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Some of Peach's moves tend to whiff at certain ranges. I'm currently aware of the following whiffing issues.
Fsmash Close Range Blindspot
Posted by @RyokoYaksa a while ago, Peach's Racket and Club tends to whiff at close range vs standing, thin characters.
Characters vs whom Racket and Club tend to whiff:
*
Characters vs whom only Club tends to whiff:
* * *:
* Whiffs very rarely.
How to avoid the problem:
- Avoid using Racket/Club at close range against characters it will whiff. The blind spot isn't that big, so you can still safely use it at a middle or long distance.
- Pan never whiffs. Choose Pan if you want to make sure you don't whiff.
Shorthop Nair whiff
Nair's vertical hitbox seems to have decreased somewhat. Against shorter characters, shorthop Nair will whiff. This is pretty drastic since it makes shorthop Nair out of shield, one of the best OoS options she has, unreliable.
Characters vs whom shorthop Nair whiffs:
How to avoid the problem:
- Use a floating Nair. A ground floated Nair will never whiff and it hits better in general. It is harder to execute out of shield though.
- Do Nair as fast as possible after you jump. If you do it too late, it can also whiff against other somewhat short characters like Diddy Kong.
Dash Attack second hit whiff
I think all of us have experienced this one more than a few times. Sometimes the opponents pop out after the first hit of dash attack and the second hit will whiff. Generally, dash attack will whiff much more often vs landing aerial opponents than vs grounded opponents.
How to avoid this problem:
- Vs grounded opponents, try to hit with her hands or the sparkles instead of her arms. If you hit with her arms, they tend to fall out more often.
- Vs landing opponents, try to avoid hitting with the first hit completely so they only get hit with the more rewarding, second hit.
- Since you know that this especially seems to happen vs landing opponents, be prepared for dash attack to whiff. Peach recuperates fairly quickly, so prepare yourself to shield or do a fast attack like jab, Ftilt or grab in case it might whiff.
Turnip Throw Whiff
Turnip throw will nearly always miss if you're standing right next to your opponent, which makes OoS Turnip much less effective.
How to avoid this problem:
- Avoid using this move out of shield. Instead, use floated aerials (especially Nair) or Peach Bomber.
- Simply don't throw it when you're standing very close to the opponent. It kind of sucks but this move just isn't optimal at very close range.
- If you still want to throw it, perhaps a jumping Dthrow might be a better idea since it doesn't whiff and you can do a lot of nasty tricks out of it.
Are there any whiffing issues I have not mentioned yet?
Fsmash Close Range Blindspot
Posted by @RyokoYaksa a while ago, Peach's Racket and Club tends to whiff at close range vs standing, thin characters.
Characters vs whom Racket and Club tend to whiff:
* Characters vs whom only Club tends to whiff:
* * *:* Whiffs very rarely.
How to avoid the problem:
- Avoid using Racket/Club at close range against characters it will whiff. The blind spot isn't that big, so you can still safely use it at a middle or long distance.
- Pan never whiffs. Choose Pan if you want to make sure you don't whiff.
Shorthop Nair whiff
Nair's vertical hitbox seems to have decreased somewhat. Against shorter characters, shorthop Nair will whiff. This is pretty drastic since it makes shorthop Nair out of shield, one of the best OoS options she has, unreliable.
Characters vs whom shorthop Nair whiffs:
How to avoid the problem:
- Use a floating Nair. A ground floated Nair will never whiff and it hits better in general. It is harder to execute out of shield though.
- Do Nair as fast as possible after you jump. If you do it too late, it can also whiff against other somewhat short characters like Diddy Kong.
Dash Attack second hit whiff
I think all of us have experienced this one more than a few times. Sometimes the opponents pop out after the first hit of dash attack and the second hit will whiff. Generally, dash attack will whiff much more often vs landing aerial opponents than vs grounded opponents.
How to avoid this problem:
- Vs grounded opponents, try to hit with her hands or the sparkles instead of her arms. If you hit with her arms, they tend to fall out more often.
- Vs landing opponents, try to avoid hitting with the first hit completely so they only get hit with the more rewarding, second hit.
- Since you know that this especially seems to happen vs landing opponents, be prepared for dash attack to whiff. Peach recuperates fairly quickly, so prepare yourself to shield or do a fast attack like jab, Ftilt or grab in case it might whiff.
Turnip Throw Whiff
Turnip throw will nearly always miss if you're standing right next to your opponent, which makes OoS Turnip much less effective.
How to avoid this problem:
- Avoid using this move out of shield. Instead, use floated aerials (especially Nair) or Peach Bomber.
- Simply don't throw it when you're standing very close to the opponent. It kind of sucks but this move just isn't optimal at very close range.
- If you still want to throw it, perhaps a jumping Dthrow might be a better idea since it doesn't whiff and you can do a lot of nasty tricks out of it.
Are there any whiffing issues I have not mentioned yet?
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