PM Arts and Alts Thread

[Friesnchip]

Question: Since the Alt Costume Engine has the ability to alter effects specifically to one particular costume, would it now be possible to change Sonic's blur effects to match the various color options?

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Nope. Awakening's Marth is in no way mentioned in Brawl, IE: More Nope.
Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm always up for Awakening and it's character design, but it's just not open without the red flag of a C&D. And I would take a Lucina/Awakening Marth, Awakening Ike, and Awaking Roy without hesitation if they weren't such a risk to even mention, especially when you consider Project M's general notability among Nintendo Mods.


I'm not mixing words, it's Project M's policy to respect the registered properties of Nintendo, regardless of form, whether it be characters, trophies, etc. Anything that is featured in Brawl, or has valid reference in some way, is fair game. But, this is not applied to games as recent as Awakening, or anything past/not mentioned in Brawl.

For the Clone Engine only.

Dr. Mario wasn't in Brawl. His song may have been in there, but that's it. (I don't remember if he had a sticker or not, though.) Also, at the end of the trailer, there are silhouettes of what are most likely Dark Peach, Mr. L, Party Hat Pikachu and a crowned Jigglypuff. The last two may have been in previous Smash games, they aren't at all in Brawl, and Dark Peach and Mr. L aren't in the game at all either.

As such, what you said is clearly not the case.

 

[B.W.]

While what your saying makes sense Raccoon, I don't see there being too much of a problem with using alts from future games.

I'd love to here the PMBR's word on this though.

 

[blerb]

For the Clone Engine only.

Dr. Mario wasn't in Brawl. His song may have been in there, but that's it. (I don't remember if he had a sticker or not, though.) Also, at the end of the trailer, there are silhouettes of what are most likely Dark Peach, Mr. L, Party Hat Pikachu and a crowned Jigglypuff. The last two may have been in previous Smash games, they aren't at all in Brawl, and Dark Peach and Mr. L aren't in the game at all either.

As such, what you said is clearly not the case.

Check the stickers in Brawl. Im sure the Doc, Mr. L and Dark Peach are all there somewhere. Jiggs and Pikachu are irrelevant, and Outset Link has a trophy.

The entire matter is a grey area anyway, considering Skyloft and all...

 

[Mormon Mammoth]

Just to check; pikachu's party hats are coming in different colors like in the N64, right?

 

[Little Nemo]

Just to check; pikachu's party hats are coming in different colors like in the N64, right?

I don't think we know yet. I hope so.

 

[Mormon Mammoth]

I don't think we know yet. I hope so.

I mean, they would be so easy to do... they have to be...

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Check the stickers in Brawl. Im sure the Doc, Mr. L and Dark Peach are all there somewhere. Jiggs and Pikachu are irrelevant, and Outset Link has a trophy.

The entire matter is a grey area anyway, considering Skyloft and all...

I didn't mention Outset Link for that particular reason, if you read my post. XD

But I went and looked at everything single sticker in the game.

Doc does have a sticker, but Dark Peach and Mr. L do not.

 

[red9rd]

There needs to be a Heisenberg costume for Snake. Make the grenades Mercury fulminate and the parachute have a Los pollos logo!

I did someone say Walter White in Brawl?

 

[Wiisnake]

I just remembered, please do a blood falcon alt for Captain Falcon that actually changes the emblem on the helmet as well!

 

[QQQQQQQ7777777]

Would Pichu just count as a younger Pikachu? There are speculations saying that Pichu from Melee is the Pikachu from brawl.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

It's funny that the things likely being added by the alternate costume engine, like doctor Mario, and Mr. L, are things I already use in my setup. Those are what my Mario and Luigi look like right now.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

I know the common thing to discuss regarding Link is Twilight and Melee costumes, but has anyone considered bringing back....this?

Spoiler

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I dunno, but Toon Link would be pretty sweet if they fixed up this up for his alternate

I think it looks pretty fantastic, but as it is, he's not rigged very well and his feet are inside the ground all the time. If they could fix it up and make it work, I think it'd look great.

 

[B.W.]

When I was thinking of costumes before and replacing colors I disliked with them I always tried to make sure the costume was actually related to the character.

This is a list of what I think would be awesome for these characters.

Spoiler

Bowser
The costume I had for Bowser was this Dry Bowser: http://infinitesmashteam.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/al_130202_13473-bin-out.jpg

Cool costume, everything worked and you could see through the bones when he went in his shell. Something along these lines would be awesome for Bowser.

