Please stop posting criticism if it is both worthless and presumptuous.
Lucario has the same problem as Sonic except he has even more trouble comboing. Bam, Bottom.
And yet people place him higher than Sonic? By that Logic sonic should be higher than Lucario because his combos let him make up damage so he can kill easier.
Anyway Lucario can kill more easily and has good combos that he can use. His passive ability makes him more powerful and his hitboxes stay even after tha attack isf inished making him deadly in the air. He has powerful grabs, a powerful jab combo, excellent aerial game, a bit poor recover ybut due to his floatiness its never an issue.
Air guarding is easy for him though it can be a bit more difficult if the opponent weighs more sice they can fast fall to avoid him which means he needs to predict more easily.
Good grab game good specials over all. A good amount of moves that can setup for a kill and his Smashes have great range as well. IMO he is high tier material since he cana pproach, combo, kill and can make use of his passive ability.
Lucario does not have as much of an issue killing because his priority makyes up for it.
Sonic: Fast. Little priority. Few killing moves. Strong combos that can do from 20-30% depending on how many hits land. Excellent gimping ability. Excellent recovering ability. Homing attack stops ALL momentum from EVERY attack so he can survive for a long time.
Incredibly good approach game, good aerial game. Great grab range.
What hurts him is the lack of priority not the lack of kill moves. MK is the closest to Sonic in this respect since he lacks kill moves but unlike Sonic MK has a massive amount of priority in his attacks.
With an excellent approach game and excellent speed Sonic can easily pressure his opponents to death, chase them or play campy against characters he normally could not chase or pressure.
His Over B goes through nearly all projectiles and he can spinshot and punish an opponent very quickly and brutally. however the lack of priority means he will have a tough time against floaty characters.
MUST be unpredictable or he will get killed.
These characters are obscenely good. They are built for camping and controlling the map, and they simply have everything at their disposal and barely have any risk at all. They're characterized by either having one very sound general strategy that isn't countered in any way, or being versatile enough to handle any challenge that comes their way.
you're joking right?
Marth has TONS of strategies to put to use.
Snake tons of mindgames and strategy.
Top tier means they have very few weaknesses that hardly affect them and have little to no matchups against them.
They can combo, approach, camp, pressure, they can do it all and rarely would they have a problem against characters in a low tier than them.
MK has a great approach game but its not the best since even he has problems with projectile users.
Wolf has only ONE strategy but he isn't top so that blows your whole definition out the water as well.
Obviously I pulled these out of my ***, but my ***'s IQ has to be at least 110, so it works.
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zaethro said:
Link is painfully bad. Playing with him is a retroflash to Smash64. Toon Link is what Link is supposed to be. I suppose that's karma for getting to be the "real" Link. I don't know how much he could be justifiably raised.
In Smash 64 Isai was capable of making Link compete with the best despite the fact that Link was on the bottom of the tier list in that game. To insinuate Link has returned to his 64 self would insinuate that he can still compete.
Link is not painfully bad as people make him out to be, there is a thin line between truth and exaggeration.
The main reason Link has a hard time is because he cannot combo and his recovery is arguably the worst in the game. Hell he gets gimped by his own boomerang if he catches it in mid air.
He has little to no edge guard ability, no pressure game and no combos at all.
Many of his moves also place the enemy out of range so he is literally forced into a defensive game style. This isn't to say he is the worst but he is at best low mid tier level.
mainly since his projectile game is decent and his grapple can make it difficult for characters like Marth and MK to approach.
He can't combo or pressure and though he has some ability to approach it means little since he won't be capable of keeping up with his opponent. He becomes a one hit guy so if a person plays defensively he has a tough time dealing.'
At best he is low mid tier level simply because he doesn't have a gross disadvantage in his matchups.
