Online Melee Play

[metaphysicist]

http://www.geocities.com/the_psychotic_worm/ssbmonlinetutorial.htm

Not positive that this works, but I have seen videos of people on youtube allegedly playing online somehow. I'm surprised, because as far as I can tell this has not caught on so much here at SWF. Has anyone tried this?

 

[Skrlx]

http://www.geocities.com/the_psychotic_worm/ssbmonlinetutorial.htm

Not positive that this works, but I have seen videos of people on youtube allegedly playing online somehow. I'm surprised, because as far as I can tell this has not caught on so much here at SWF. Has anyone tried this?

THAT IS REALLY REALLY OLD.

What you've been hearing about is the Dolphin emulator.

Here's a vid of melee online
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GawL-8YQTUA

 

[Strong Badam]

yeah, i've known about it, but the fact that it requires melee 1.0 (which is actually kinda rare, since gcn discs were the easiest to scratch beyond reading of that generation), a GCN broadband adaptor (which could be used for like... 1 or 2 games officially...?)
it also seems pretty complex (e.g. DHCP must be enabled, though that guide does tell you how to do it, it might put off some people), so I doubt there's a very large userbase for it. if the program goes through more version changes and maybe becomes more user-friendly i could see this becoming pretty awesome tho :O

edit: that and Dolphin is better....

 

[T00TH]

Yer Dolphin is doing really well. Id say in a year or so it will run at 60fps easily.

 

[metaphysicist]

THAT IS REALLY REALLY OLD.

What you've been hearing about is the Dolphin emulator.

Here's a vid of melee online
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GawL-8YQTUA

Sorry boss, nothing came up when I searched

This is cool, I'd heard of Dolphin but I didn't know it had Netplay. I'm surprised that computers can already reasonably emulated Gamecube though, I'd like to know what the minimum to recommended system requirements are.

EDIT: Dug up the requirements if anyone is interested. Not too bad, I think even I can manage that.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows (2000/XP/Vista or higher) / Linux / Apple Mac OS X (Intel version).
* Processor: Any Fast CPU with SSE2 supported (recommended at least 2Ghz). Dual Core for speed boost. use cpu-z to see if your cpu supports it( and google cpu-z dont ask us!)
* Graphics: Any graphics card that supports Direct3D 9 or OpenGL 2.1.


The Dolphin forums even has a thread with a three recommended builds, going from around 500-1500, all very nice! machines.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

I'd give it another year or two before it starts to catch on like online 64 right now.

 

[joeplicate]

i think that a lot of people will be instantly attracted to online melee, though

everybody has always loved the competitive game, and tournaments and all that. they don't have to gradually become attracted to the online scene, like in 64

IMO

 

[:mad:]

A good deal of people only play Brawl because of wi-fi.

It'd become popular pretty fast, I'd imagine.

 

[Sanu]

I'd probably jump on the bandwagon, provided I have the proper PC cojones.

 

[V1P3Rleader]

yeah, i've known about it, but the fact that it requires melee 1.0 (which is actually kinda rare, since gcn discs were the easiest to scratch beyond reading of that generation)

I actually have 1.0. Hasn't been scratched one bit.

 

[pizzapie7]

I actually have 1.0. Hasn't been scratched one bit.

as do I, I believe.

 

[Superstar]

Recent Dolphins have netplay built in, but I am unsure how well it works. The one in that video was an altered Dolphin with Kaillera, the newer ones don't use Kaillera [probably because they want it on every system].

I need to get MattNF to rematch using a newer Dolphin. I overclocked my CPU recently [to 3.26Ghz] so Dolphin should run much better.

 

[LLDL]

I can't belive you posted the phsychotic worm tutorial. Plus 1.0 is mad rare, I had the people at gamestop look through all 40 of their melee discs, and they were ALL 1.2

 

[Rannskita]

wouldnt like the slightest lag ruin your ATs? hows the lag on this? :\

 

[derfleurer]

The best N64 emulator isn't perfect. You can just imagine how difficult the GCN has been. So online play or not, good luck even L-canceling.

 

[Victawr]

I had some trouble with dolphin at first.. Like, having to change my language to German then back before a game could start.

It runs fine, actually. I have to crank everything or else it runs too fast. Got a 3.6GHz processor and a kickass GPU, so that solves it all.

I liked the kaillera one much better than the new one. I played a few matches online with kaillera, and my friend had his GC controller rigged to his computer, so it was pretty sweet. Lag on the shoulder buttons though

 

[Stratocaster]

I've wanted this for a while and will joyfully hop on board if this kinda thing goes into full swing with perfect emulation and unnoticable lag. I have a hard time believing lagless is possible though, and I played on a HD tv recently and boy was it awful... lag throws all the timing you've practiced out the window fast.

