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I generally see ZeRo and Mr. R do it when opponents jump away offstage and they're already falling/without jumps. It forces them to grab the ledge earlier and maybe frame trap their options from it, or just follow them offstage to try for some stuff. I think of it as a "Well I can't follow them and I won't get punished for this so might as well" kind of move, at least if needles are already fully charged.
dtilt, dair, and I wanna say aerial needles but I've yet to test that. Dair can spike if you have your back to the ledge.
,,,,,,, and his MU with Sheik is heavily in the latter's favor. Do any of these characters have a better shot with Sheik than Wario?
Pretty sure they both (and everyone I know including myself, for that matter) use control stick + A for their fair strings.
Generally speaking you shouldn't try to get grabbed easily but everyone makes mistakes. At 0%, DI down and shield/roll away. At higher percents (10% or more) DI up/away and try to double jump or use nair.
It tends to work at high percents from a full hop, and the trick is to release the needles as soon as you jump. This is where assigning jump and/or Special to a trigger really comes in handy.
I'm gonna write up a table covering the attacks/grabs she can avoid by crouching for just this reason. Tree's video is great, but it can be a real help to see everything laid out in text.
For fair: Generally speaking the best way to do it is to short hop with Y (or X, whatever your jam is) and slide the finger to A while holding the control stick forward, then fastfalling instantly. Rinse and repeat for the fair chains.
You can run up shield as Sonic and punish needle throw, he's fast enough to do that. You're also probably better off asking mains of ur characters cuz I don't play them, but Sonics always manage to find a way around needles when I fight them. I can't remember specifically though cuz I don't play him.
But, in summary, isn't there a way to cancel needle charge into a dash (aside from getting a full charge)?
You can't directly cancel into a dash. You have to cancel the needle charge (with shield button) then dash.
Should we refer to this as "Press light shield" or "Tap light Shield" to remove the need for explanation every time? (Although an initial explanation of the term will be needed). It's the same input as light-shielding in Melee, so I thought it could fit.
Well, it isn't an analog input; it's all about how long it's pressed, rather than how hard/soft. Light shielding is performed by only partially pressing L/R, while needles are canceled by pressing the button fast, like a short hop.
It's a B-Reverse Slide Cancel; My Smash Corner made a video on it a while back.