Captain Falcon
I didn't really have anything in mind for the good Captain. Best I could think of is him with his helmet off. Kinda boring, but I'm unsure of what else you could do for him without changing the character.

Charizard
For Charizard I was originally thinking of having his alt be his clone from Mewtwo Strikes Back. But now, how could anyone say no to Charizard X? http://pokebeach.com/news/1013/mega-charizard-x-4.png

Blue fire effects and all.

Of course Charizard Y is also cool. http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Mega_Charizard-X-and-Y.jpg

Diddy Kong
Diddy is hard. He's never really dressed up as anything else. Maybe having him dress up as another Donkey Kong character would work? Best I could think of is Chunky Kong or Funky Kong.

Donkey Kong
Kinda the same as Diddy. Dressing up as a different Donkey Kong character could work. Funky Kong or Swanky Kong. Eh...

Falco
A lot of people want Fox and Falco to have their Melee appearances back probably, but imo that's kind of boring. Instead I was looking for Falco in his StarFox Assault outfit: http://evolveent.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/star-fox-assault-falco-lombardi-concept-art.jpg

I feel his Melee outfit is too close to his current one in a lot of cases. If Blue Falco and Blue Alternate Falco can be confused with each other in any way then I don't think it would be a very good alternate costume. This is a lot more interested of a choice, imo.

Fox
Same thing. StarFox Assault: http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sas03_thumb.jpg

But keep his Brawl face. A lot of people prefer the long snout... Personally I don't get it.

Mr. Game & Watch
Uh... He could wear a hat?