P.S. I too have a 1.0 copy of melee in working condition (flame canceling FTW)

 

[victra♥]

Theres a thread like this every second month I swear. XD

 

['V']

If it would get big, prepare for all of the lag johns. I kid you not.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

I'd be content if it reached the level of PJ64k, which is pretty good.

 

[Strong Badam]

If it would get big, prepare for all of the lag johns. I kid you not.

There are no legitimate lag johns when you intentionally go into online play.

 

[Spife]

I too would bandwagon this so hard so fast.
I might needa new computer though >.>

 

[MattNF]

The best N64 emulator isn't perfect. You can just imagine how difficult the GCN has been. So online play or not, good luck even L-canceling.

ur dum

.....

 

[victra♥]

Why's this still open? lol.

 

[Sanu]

Dolphin + Kaillera is mainly the reason.

 

[Victawr]

Dolphin + Kaillera is mainly the reason.

You best not be dissin my kaillera. That has been many many hours of fun. N64 + Kaillera + randoms on SSB64 = best SSB64 randoms in my life.

 

[nevershootme]

what the emulator needs for netplay is GGPO (google it)

 

[metaphysicist]

So I tried doing Dolphin on my iMac. The current Mac port is nothing but a pain in the ***. Due to some parsing error, it can't load some of the files necessary to run the games... something with a graphics .dll if I recall. So I finally went through the trouble of getting Windows going with Bootcamp, and I tried out the Windows version. It started off not too bad, it kind of bounced between 40-60 FPS as I did the first 1v1 in classic mode. And then... around 9 FPS in the first 2v2. This is with a 2.00 GHz, Dual Core im pretty sure.. Radeon X1600 GPU. I feel like this isn't a bad rig, and was surprised it ran so poorly, but I'm unsure just how much of my resources the BootCamp BIOS emulation uses.

 

[breakyourarmor]

ur dum

.....

Answer your messages!

 

[Siglemic]

wouldnt like the slightest lag ruin your ATs? hows the lag on this? :\

No; it shouldn't. ATs are based on muscle memory. Most of them anyway. You might have trouble wavelanding at first.

 

[MarthPwnzer-]

If your pc cant play any game over 100 FPS your pc sucks.

 

[MattNF]

So I tried doing Dolphin on my iMac. The current Mac port is nothing but a pain in the ***. Due to some parsing error, it can't load some of the files necessary to run the games... something with a graphics .dll if I recall. So I finally went through the trouble of getting Windows going with Bootcamp, and I tried out the Windows version. It started off not too bad, it kind of bounced between 40-60 FPS as I did the first 1v1 in classic mode. And then... around 9 FPS in the first 2v2. This is with a 2.00 GHz, Dual Core im pretty sure.. Radeon X1600 GPU. I feel like this isn't a bad rig, and was surprised it ran so poorly, but I'm unsure just how much of my resources the BootCamp BIOS emulation uses.

lol macs

2.0ghz is kind of average for gaming I think

my specs are:

3.2ghz Core2duo (can be overclocked to 4.2ghz)
4GB RAM
9800GT 512MB
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit

runs melee and brawl with a 16x anisotropic filter and 16xQ CSAA antialiasing at 1920x1080 resolution with a steady 60fps

dolphin is getting optimized constantly though, so in future versions it'll be much easier to run

 

[joeplicate]

If your pc cant play any game over 100 FPS your pc sucks.

cool bro!

 

[Thino]

wow I has poor specs for that

so does dolphin supports kaillera yet?

 

[Rannskita]

No; it shouldn't. ATs are based on muscle memory. Most of them anyway. You might have trouble wavelanding at first.

for me it is muscle memory sort of, but i guess i also use a lot of visual cues too. using my own controller on a different TV i mess up my ATs so much more, when i can pretty much do them perfect on my TV. but maybe for others its different.

 

[Rubyiris]

The slightest lag does indeed mess up your ats. Any input lag causes problems.

 

[MarioMariox2]

I hope Melee doesn't become near-solely PC based in terms of tourneys D:

 

[Solaris1110]

I bet that pretty soon dolphin could run on the Wii, which could evolve into online as well... dunno.

LOL MattNF, I love your sig.

 

[demodemo]

except brawl is brawl and melee is melee

i have trouble playing on an lcd tv with 1-3 frames of lag. playing online would be impossible for me

 

[Sanu]

Come out to events Demodemo, you scrub! D: