at the bottom could show up and it would say something like "PKMN Trainer whited out!".
or they could do something from battle revolution where the trainer says some cheesy default line.
another thing, after he calls his pokemon back or whatever, the screen will fade black fro like, half a second and the trainer will be gone, like they do in the games when you white out.
also, the pt is the red from firered and leafgreen. different from the ones in the original red,blue, and yellow. also in yellow version, when professor oak asks for your name in the beginning, ash is a default name.
if he loses during stock mode, i dont think he could throw his pokeball at whoever is out to return it, cuz what if they were knocked off the stage? i guess he could hold his pokeball out and have that red laser light animation at what ever direction the pokemon went. and that box thing at the bottom could show up and it would say something like "PKMN Trainer whited out!".
or they could do something from battle revolution where the trainer says some cheesy default line.
another thing, after he calls his pokemon back or whatever, the screen will fade black fro like, half a second and the trainer will be gone, like they do in the games when you white out.
also, the pt is the red from firered and leafgreen. different from the ones in the original red,blue, and yellow. also in yellow version, when professor oak asks for your name in the beginning, ash is a default name.
Mr. Sunny Patch
Smash Journeyman
I wonder what Charizard's A moves and throws will be like. Anyone have any ideas?
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
mostly likely claw slashes and bites/chomps
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
i dunno i picture chars f smash to be a headbutt ala bowser
RoxasXIII
Smash Journeyman
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charizard's? what about ivysaur's? he's on all four of his limbs. and i'd imagine it must be hard to grab someone and pick them up like that.
doh! never mind. i'm an idiot. vine whip
ShoTTa
Smash Cadet
Pokemon Trainer is going to be a very ******** character. He's going to ruin Brawl. I hope they have all 400-something (4?? whatever the number is) pokemon in all the pokeball items though.
tirkaro
Smash Champion
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
explain why please
bigman40
Smash Master
OOOkay. We ALL know that all 400 pokemon WON'T be in the pokeballs, and I think that most people like how PT has to be played (opens up many strats). Don't down the series because of a statement you can't back up, or because you don't like the character.
ShoTTa
Smash Cadet
I guess ******** is kind of an overstatement. He's actually not that bad, it's just weird that he is in Smash bros. For instance, it's obvious that there may be pauses between switching pokemon which isn't fair to other characters, it's also obvious that changing can create massive stalling for levels such as Norfair, and what if you ARE off the map? Can you just press Down + B to switch out and automatically be back on the map? If so that would be straight up unfair. The pokemon Trainer himself does nothing back post up in the background. If Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard where to be added, they might as well be added as there own individual characters. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and that was mine.
ShoTTa
Smash Cadet
I'm not really downing the series although I did say "it's going to ruin brawl". The entire Smash Bros series has been my reason for gaming for a while now. Melee has always been my favorite game of all time. But I guess you're right, he does open up a lot of strategies, but truly, I dislike the idea of pokemon trainer's stalling. It's going to be cheap. I hope I'm wrong about how down + B will create massive stalling. If not, Pkmn Trainer just justifies how much of a cheap character he can be.
bigman40
Smash Master
Most likely that was going to be noticed. Remember that you could hit Zelda when she was transforming? It's most likely going to be the same thing, and the off the map thing. I doubt that the pokemon will pause in the air to switch out. They will gradually fall as they switch out. So I don't see it bad.
tirkaro
Smash Champion
in case you haven't noticed, thats not at all how pkmn trainer (seems) to work. When he switches pokemon, he switches in real time. notice this screenshot:
see, that little cloud of light seems to be the remains of pokemon that got returned. Note how red throws the ball AT THE SAME TIME when it's returned, meaning that the change has very little to no invincibility frames (or pausing, whatever you meant) since the change is instant.
and its pretty darn obvious that red throws the ball to the exact same location where the last pokemon was. meaning the next pokemon wont retun back on stage. Thats pretty obvious game design logic.
ShoTTa
Smash Cadet
Well, you're right about being switched in the same spot but there is still a definite pause which looks like it ranges from 1/2 a sec to 2 secs. And you said it your self that the changing is instant, meaning that anyone could just rapidly change to stall on hazardous maps as I said before, like on Norfair. BUT, if there are pauses between CHANGING and RETURNING pokemon such as, each time you press down+b you have to wait a minimum of 2 seconds to press down+b again, then I guess PKMN Trainer won't be as cheap as I thought. Well hey thanks for acknowledging my thoughts about this characterin case you haven't noticed, thats not at all how pkmn trainer (seems) to work. When he switches pokemon, he switches in real time. notice this screenshot:
see, that little cloud of light seems to be the remains of pokemon that got returned. Note how red throws the ball AT THE SAME TIME when it's returned, meaning that the change has very little to no invincibility frames (or pausing, whatever you meant) since the change is instant.
and its pretty darn obvious that red throws the ball to the exact same location where the last pokemon was. meaning the next pokemon wont retun back on stage. Thats pretty obvious game design logic.
. I wasn't really open minded to him. But hey I gotta say f u c k you for insinuating that I am stupid in your recent post.sonic smash down
Smash Lord
true that it will have invincibility frames but think of bowser's down b which gives him a couple of frames himself and since the pokemon are in order and you can't really swich to the one you want out who says its cheap when you could be bringing out a pokemon thats going to die if you swich him out. Im also betting there is a time frame from which you can swich out the pokemon again so it doesnt count as cheap. Wonder how he's going to fit with the story??
tirkaro
Smash Champion
dont worry, I do it to everyone
::FalcoFTW::
Smash Apprentice
If the pokemon looses on the last stock, it doesn't comeback like any other characater, Pokemon Trainer doesn't really need to return the pokemon to it's pokeball, seems like that'd be awkward. And I imagine when pokemon trainer looses all his stock, he'll take a defeated, kneeling down pose. Likely with his hand over his face and nods and then fade out like a Nana that lost Popo.
ripman3
Smash Journeyman
quick question,
Can we assume that ivysaur's B^ has the same effects on the ground to enemies above him as Zero Suit Samus's B^ does? Or do you think that it will do more of an actual whip attack?
Can we assume that ivysaur's B^ has the same effects on the ground to enemies above him as Zero Suit Samus's B^ does? Or do you think that it will do more of an actual whip attack?
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
Maybe more of Zamus B> because ivysaur's regular B is like Zamus B^.
ripman3
Smash Journeyman
really? i thought Zamus B^ pulled enemies down with her whip while ivysaur just shoot a vertical projectile
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
Oh yeah i just checked the Dojo and I was wrong.
Kirbynator23
Smash Apprentice
That would never work. We already have pokemon trainer. Puting in red would be like taking away pokemon trainers pokemon
Pluvia's other account
Smash Master
I have been deciding, and Squirtle's B Move really needs to be Bubble(Beam). It could do damage, and would look really cool striking an opponent. And Water Gun wouldn't do any damage, just knockback, so it would basically be a F.L.U.D.D. clone.
So that's why I really want Bubble(Beam) instead of Water Gun.
So that's why I really want Bubble(Beam) instead of Water Gun.
Yukiwarashi
Smash Champion
PSIguy89
Smash Ace
i just call PT Red....thats pretty much who he is anyway......Sakurai must have his reasons for calling him "Pokemon Trainer"
Pluvia's other account
Smash Master
I don't see the problem with calling him Red, seeing as though he clearly is Red.
the_Capt_Falcon_Master
Smash Lord
eh who knows mabye they just wanted him to be a generic trainer, hence the name.
PSIguy89
Smash Ace
The only reason i can find is that in all the games it was important that YOU named the trainer....most of them didn't have pre-set names, like in all the ones after red/blue/yellow (to my knowledge anyway)
tirkaro
Smash Champion
Perhaps you should change the first page so that
wagnerelli
Smash Apprentice
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sonic smash- It's pretty obvious that PT will not be able to switch out Pokemon in mid-air. They are likely to have to be on the ground when you switch. In the air, it's the Pokemon's job to get back on the stage.
Lawrencelot
Smash Lord
I pictured it it this way: you can switch out pokemon everywhere, both on the ground and in the air, but the new pokemon just appears on the same spot where the previous one was, whether it was in the air or not. So it might be good to use downB for recovery, but not if the move has some endlag.
ripman3
Smash Journeyman
I'm betting u can switch out everywhere, but you will lose momentum and speed like zelda/shiek.
sonic smash down
Smash Lord
exactly zelda and shiek can switch in air y can't pt do it to of course the pokemon will lose momentum and be in the same place as the last pk
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
i think its cool that they added Red or ash whatever you wanna call him into SSB and ill definitly use him if not main him just because he'll be low popularity 