Ganondorf
For Ganondorf I was torn because I wanted the characters to have alternate costumes based on their games. Problem was that Ganondorf never looked like anything else aside from him changing into his beast form.
I eventually just made him Melee Ganondorf (the literal Melee skin), though I didn't like it much. I do think it'd be awesome to have a Brawl style Ganondorf (face and build) in his outfit from Melee though seeing as how Ganondorf from Ocarina of Time and Ganondorf From Twilight Princess are still the same character so it's quite acceptable to do this when you think about it.
Ice Climbers
Put Nana in front for 4+ colors? Or better yet, put their hoods down... That'd be weird though.
Ike
I had this Vanguard Ike: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/MastaKrapps/SSBB Images/VanguardIke1.jpg
Cool costume, fits him well, didn't change any of his proportions, so all of the hitboxes were the right places.
Alternatively, Awakening Ike would work out (and, in my opinion, would be preferred): http://operationrainfall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Screen-shot-2012-07-19-at-13.12.19.png
Ivysaur
Like Charizard, I was looking to add a Mewtwo Strikes Back inspired alternate. Of course Ivysaur was never in that movie, but Venusaur was.
Another possibility is something based on one of Venusaur's X or Y transformations.
Jigglypuff
Put these back in: http://i.imgur.com/64Jq32e.jpg?1
King Dedede
Give him is mask and hammer from Super Star Ultra: http://images.wikia.com/kirby/en/images/9/9f/Masked_Dedede_Hammer_Spin.gif
Kirby
Kirby's hats he gets from other characters kind of ruins whatever he could use for an actual alternate costume. However Squeak Squad has more possible colors available: http://wikirby.com/wiki/Spray_Paint
Link
His villager costume. There's really no need to make him have an OoT Link costume, it's literally the same thing minus a few details. Let's have a real alternate costume.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/b/bf/FarmerLink.png
Lucario
How could you say no to Mega Lucario? http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18whbioqb5wf9jpg/original.jpg
Lucas
I had the Masked Man that was made for Ness put over Lucas: http://i.imgur.com/Fqa3d.jpg
It was easily my favorite alternate costume that I had. Why it wasn't made for Lucas to begin with I don't know. The stick was even changed to be a sword. So awesome.
Luigi
Mr. L: http://images.wikia.com/fantendo/images/d/d1/Mr_L.jpg
You really can't not have Mr. L for Luigi's alternate costume.
Mario
I had Doctor Mario. It only makes sense. Even PMBR knows.
Marth
I had Awakening Marth. A lot of people that saw it when I'd bring my setup to places loved it too.
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o573/ShunOne/Marth/al_130217_1456binout_zps93f72e48.jpg
Meta Knight
I had planned to use a Galacta Knight skin over Meta Knight: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs42/f/2009/165/9/4/Brawl_Boss__Galacta_Knight_by_hextupleyoodot.jpg
But someone mentioned Beta Meta Knight: http://images.wikia.com/kirby/en/images/8/8e/Tumblr_m7xuylJqjO1ra4czto1_500.jpg
I think Beta Knight would be a lot cooler.
Ness
Either pajama Ness: http://mmii.info/_ign/33037.gif
Or Robot Ness: http://mmii.info/icons/Koole321/eb_nessRobot.gif
Robot Ness isn't as easy to recognize though.
Olimar
I seriously have no idea. I'm completely stumped. I wouldn't want him to become another character in the Pikmin series, that's just weird to me. But as far as an alternate costume goes, I can't think of anything.
Peach
It's speculated that she'll get a Shadow Queen costume. Seems appropriate as any other costume she wears doesn't really have her in a dress and thanks to a few things (attacks hitboxes, etc) it'd be weird not to have it.
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/6/63/Shadow_queen.PNG
Pikachu
Bring back these: http://i.imgur.com/myD0Jtz.jpg
Also, for another red colored alternate why not give him this? http://i.imgur.com/ZJmtfNk.jpg
Pit
Pit with the Three Sacred Treasures: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/_...us/images/d/db/Pit_Three_Sacred_Treasures.png
Though personally I would remove the shield from this costume, and obviously make the bow smaller (it wasn't even that big in the game anyway).
R.O.B.
An Ancient Minister costume would be cool: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080722000120/ssb/images/7/70/Ancient_Minister_Trophy.jpg
Though difficult considering how different R.O.B. looks underneath it. Otherwise, extra colors would probably have to do.
Roy
Can't go wrong with Awakening Roy: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130503001036/fireemblem/images/2/2f/DlcRoyKakusei.jpg
I'm sure pretty much every person here wants to play as Roy in this costume too.
Samus
Pick a suit. Any suit.
Sheik/Zelda
Sheik and Zelda is a toughy. There has literally never been any other Sheik aside from the one in OoT. And there's not much to pull from with Twilight Princess Zelda. Personally, I wouldn't want to see OoT Sheik/Zelda return. They're from different games and are different incarnations of the characters.
There are a few roads that could be taken with an alternate Sheik/Zelda costume. Honestly I think it would be a neat idea if they removed Sheik's mask and hat showing Zelda's face (while still having Sheik's hairstyle, while Zelda wore her cloak with the hood up in Twilight Princess: http://zeldawiki.org/images/e/e3/Cloaked_Zelda.png
Of course the cloak would be thrown back showing the rest of Zelda's normal dress, but it'd kind of be a neat way to reverse things.
Snake
I'm not a huge MGS fan, and I also have looked and not found much on Snake as far as alternate costumes could go. There's Old Snake, but for Snake I really have no idea.
Sonic
Excuse me for a second to say **** Shadow, **** Metal, and **** Super Sonic.
Sonic has had an alternate costume before in Sonic Adventure 2 that looked very much like a race car driver suit
http://www.sonic-cult.org/imagebin/sa2_costumes1.jpg
Considering the fact that Sonic started on Nintendo with SA2B and considering the fact that this is basically the only other reasonable costume (aside from maybe Super Sonic which would be silly to do with alternate colors) that keeps Sonic himself while also actually being an alternate costume.
Squirtle
See Ivysaur. Also glasses were my original idea, but they became an easter egg.
Toon Link
I had an Outset Link costume for him. Can't imagine it'll look better than the one the PMBR makes though.
Wario
You greedy *******.
Wolf
StarFox Assault: http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sas09.jpg
Yoshi
MORE. COLORS.



Zero Suit Samus
I had a Justin Bailey Samus from Zero Mission: http://images.wikia.com/metroid/images/0/01/Metroidzero06.png
I have no idea where the model I used is anymore though...

Also I have no idea why this forum hates when I try to separate stuff for organization purposes. It's a pain, but oh well.

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

When I was thinking of costumes before and replacing colors I disliked with them I always tried to make sure the costume was actually related to the character.

This is a list of what I think would be awesome for these characters.

Spoiler

Bowser
The costume I had for Bowser was this Dry Bowser: http://infinitesmashteam.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/al_130202_13473-bin-out.jpg

Cool costume, everything worked and you could see through the bones when he went in his shell. Something along these lines would be awesome for Bowser.

