New AT: Thinking!

[FrostByte]

They removed this AT from the transition from Melee to Brawl.

 

[BigRick]

this is a great thread, I am proud

 

[tutata]

Yes dawg or something like that. No seriously if its not an AT dont put it in, make sure you check the threads before you add something.

 

[the_judge]

This needs to be added to the stickied AT thread.

East has made the 1st true discovery in this game.

 

[Super Drybones]

I'v found a new AT but i can't think of a name for it

Momentum Operated Thinking Having Edge Reversing
For Ukemi Chain Kirbyciding Effective Results

 

[SlashMolder]

And stop putting "wave" and "dash" in EVERY SINGLE NAME

Agreed. We have too many people posting fake advanced techs and its reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly just spam which is against the forum rules so don't do it.

 

[Syde7]

WIN^n

East's Guide to Wavethinking, Intelligence Cancelling, and Logic Dashing

After seeing the large amount of disarray in this newly created topic, I've been doing a good bit of work with the aforementioned techniques, and I think that I'm able to demystify exactly how they work, and how you, the competitive smasher, can put these items to work to make you an overall better player.

Wavethinking

Wavethinking is possibly the most difficult of the three techniques to master. This is only because it's difficulty to learn varies from person to person. It draws from a mix of intelligence, level of ignorance, as well as the desire to create the holy technique that will break brawl and make the creator a hero among the competitive masses; in which their name will be recorded in the book of the gods right their along with Zeus, Allah, and Melee Falco's Downspike.

Before I continue I feel to completely fully understand wavethinking one should know the difference between a normal technique and an advanced technique. A normal technique is something that the games is able to do, by possibly inputting buttons in a special way, such that they produce a result that aids the player; meaning if I input button 1 and 2 the result is 3 [also mathematically defined as 1+2=3] Examples of this are as simple as a reverse aerial rush.

An advanced technique on the other hand seems to be defined by the smash community here as a technique that when inputed, takes advantage of the games physics in such a way that is more than likely [not always however] breaks them. We input button's 1 and 2 resulting in 42 [also known as the answer to life, the universe, and everything] [mathematically defined as 1+2=wtf?!] Examples of this are wavedashing and possibly L-cancelling from Melee.

Wavethinking can be defined as a player's ability to differentiate a normal technique from an "advanced technique". A good way i've learned to do practice it is to play with pretty much any character, on a basic level such as final destination. when you appear, tap the jump button very lightly, almost as if you were flicking it. You should witness your character jump a very small distance in the air. Now try this again, except slam your finger on the jump button or control stick to jump, and you'll realize that you jump higher. The steps so far aren't the actual wavethink, what comes next is. Depending on who you are and what kind of person you are, after witnessing yourself jump at two different heights, you should feel a tendency to run and post it up on smashboards, expecting praise from your fellow members, only to find that they're just a little pissed because you told them something they already know. The wavethink happens at the point in which you short-hop out of your chair, and before you hit the ground to run to your computer to post, you think about what you're doing, and decide to sit back down and continue playing the game.

With a little bit of practice and a whole lot of common sense, you'll be on your way to wavethinking in no time, thereby reducing "NEW AT THAT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE BRAWL AS WE KNOW IT!!!!" posts.


Intelligence Cancelling

Intelligence Cancelling is probably the easiest of the three techniques, because it' doesn't require much meticulous input as wavethinking. Intelligence cancelling can only take place when your opponent, or any person for that matter, fails to wavethink in time and posts up what they think is an advanced technique, but is really just them pressing buttons faster than normal. This is the point where you come in and simply reply to their thread:

"Not an AT. You've just been Intelligence Cancelled"

and that's it. If you want to practice, just pop into the tactics discussion forums and I'm sure you'll find a few techniques that need to be Intelligence Cancelled already. Remember, Practice makes perfect!

Logic Dashing

Logic Dashing is to brawl as Wavedashing was to melee. In melee if you ever felt you messed up something, a simple, well-placed wavedash would set you straight. In Brawl, if you ever get to the point in which you are running to your computer to post what you think is an AT meaning that you did not Wavethink first, all you simply need to do is think about what your doing while dashing to post up your false "advanced technique". The input is a little quick however; you'll need to realize that you were a dumb *** in the beginning and that your technique [if truly crappy] will not change the face of brawl. As soon as you come to this realization, you'll have to plant both your feet firmly on the ground to stop your dash immediately, turn around, and go sit back down and continue handing your friends or internet acquaintances their own @$$es. With that said, logic dashing will set you straight when you forget to Wavethink first, so that you won't look like a fool on the boards.

Conclusion

With all of the three techniques posted above, I would like to remind everyone, that not every technique is bad and not need be posted. If you truly feel, after careful thought and consideration, that you have found something truly interesting, please by all means post it up.

For everyone else on the other hand, please wavethink. And if you forget to do that, try and catch yourself with a logicdash, because if you don't, just know that you'll probably be intelligence cancelled.

If you have any questions feel free to pm them to me. Comments are appreciated as well.

-East

Hands down. The. Best. Post. In. The. History. Of. The. World.

Moderators:
1) Make this its own thread
2)Lock and Sticky it
3) Add Wavethinking, Logic Dashing, and Intelligence Cancelling to the official glossary/index of AT's.
4) Close all forums on SWF.

As an aside- I have a feeling if this were posted in the AT glossary, a n00b would actually post a topic "So, I can't get Wavethinking down, someone help plz?!"

