need help practicing shield pressure

[Alex69]

Idk how to practice shield pressure with fox

 

[Espi]

Some different types of Shield Pressure with Fox.

• Bair Shine > Bair Shine
• Nair Shine > Nair Shine
• Nair Shinegrab (Shine and then Jump Cancel a grab)
• Nair Double Shine (aka "Multishine")

 

[SwiftOfDaSouth]

Some different types of Shield Pressure with Fox.

• Bair Shine > Bair Shine
• Nair Shine > Nair Shine
• Nair Shinegrab (Shine and then Jump Cancel a grab)
• Nair Double Shine (aka "Multishine")

No Dair Shines?

 

[Espi]

No Dair Shines?

You usually get shield grabbed if you Dair.

 

[SwiftOfDaSouth]

You usually get shield grabbed if you Dair.

Well that shows how much I know about Fox lol. Much appreciated.

 

[Esther]

Some different types of Shield Pressure with Fox.

• Bair Shine > Bair Shine
• Nair Shine > Nair Shine
• Nair Shinegrab (Shine and then Jump Cancel a grab)
• Nair Double Shine (aka "Multishine")

what kind of shine do we use? waveshine or shine -> shorthop?

 

[Espi]

what kind of shine do we use? waveshine or shine -> shorthop?

Shine > Shorthop

 

[SSBMLahti]

No Dair Shines?

The only player I see pull this off without getting shieldgrabbed 90% of the time is Hax. He honestly makes it work.

As for actually practicing pressure, there's plenty of options. You could be oldschool and set select Bowser, set his handicap to 9 and your handicap to 0. Set the damage ratio to 0.5 and practice pressuring the somewhat immobile Bowser. The best method is probably getting the 20XX pack and just setting a CPU to shield only and practice on that.

 

[Espi]

I think Hax gets their shield down a bit with shield pressure exposing the top/outer hurtboxes and gets a free drillshine.

 

[SwiftOfDaSouth]

The only player I see pull this off without getting shieldgrabbed 90% of the time is Hax. He honestly makes it work.

As for actually practicing pressure, there's plenty of options. You could be oldschool and set select Bowser, set his handicap to 9 and your handicap to 0. Set the damage ratio to 0.5 and practice pressuring the somewhat immobile Bowser. The best method is probably getting the 20XX pack and just setting a CPU to shield only and practice on that.

Yeah well Hax is kind of one of my heros in the Falcon/Fox community lol so I try and aspire to his feats. Shoot for the moon, right?

 

[Espi]

Hax, you da real MVP.

 

[Jim Morrison]

You could also practice movement on the stage and mastering all movement options and outpositioning them instead of relying on them shielding and not rolling away.

 

[Boomhound]

You could also practice movement on the stage

Yeah but that wasn't the question.

Drill-Shine pressure is safer in terms of frame data, but puts you in a position to get shield-grabbed.

Nair and Bair pressure is only safer if you position yourself out of grab range.

You can also execute late Nairs to minimize the window of opportunity of getting grabbed while also throwing off your opponent's timing.

To practice Dair pressure I take Peach to Four side against one of its walls- the Bowser method mentioned above also works.