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Lol yes I know. I have beaten many other foxes players that do it. It's just something I wanted to learn how to do effectively to add to the arsenal and see how it works out for me. Yeah I'm so glad smash 4 is not like melee in that respectJust wondering, why do you want to learn how to perfect pivot. It is an advanced tech, one that meant for advanced players. It isn't fundamental, in fact it's a supplement to say the least. Sure it's nice to know how to perfect pivot, but this isn't Melee where wardashing is a crucial part of the meta. You can simply play Smash 4 without perfect pivoting and be off fine