Captain Falcon
I didn't really have anything in mind for the good Captain. Best I could think of is him with his helmet off. Kinda boring, but I'm unsure of what else you could do for him without changing the character.

Charizard
For Charizard I was originally thinking of having his alt be his clone from Mewtwo Strikes Back. But now, how could anyone say no to Charizard X? http://pokebeach.com/news/1013/mega-charizard-x-4.png

Blue fire effects and all.

Of course Charizard Y is also cool. http://nintendo3dsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Mega_Charizard-X-and-Y.jpg

Diddy Kong
Diddy is hard. He's never really dressed up as anything else. Maybe having him dress up as another Donkey Kong character would work? Best I could think of is Chunky Kong or Funky Kong.

Donkey Kong
Kinda the same as Diddy. Dressing up as a different Donkey Kong character could work. Funky Kong or Swanky Kong. Eh...

Falco
A lot of people want Fox and Falco to have their Melee appearances back probably, but imo that's kind of boring. Instead I was looking for Falco in his StarFox Assault outfit: http://evolveent.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/star-fox-assault-falco-lombardi-concept-art.jpg

I feel his Melee outfit is too close to his current one in a lot of cases. If Blue Falco and Blue Alternate Falco can be confused with each other in any way then I don't think it would be a very good alternate costume. This is a lot more interested of a choice, imo.

Fox
Same thing. StarFox Assault: http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sas03_thumb.jpg

But keep his Brawl face. A lot of people prefer the long snout... Personally I don't get it.

Mr. Game & Watch
Uh... He could wear a hat?

