Peach's Uthrow on Fox!

[Vampirekain]

I've been playing Peach for some time but I actually found about the Uthrow only yesterday that can be a great CG for Fox and Falco! So I went and tried it on the CPU first before I try it on my friends...I tried at first against a Fox lvl1...I grab him Uthrow him grab him again Uthrow him and then he DI's to the right! I've seen in a video a Peach player showing the move on FD with a 9lvl CPU...I then try the same and i successfully do the CG Uthrow on Fox in FD! And I saw that it can be a very powerful weapon against the button masher Fox! Now what I wanna ask is can a human player DI out of it or use a sex kick or anything to avoid it before high damage ratio's like 112-120%? I would appreciate lots of ideas and everybody's opinion and experiences!


Thanks in advance

 

[Zankoku]

It's possible at 20%, humanly possible even with DI at 50%, breakable at 100%. But by 100%, you can just UThrow into SH Nair.

 

[Vampirekain]

Hmmm thanks! I really need to try it now on my friend's Fox! So around what damage it would be good to launch a SH Nair or even better an Usmash?

 

[3GOD]

I actually like to use F-throw to finish it off. I don't really know which works better as far as knock back is concerned, but they are usually DI'ing away/back during the chain grab to try to escape. This is bad DI for the F-throw...just float and edgeguard with your aerial of choice.

 

[Vampirekain]

I know about edgeguard and stuff! Just wanted to rack up some damage with this lil cheap trick Once I knock back a Fox I will not just wait for him to recover! I will ground float and prevent his firefox with Nair/Bair or more situational the Fair :D

 

[timbu]

use the shorthop neutral air. the extra upthrow and the damage from the neutral air will give you the same if not more knock-back than the forward throw, and you won't always be facing the shorter side of the edge.

Of course I would never say not to change it up and use forward throw every once in while.

But one thing I will say confidently is not to shorthop forward air out of upthrow. it too slow and laggy

 

[SirNegroJuice]

I actually like to use F-throw to finish it off. I don't really know which works better as far as knock back is concerned, but they are usually DI'ing away/back during the chain grab to try to escape. This is bad DI for the F-throw...just float and edgeguard with your aerial of choice.

If you're facing towards the stage with him in the grab, they might DI behind you so you won’t f-throw them off the edge. If this is the case, it works to up-throw him and then n-air him in the other direction to send him off the stage.

 

[Zankoku]

UThrow to NAir has more damage and knockback than FThrow. If they DI expecting an FThrow, it'll make SHing that NAir even easier to hit with.

 

[Vampirekain]

What if I want to Uthrow him a sometimes and then follow up with a good and precise Cstick'ed
Fair? Would that work or there is more risk involved than just Nair him out of the stage?

 

[SirNegroJuice]

They can escape the f-air. The n-air is much more reliable.

 

[Me14k]

They can escape the f-air. The n-air is much more reliable.

Why try to fair? peach's nair owns. at 100% it will set up for a kill out of uthrow.

At low percents uthrow to D smash, they usually get hit by it.

i find CGing falcon is easiest. at 0 damage, u throw to Dsmash is like 35 damage.

 

[Vampirekain]

So in other words a human Fox player cannot be Chain Graped from 0% to around 100% like lvl9 computers do? And now that I think about it indeed a Nair would be better out of an Uthrow!