Latias, Dejayman, staufenburg, BPC etc.
Cut the flaming/trolling or Imma just infract people all day
Cut the flaming/trolling or Imma just infract people all day
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Official BBR Recommended Rule Set 3.1
- Thread starter Shaya
- Start date
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
I was just saying that it stales. And beat you to it MMM 
Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
Normally when something stales it doesn't go as far. Is there some weird thing with how D3s works?
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Yes, there is something weird - his Dthrow is actually composed of two hitboxes. I'm not entirely sure, but IIRC the first hitbox stales while the second one does not. The staleness of the first hitbox affects how far the second sends you, which is why a stale Dthrow will cause Luigi to fly too far away to be regrabbed.
Suffice it to say that his Dthrow staling is complicated, but it can affect chainthrows.
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Internet threats are banned here, but can I have your number?
But you're right. DDD can't grab people.
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
Props to the BR for the tier format for CPs, and for having the balls to remove FD from the top 3 neutrals like it should be
Blacknight99923
Smash Champion
ok thanks I'll have to remember this
No.
What ones specifically?
EDIT: Some of the more controversial ones have their reasonings here.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=10889026&postcount=80
ADHD
Smash Hero
You started off insulting everyone.. lol..
Dude you need to ****ing go out and live life, man. Stop trying so hard.
to late mic 128 already didLatias, Dejayman, staufenburg, BPC etc.
Cut the flaming/trolling or Imma just infract people all day
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
*Too
How'r the ICs coming?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Did he now? *cheekysmirk*
B!squick
Smash Master
Whahhhhhhhhhh! I want my auto Klaw win back! T__T
Whatever, it's not like anyone even SEES Bowser at tournaments anyway.
However, I didn't like what a BBR member stated in another thread about how you can just jump out and win anyway. We of the Bowser Board are in the process of testing and thus far proving that to not always be case though admittedly I'm in it to serve some fresh foot to someones mouth.
Whatever, it's not like anyone even SEES Bowser at tournaments anyway.
However, I didn't like what a BBR member stated in another thread about how you can just jump out and win anyway. We of the Bowser Board are in the process of testing and thus far proving that to not always be case though admittedly I'm in it to serve some fresh foot to someones mouth.
The Real Inferno
Smash Hero
It wouldn't really matter if he lost every time he does it. We wouldn't give him the win anyway just to make him better.
B!squick
Smash Master
But you would take away MKs IDC to make him worse. Though not having a LGL makes him better so I guess it evens out?
he infracts me for the quoted post, and most likely this one.
Crow!
Smash Lord
I would like to emphasize that there is a reason the stages appeared in the way that they did in the 3.0 version of the ruleset. Of the stages in current Group 3, only the following were in the original Counter/Banned group:
3.0 Counter/Banned:
Pirate Ship
Yoshi's Island: Melee
The other stages in Group 3 received enough counter votes to avoid even being in the counter/banned category, and are solidly Counterpicks. That is, the following stages are still recommended for universal play, just not by as large a majority as those in Group 3 and lower.
Some 3.0 Counterpick stages:
Green Greens
Distant Planet
Luigi's Mansion
Port Town Aero Dive
For those looking at T-Block's post and wondering, "Wait, why is Port Town listed here whenever the vote total was majority for banning?" Without getting into enough detail to get myself into too much trouble, the simple answer is that the vote totals shown in T-Block's post are not the final results of the stage revision project.
Anyway, the message I'm trying to get across here is any TOs reading this should add a few more stages from our counterpick list to their tournaments. I understand adding all of them at once might be too much of a shock for players in regions used to using only out through, say, Group 1, but all these stages do have competitive merit and as many of them as possible be treated as such. By grouping them as we have, we hope to make this process easier by making it easier to identify which stages are the least controversial of the stages of the ones you haven't already included.
(Then, if the your new additions go over sufficiently well, try another few more!)
Even more important, though, is following the Starter stages' recommendations. These have a much more dramatic impact on the outcome of tournaments, and the common practice of "5 starter stages with FD among them" is not merely suboptimal like including so few counterpicks is, it's downright unfair. I'd personally move FD out to the 9+ starter set, but 7+ is where the BBR as a whole has placed it, and I will support that as well.
3.0 Counter/Banned:
Pirate Ship
Yoshi's Island: Melee
The other stages in Group 3 received enough counter votes to avoid even being in the counter/banned category, and are solidly Counterpicks. That is, the following stages are still recommended for universal play, just not by as large a majority as those in Group 3 and lower.
Some 3.0 Counterpick stages:
Green Greens
Distant Planet
Luigi's Mansion
Port Town Aero Dive
For those looking at T-Block's post and wondering, "Wait, why is Port Town listed here whenever the vote total was majority for banning?" Without getting into enough detail to get myself into too much trouble, the simple answer is that the vote totals shown in T-Block's post are not the final results of the stage revision project.
Anyway, the message I'm trying to get across here is any TOs reading this should add a few more stages from our counterpick list to their tournaments. I understand adding all of them at once might be too much of a shock for players in regions used to using only out through, say, Group 1, but all these stages do have competitive merit and as many of them as possible be treated as such. By grouping them as we have, we hope to make this process easier by making it easier to identify which stages are the least controversial of the stages of the ones you haven't already included.
(Then, if the your new additions go over sufficiently well, try another few more!)
Even more important, though, is following the Starter stages' recommendations. These have a much more dramatic impact on the outcome of tournaments, and the common practice of "5 starter stages with FD among them" is not merely suboptimal like including so few counterpicks is, it's downright unfair. I'd personally move FD out to the 9+ starter set, but 7+ is where the BBR as a whole has placed it, and I will support that as well.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Crow, I don't think I ever told you, but from the BBR Character Discussions to how you've acted ever since 3.0 was released, you've grown to be one of my favorite BBroomer
On topic: I really hope people take the starter recommendations. Falco is mad hard, and FD in the first five give him, as well as many others, a large lead going into the match.
On topic: I really hope people take the starter recommendations. Falco is mad hard, and FD in the first five give him, as well as many others, a large lead going into the match.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
What exactly is the difference between IDC and planking? It both makes MK untouchable and should both be limited.
YoshiBomb
Smash Apprentice
Unwinnable =/= unplayable.
No, we took it away to make him legal.
It is unplayable. Nothing you can do can stop it. You can't continue the match. It's not literally unplayable, buy you can't continue the match , directly as a result of MK's actions.
BTW, is sonic's homing stall legal too then?
It's pretty much the same concept.
BTW, is sonic's homing stall legal too then?
It's pretty much the same concept.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
You can spotdodge to make him fall to his death.
This is a very old argument you two are resurfacing. Seriously. Like, 15 40-post pages have already discussed this, and I don't think it's ever been entirely agreed upon. Probably won't be this time if you two continue it either, though discussion is what this thread is for I suppose.
This is a very old argument you two are resurfacing. Seriously. Like, 15 40-post pages have already discussed this, and I don't think it's ever been entirely agreed upon. Probably won't be this time if you two continue it either, though discussion is what this thread is for I suppose.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Dude, you can spot dodge it. Trust me on this one. Or don't, no sweat off my back.
However impossible or impractical it is for you to try and stop MK from planking and succeed, you are still able to play out the match and make the attempt. It might as well be the same thing but technically speaking, the situation is not unplayable. There are countless other situations which fall into this category, but we certainly can't go and ban all of those, so why should we target MK's planking specifically?
I dunno if sonic's homing counts as "stalling" or "excellent positioning." I guess the latter....
Vocal's totally right though. I might as well dig those up and quote 'em.
ban MK
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
No, there's no point in quoting anything; you two have pretty much said everything that you'll find. Just imagine this said back and forth for 600 posts with a couple off topics in the middle and there you have it.
edit @ Brouser: Do you have someone spot dodging? If you do then he isn't isn't timing his spot dodge properly.
edit @ Brouser: Do you have someone spot dodging? If you do then he isn't isn't timing his spot dodge properly.
No I don't, but I'm homing attacking a solid bottom with the opponent out of range, which is what the HA would register if the opponent spotdodged when Sonic is about to shoot. If he's already touching the bottom, he's just going to keep bouncing nowhere.
TP
Smash Master
Mariobrouser is right about the Sonic thing.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Are you two absolutely sure? If you are, I don't know where this spot dodge myth would have arisen from if it wasn't true. Get someone to spot dodge.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
I actually do invite you to go get back up; if this information is wrong then I think it needs to be known. However, I'm not willing to take it at face value; prove it wrong under the conditions that are alleged to make it fail and then we will know.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Why did people say you can just spot dodge it then
I trust you to know, so I wonder where the myth originated. So he can stall with this?
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Yes he can stall with it because the hitbox covers his entire body and so it can interact with the bottom of the ceiling.Why did people say you can just spot dodge it then
the myth originated because of idiots.