Ganondorf
For Ganondorf I was torn because I wanted the characters to have alternate costumes based on their games. Problem was that Ganondorf never looked like anything else aside from him changing into his beast form.
I eventually just made him Melee Ganondorf (the literal Melee skin), though I didn't like it much. I do think it'd be awesome to have a Brawl style Ganondorf (face and build) in his outfit from Melee though seeing as how Ganondorf from Ocarina of Time and Ganondorf From Twilight Princess are still the same character so it's quite acceptable to do this when you think about it.
Ice Climbers
Put Nana in front for 4+ colors? Or better yet, put their hoods down... That'd be weird though.
Ike
I had this Vanguard Ike: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/MastaKrapps/SSBB Images/VanguardIke1.jpg
Cool costume, fits him well, didn't change any of his proportions, so all of the hitboxes were the right places.
Alternatively, Awakening Ike would work out (and, in my opinion, would be preferred): http://operationrainfall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Screen-shot-2012-07-19-at-13.12.19.png
Ivysaur
Like Charizard, I was looking to add a Mewtwo Strikes Back inspired alternate. Of course Ivysaur was never in that movie, but Venusaur was.
Another possibility is something based on one of Venusaur's X or Y transformations.
Jigglypuff
Put these back in: http://i.imgur.com/64Jq32e.jpg?1
King Dedede
Give him is mask and hammer from Super Star Ultra: http://images.wikia.com/kirby/en/images/9/9f/Masked_Dedede_Hammer_Spin.gif
Kirby
Kirby's hats he gets from other characters kind of ruins whatever he could use for an actual alternate costume. However Squeak Squad has more possible colors available: http://wikirby.com/wiki/Spray_Paint
Link
His villager costume. There's really no need to make him have an OoT Link costume, it's literally the same thing minus a few details. Let's have a real alternate costume.
http://www.zeldawiki.org/images/b/bf/FarmerLink.png
Lucario
How could you say no to Mega Lucario? http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18whbioqb5wf9jpg/original.jpg
Lucas
I had the Masked Man that was made for Ness put over Lucas: http://i.imgur.com/Fqa3d.jpg
It was easily my favorite alternate costume that I had. Why it wasn't made for Lucas to begin with I don't know. The stick was even changed to be a sword. So awesome.
Luigi
Mr. L: http://images.wikia.com/fantendo/images/d/d1/Mr_L.jpg
You really can't not have Mr. L for Luigi's alternate costume.
Mario
I had Doctor Mario. It only makes sense. Even PMBR knows.
Marth
I had Awakening Marth. A lot of people that saw it when I'd bring my setup to places loved it too.
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o573/ShunOne/Marth/al_130217_1456binout_zps93f72e48.jpg
Meta Knight
I had planned to use a Galacta Knight skin over Meta Knight: http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs42/f/2009/165/9/4/Brawl_Boss__Galacta_Knight_by_hextupleyoodot.jpg
But someone mentioned Beta Meta Knight: http://images.wikia.com/kirby/en/images/8/8e/Tumblr_m7xuylJqjO1ra4czto1_500.jpg
I think Beta Knight would be a lot cooler.
Ness
Either pajama Ness: http://mmii.info/_ign/33037.gif
Or Robot Ness: http://mmii.info/icons/Koole321/eb_nessRobot.gif
Robot Ness isn't as easy to recognize though.
Olimar
I seriously have no idea. I'm completely stumped. I wouldn't want him to become another character in the Pikmin series, that's just weird to me. But as far as an alternate costume goes, I can't think of anything.
Peach
It's speculated that she'll get a Shadow Queen costume. Seems appropriate as any other costume she wears doesn't really have her in a dress and thanks to a few things (attacks hitboxes, etc) it'd be weird not to have it.
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/6/63/Shadow_queen.PNG
Pikachu
Bring back these: http://i.imgur.com/myD0Jtz.jpg
Also, for another red colored alternate why not give him this? http://i.imgur.com/ZJmtfNk.jpg
Pit
Pit with the Three Sacred Treasures: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/_...us/images/d/db/Pit_Three_Sacred_Treasures.png
Though personally I would remove the shield from this costume, and obviously make the bow smaller (it wasn't even that big in the game anyway).
R.O.B.
An Ancient Minister costume would be cool: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080722000120/ssb/images/7/70/Ancient_Minister_Trophy.jpg
Though difficult considering how different R.O.B. looks underneath it. Otherwise, extra colors would probably have to do.
Roy
Can't go wrong with Awakening Roy: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130503001036/fireemblem/images/2/2f/DlcRoyKakusei.jpg
I'm sure pretty much every person here wants to play as Roy in this costume too.
Samus
Pick a suit. Any suit.
Sheik/Zelda
Sheik and Zelda is a toughy. There has literally never been any other Sheik aside from the one in OoT. And there's not much to pull from with Twilight Princess Zelda. Personally, I wouldn't want to see OoT Sheik/Zelda return. They're from different games and are different incarnations of the characters.
There are a few roads that could be taken with an alternate Sheik/Zelda costume. Honestly I think it would be a neat idea if they removed Sheik's mask and hat showing Zelda's face (while still having Sheik's hairstyle, while Zelda wore her cloak with the hood up in Twilight Princess: http://zeldawiki.org/images/e/e3/Cloaked_Zelda.png
Of course the cloak would be thrown back showing the rest of Zelda's normal dress, but it'd kind of be a neat way to reverse things.
Snake
I'm not a huge MGS fan, and I also have looked and not found much on Snake as far as alternate costumes could go. There's Old Snake, but for Snake I really have no idea.
Sonic
Excuse me for a second to say **** Shadow, **** Metal, and **** Super Sonic.
Sonic has had an alternate costume before in Sonic Adventure 2 that looked very much like a race car driver suit
http://www.sonic-cult.org/imagebin/sa2_costumes1.jpg
Considering the fact that Sonic started on Nintendo with SA2B and considering the fact that this is basically the only other reasonable costume (aside from maybe Super Sonic which would be silly to do with alternate colors) that keeps Sonic himself while also actually being an alternate costume.
Squirtle
See Ivysaur. Also glasses were my original idea, but they became an easter egg.
Toon Link
I had an Outset Link costume for him. Can't imagine it'll look better than the one the PMBR makes though.
Wario
You greedy *******.
Wolf
StarFox Assault: http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/sas09.jpg
Yoshi
MORE. COLORS.



Zero Suit Samus
I had a Justin Bailey Samus from Zero Mission: http://images.wikia.com/metroid/images/0/01/Metroidzero06.png
I have no idea where the model I used is anymore though...

Also I have no idea why this forum hates when I try to separate stuff for organization purposes. It's a pain, but oh well.

I'd completely forgotten about Sonic's SA2 Battle costume. That should definitely be what his alt is.

 

[Cubelarooso]

I know the common thing to discuss regarding Link is Twilight and Melee costumes, but has anyone considered bringing back....this?

Spoiler

I'd love to see multiple Link alternates, but I'd expect some killjoys to whine if there were more than two green colors.
I'd personally just ignore them, but there's also the option of giving ALttP Link his full-powered, red mail.

The same argument doesn't really apply against multiple Zelda's, but Sheik'd require some creativity (which sounds fun to me).

On that subject, Outset Link has already been para-confirmed, and everyone seems to be assuming him regardless, but I'd prefer the only other Link to have similar chimproportions (but not the same design):

Spoiler

 

[Time/SpaceMage]

Squirtle could wear a scarf like in the Mystery Dungeon games. It'd be an easy way to show his team color, too.

Spoiler

 

[Pwnz0rz Man]

I'd love to see multiple Link alternates, but I'd expect some killjoys to whine if there were more than two green colors.
I'd personally just ignore them, but there's also the option of giving ALttP Link his full-powered, red mail.

The same argument doesn't really apply against multiple Zelda's, but Sheik'd require some creativity (which sounds fun to me).

On that subject, Outset Link has already been para-confirmed, and everyone seems to be assuming him regardless, but I'd prefer the only other Link to have similar chimproportions (but not the same design):

Spoiler

Yeah, I have no idea what they'd do with Sheik and alternate costumes since there's really only the OOT and the Brawl Sheik to base anything off of, right?

It'd be hilarious to have a stubby armed Link like that, though it probably wouldn't go over very well.

 

[MLGF]

The way I see it right now, they showed some potential alts at the end of the Doc video.
I'm not going to assume that there will be more then what those silhouettes were for now.

Besides, A good Mr. L is enough for me to main Luigi by itself.

 

[Xenozoa425]

Young Link and Pichu wouldn't work as alternates because their models are different sized and structured from Toon Link and Pikachu. The bones have to be roughly identical in structure for the model to function properly with the moveset. I've tried using YL over TL when P:M first came out, and after like 30 seconds into the match I noticed his legs are too long and they get all wobbly and stretched into the ground. Pichu would look really awkward as well with Pikachu's P:M moveset.

Doc works because he is literally Mario with a different costume. Pichu and Young Link are 2 completely different sized characters and won't work as alternates.

 

[BigHairyFart]

We need Mega-Charizard X/Y & Mega-Lucario alt. costumes.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Classic C. Falcon

Spoiler

 

[Little Nemo]

All of my want is for that Falcon.

 

[trash?]

I can't possibly wonder what kind of falcon costume we could have

IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME OTHER FIRST PARTY CHARACTER FROM NINTENDO THAT LOOKED LIKE HIM

HMM

HMMMMM

HMMMMMMM

 

[AnOkayDM]

Please god no to Link's villager outfit from Twilight Princess. It's hideous.

OoT or SS as Link's alt please.

 

[UberAndrew]

As many people have already said, alternate costumes should be limited to things that make sense for the character. No Master Chief over Snake or Blaziken over Captain Falcon. But what I do want to know is what is the limit for alternate costumes? Can a character only have 1 potential alternate costume? Or can there be more?

But anyways, here's some alternate costumes that I think could work.

Luigi - Mr. L
Bowser - Dry Bowser
Peach - Daisy, Rosalina, Shadow Peach (From Paper Mario TYD)
Donkey Kong - Funky Kong
Yoshi - Boshi, Birdo
Link - OOT Link, Skyward Sword Link
Zelda - OOT Zelda, Skyward Sword Zelad
Ganondorf - OOT Ganondorf, Skyward Sword Demise
Toon Link - OOT Young Link (If actually possible, I'd imagine the size and joint difference might cause a problem), Outset Shirt Link
Sonic - Shadow, Silver, Knuckles, Metal Sonic, Scourge the Hedgehog (From the Archie Sonic Comics)
Ness - Ninten
Charizard - MegaCharizard X or Y
Lucario - Mega Lucario
Mewtwo (Assuming they add him) - MegaMewtwo X or Y
Pikachu - Raichu or Pichu (Assuming the size difference would allow)
Jigglypuff - Wigglytuff (Same issue with Raichu and Pichu for Pikachu)
ROB - Ancient Minister
Kirby - Yarn Kirby, Prince Fluff
Meta Knight - GalactaKnight, Beta MetaKnight http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121223053756/kirby/images/0/05/Pseudo_meta_knight.jpg
Deded - Masked Dedede
Fox - Melee Fox
Falco - Melee Falco
Samus - Fusion Suit Samus, Phaazon Suit Samus, Power Suit without Varia Suit

I've seen majority of these as actual alternates in the Brawl Vault, and they were all excellent quality. I'm sure whatever the PM team chooses will be fine, but I'm at least hoping majority of the roster will have some kind of alternate. It definitely adds a lot of unique flair for each character.

 

[Fortress]

I know the common thing to discuss regarding Link is Twilight and Melee costumes, but has anyone considered bringing back....this?

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I gave it a thought, but the only 'true' LttP/LA/Oracle texture swap out there looks kind of goofy. It's really well-done, but it doesn't have that 'brawl' tone that I assumed PMBR were going for.

 

[AnOkayDM]

As many people have already said, alternate costumes should be limited to things that make sense for the character. No Master Chief over Snake or Blaziken over Captain Falcon. But what I do want to know is what is the limit for alternate costumes? Can a character only have 1 potential alternate costume? Or can there be more?

But anyways, here's some alternate costumes that I think could work.

Luigi - Mr. L
Bowser - Dry Bowser
Peach - Daisy, Rosalina, Shadow Peach (From Paper Mario TYD)
Donkey Kong - Funky Kong
Yoshi - Boshi, Birdo
Link - OOT Link, Skyward Sword Link
Zelda - OOT Zelda, Skyward Sword Zelad
Ganondorf - OOT Ganondorf, Skyward Sword Demise
Toon Link - OOT Young Link (If actually possible, I'd imagine the size and joint difference might cause a problem), Outset Shirt Link
Sonic - Shadow, Silver, Knuckles, Metal Sonic, Scourge the Hedgehog (From the Archie Sonic Comics)
Ness - Ninten
Charizard - MegaCharizard X or Y
Lucario - Mega Lucario
Mewtwo (Assuming they add him) - MegaMewtwo X or Y
Pikachu - Raichu or Pichu (Assuming the size difference would allow)
Jigglypuff - Wigglytuff (Same issue with Raichu and Pichu for Pikachu)
ROB - Ancient Minister
Kirby - Yarn Kirby, Prince Fluff
Meta Knight - GalactaKnight, Beta MetaKnight http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121223053756/kirby/images/0/05/Pseudo_meta_knight.jpg
Deded - Masked Dedede
Fox - Melee Fox
Falco - Melee Falco
Samus - Fusion Suit Samus, Phaazon Suit Samus, Power Suit without Varia Suit

I've seen majority of these as actual alternates in the Brawl Vault, and they were all excellent quality. I'm sure whatever the PM team chooses will be fine, but I'm at least hoping majority of the roster will have some kind of alternate. It definitely adds a lot of unique flair for each character.

Alts have to be the same character in a different outfit. So no Daisy or Rosalina, no Ninten, no Prince Fluff, and none of those Sonic characters.

 

[Fortress]

Please god no to Link's villager outfit from Twilight Princess. It's hideous.

OoT or SS as Link's alt please.

Are you going to sit there and tell me that he is not the cutest incarnation of Link since the Oracle series?

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[Kaye Cruiser]

Classic C. Falcon

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Very good choice.

I would've also accepted Super Falcon.

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Or even something more simple yet very different.

Helmetless Captain Falcon

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http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=31438

I can't possibly wonder what kind of falcon costume we could have

IF ONLY THERE WERE SOME OTHER FIRST PARTY CHARACTER FROM NINTENDO THAT LOOKED LIKE HIM

There is.

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And he's even from the same series. ¦D

Also, for Sonic, I just browsed through my own BrawlVault and saw something that could be done better with proper modeling. Someone else did it afterwards, but his version only works properly in Dolphin

Would anyone be highly against this? XD

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[Fortress]

Very good choice.

I would've also accepted Super Falcon.

I agree with Classic/Helmetless Falcon. Douglass needs some love, and either of those would be excellent. Mario Sonic, I don't really agree with, mostly because of how I'm assuming him being blue, and Mario's duds being red could screw around with perception of team colors and whatnot.

If SS Link is such a gray area, then I'd like to re-cast my vote for his various armor schemes throughout TP. At least they'd be from the same game as the Link portrayed in Brawl.