 

[clace]

That guide was so helpful, I had a match with my friend, he was kicking my ***, then suddenly I thought - 'Wavethinking! The best a man can get.' - I closed my eyes and energy rose around me, It was a great strain on the mind but I continued for the sake of my smash pride, As I opened my eyes I saw my friend was dead, drooling at the mouth and constantly spamming B. I easily wavethunked around his lazerz and Think Cancelled a THNKD F-Smash.

He went flying. I won. Thank you wavethinking, you done changed my life.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Buzz: We use logic-dashing and stupidity-canceling.

I think eternal phoenix fire has it in his sig.

You raaaaaaaaang? ^_^

Epic quote Witchking. You beat my sig!!

Don't forget to flame-dodge your SH copypasta. If you space right, you may avoid getting shield locked.

 

[aznegglover]

Wavethinking sounds too hard!

 

[Dojo Sam]

Oh. My. God. Most win in a post. Ever. I wanted to literally roflmao. Congrats East, you win SWF. Top score. Lol.

qft. East, you own.

And Monshou, you own. That's hands-down one of the best terms coined. Ever.

 

[TehBo49]

What? Actually thinking before you post? THAT'S INSANE!!!

 

[Devil7]

one would think..... oooh wait maybe not.

 

[Minty]

Spoiler

10char

 

[xbrinkx]

True ^. Ohhh my gosh!!!!! I FOUND A NEW AT!!! I FOUND A NEW AT!!!! It's SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!!!! Oh wait, that's an 'Assist Trophy', not an 'Advanced Technique.'

 

[Junpappy]

I'm well aware that this is frowned upon but I'm going to bump this thread in the hopes that more people see this and think about it when they post an advanced technique.

 

[East]

Lol, would it be deleted if I simply posted the guide in a thread?

 

[Junpappy]

Go for it hahaha

 

[DMG]

Why not spare someone the shame of Intelligence Canceling them by using a SPIM (Stupid post intercepting machine)? Basically it reads the brainwaves generated by someone and whenever they get the urge to post information that has AS syndrome (Ample Stupidity syndrome) they are physically restrained and are provided therapeutic services until such a point exists where they no longer feel a compulsion to post their "new AT". Side effects may include periods of Intuitive thinking, Stupid post awareness and prevention, and a decreased interest in posting generally known knowledge about easily executable inputs that are part of the game.

 

[dr0go]

best thread ever! people dont realize that if you search for an AT chances are you will never find it or maybe you can?i think i will make an AT research institute!

 

[Taymond]

Oh my god, I am getting so sick of people spreading lies and misconceptions about techs they don't fully understand. Intelligence Canceling has been around since SSB64. For the last time, people, this is not anything new. Nothing has changed in execution or in result, I'm tired of seeing such misinformed posts on the matter.

Furthermore, Logic Dashing is not even an AT! It's just an example of how much more powerful DI is in Brawl. It's just normal DI, that's it. There is no special boost that happens, or anything to separate this from standard, normal DI. People just don't seem to realize how much more powerful DI is in this game. What looks like an outstanding result from a Melee perspective is as ordinary as tripping in Brawl.

Also, guys, use the search function before you post new threads. There are already dozens of threads on these same techs, we don't need 5 or 6 threads talking about wavethinking.

 

[showmeyagoose]

yesssss445

 

[GofG]

 

[Phantomwake]

Bump because the meta-game needs more people wavethinking and more people intelligence canceling, (on Page 3 thanks to East.)

 

[Rigor Mortis]

Wavethinking got nerfed in brawl >.>

 

[Crooked Crow]

i hear wavethinking counters snake and logic dashing counters metaknight
is this true?

 

[The Chuff]

i hear wavethinking counters snake and logic dashing counters metaknight
is this true?

Only if they don't know how to Intelligence cancel.

 

[Bud]

AT: AAA AAA AAA AAA AAA AAA, get Ike and try it, it has combo potential!!!

 

[Professional Idiot]

I've been thinking for a while about this... why do most advanced techniques usually have the word wave in their names? People could at least be a bit less ambiguous about naming these things.

 

[Pearl Floatzel]

UPDATE!

After testing, some of the characters cannot perform this advanced technique! No explanation found yet, but I'm still working on it.

Characters who cannot perform the technique Wavethinking/Logicdashing/Intelligence-Cancelling:

Ike (No animation. Reason not understood.)
Pit (Begins animation, but stops and goes into his up-taunt as he realizes that the fight is on.)
Sonic (No animation. That would be too slow.)


Ike/Pit/Sonic mains, I'm sorry. This technique could prevent those three from becoming viable at tournaments, due to wavethinking being able to counter anything you can do.

Kudos to the OP for this discovery. You've saved Brawl.

 

[secretcode]

Oh my Gawd... This is brilliant.

 

[SHined BLind]

I've been thinking for a while about this... why do most advanced techniques usually have the word wave in their names? People could at least be a bit less ambiguous about naming these things.

Some players still miss the melee wavedash, so they need to stay high on an alternative to wavedashing.

 

[choknater]

did you guys know you can wavethink-cancel?

it's similar to DLX cancelling, but i like to call it DMX cancelling.

 

[NF Alex]

This is really hard I can't do it, I guess I don't have enough technical skill.

 

[SHined BLind]

did you guys know you can wavethink-cancel?

it's similar to DLX cancelling, but i like to call it DMX cancelling.

Lord Jesus, fake no, knig her. The competitive Brawl community is letting themselves kill themselves.