As for Luigi... well, how about Doc Weegee..? The texture is out there, with swaps I'm sure, and he's not from anything in particular, so I don't see how that could cause any S&D troubles.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Mario Sonic, I don't really agree with, mostly because of how I'm assuming him being blue, and Mario's duds being red could screw around with perception of team colors and whatnot.

I honestly don't think so. He doesn't have to have the exact same alt colors on the outfit as Mario. Even with that, theses are the alt outfits, so they could easily be set to different colors than you'd expect.

The red sticks out enough on this outfit, so this could be the alt Red Team Sonic. The alt Blue Team one could be Mr. Segtendo here with Mario's blue outfit colors scheme on the clothes, and so on. Kinda like how Falco is a rather bold, noticeable blue, but his outfit's alt colors stand out enough to where you can tell what team color he is. Same deal.

That gigantic hat on Sonic is there for a reason, after all. XD

That and he has his trademark shoes which could change color with the outfits to make it even more obvious as to which team color he is.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Are you going to sit there and tell me that he is not the cutest incarnation of Link since the Oracle series?

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As a matter of fact, I am. I believe that honor goes to the one shown in my avatar.

Luigi's gonna be Mr. L, as he should be, and for Link, I'd rather a separate incarnation than recolors of Zora or Magic Armor. The alternate skins should really stand out more, I think, and those armors don't stand out enough for me.

I'm still voting for OoT/Melee Link.

 

[Fortress]

As a matter of fact, I am. I believe that honor goes to the one shown in my avatar.

Luigi's gonna be Mr. L, as he should be, and for Link, I'd rather a separate incarnation than recolors of Zora or Magic Armor. The alternate skins should really stand out more, I think, and those armors don't stand out enough for me.


I'm still voting for OoT/Melee Link.

While I disagree, I think OoT/Melee Link is also a very good, and very consistent choice when it comes to each swap looking as similar as possible. Sort of like this?

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[Kaye Cruiser]

What you people probably see from these posts.:

Are you going to sit there and tell me that he is not the cutest incarnation of Link since the Oracle series?

As a matter of fact, I am..

What I'm seeing from these posts:

My silly imagination aside, that OoT would be a good base to design an alternate outfit for Link from. It definitely looks distinct and different enough even at a short glance from a distance.

 

[Trinsic]

More than anything else I'd just like to see Yoshi get his white, black, purple and orange colors. I mean, these have all shown up in Yoshi games, and they'd probably be very easy to implement. Heck, these are probably all up on Brawl Vault already. This is a much better option than Boshi imo, as he just isn't important or different enough from Yoshi (he's just a blue Yoshi with sunglasses and a pointier spine). The missing colors stand out a lot more and add quite a bit more variety.

I'm actually assuming Yoshi is already gonna get these colors, but I wanted to voice my wants anyway, just in case.

Another character I'd like to see get more colors instead of a whole new costume is Kirby. I'd like to see his Air Ride colors be used, or some of the ones from Squeak Squad.

This is all assuming these characters are even in 3.0, which I obviously don't know for sure.

If you guys could find a way to put a proper headband Jigglypuff (not the lame static one on Brawl Vault) into the game, that would be amazing. I'm not expecting it since that would entail a lot of work for just one costume, but I'm not above asking for it.

Oh, and I'm hyped about Doc and party hat Pikachu. The turbo Tuesday video was a really good way to reveal the costume engine, so props to whoever decided to reveal it this way.

 

[Fortress]

My silly imagination aside, that OoT would be a good base to design an alternate outfit for Link from. It definitely looks distinct and different enough even at a short glance from a distance.

Ha. I love Vegeta and Tien. Anyway, I totally agree with the both of you. OoT/Melee Link would simply look more 'consistent' across the board as a single model with color swaps, as opposed to multiple variations of armor with different color schemes.

 

[red9rd]

Alts have to be the same character in a different outfit. So no Daisy or Rosalina, no Ninten, no Prince Fluff, and none of those Sonic characters.

I don't see why we couldn't have Ninten as a costume over Ness? Ninten is in brawl and he's referenced in Earthbound.

 

[trash?]

Alts have to be the same character in a different outfit. So no Daisy or Rosalina, no Ninten, no Prince Fluff, and none of those Sonic characters.

then you make them the characters in these specific costumes. even something as simple as a blue-ish kirby with a crown would do the job for prince fluff, for example.

I'm wondering if SSE ancient minister would work well or not. hmmmm.