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MKGD: A new Bat watches over the town

Steel

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First, let me introduce myself. I'm Steel2nd, a lot of you may know me from the Marth boards. I've been assigned to help out in the moderation of the MK boards (may or may not be temporary). Despite my lack of participation in this board I know a lot about his metagame and will contribute wherever I can.

Anyway, I couldn't help but notice this board doesn't have one of these threads. A few rules will be in place, like all social threads:

1.) We are to only discuss things that pertain to META KNIGHT. This includes MK's metagame, MK gatherings at tournaments, etc.

2.) Minor trash talk is permitted, however don't let it get out of hand or you will receive warnings and/or infractions.

3.) If the thread gets TOO out of hand it will be locked for an undetermined set of time as a penalty.

4.) NO 10char dodging/censor dodging/trolling/spam etc etc you know the deal.

5.) Just don't be bad! This will be a fun thread to promote more activity on the board and get to know each other better. Again, no spam. Make sure it pertains to Meta Knight in some way. And don't give me any posts like "I just had the most AWESOME pancakes of my life.... uhh to keep it on topic Meta's mask is really cool."

Go !
 

sniperworm

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So mods are assigned to certain boards ... I didn't know that.

Anyway, I've got a question for the MK mains out there (and I don't think this deserves its own thread, nor do I believe this is something for the Q&A thread, so I'm throwing it in here).

Assuming that MK remains the top character in Brawl in the future, do you feel that his future tournament representation will be a lot more, a lot less, or about the same as his representation is now? Why do you think so?
 

Steel

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BTW if you guys want a more interesting name for the title then just shoot out some ideas.
 

Steel

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Did you want the comments of "your video sucked slow it down and use less clips" to continue for pages and pages?

That's all it was going to result in.

If you REALLLLLY want it open again I can do so, but if the same stuff continues then I'll just lock it.
 

.AC.

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well it needs to be cleverly titled like the marth one.
 

Steel

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The Marth one I can change a lot because I know the people in the community very well, not so much here yet. If ya'll want a title that changes every few days or so it won't be a problem as long as people can tell me what they'd like to see XD
 

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We made ours near the same time and mine doesn't have that many replies. :[
 

CaliburChamp

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Steel2nd, open my thread. I wanted to mention that I uploaded the normal speed combo video and I was going to weblink it to that thread...

**** today is just not my day!
 

.AC.

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norfair is alright for mk,the only thing he has are some shenanigans and trick but outside of that ots just meh
 

TKD

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So mods are assigned to certain boards ... I didn't know that.

Anyway, I've got a question for the MK mains out there (and I don't think this deserves its own thread, nor do I believe this is something for the Q&A thread, so I'm throwing it in here).

Assuming that MK remains the top character in Brawl in the future, do you feel that his future tournament representation will be a lot more, a lot less, or about the same as his representation is now? Why do you think so?
There's two future scenarios I can imagine:

1. A third or half of the good players play MK, and the rest only main characters that can beat him (Marth, Game & Watch)
2. He's banned

I think so because he's better than everyone else by a large margin.
 

Jim Morrison

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There's two future scenarios I can imagine:

1. A third or half of the good players play MK, and the rest only main characters that can beat him (Marth, Game & Watch)
2. He's banned

I think so because he's better than everyone else by a large margin.
I don't see high leveled Marths beating MK any time soon. You'd be better off with Wario, Snake and Diddy.
 

Nic64

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Assuming that MK remains the top character in Brawl in the future, do you feel that his future tournament representation will be a lot more, a lot less, or about the same as his representation is now? Why do you think so?
I think it will stay roughly the same, maybe a slight increase or decrease in MK usage, more likely an increase. He is better than everyone else but I don't think enough so that it will compel too many more people than already have to switch to him, I think most of the people who'd switch because they felt inadequate or that he was unfair already have, but certainly a few people still do that. He is the best choice as a solo character but this is not news, no one is just finding out now that MK is amazing...

I don't see high leveled Marths beating MK any time soon.
Disadvantaged matchup =/= impossible, and there are numerous examples of high level MK's losing to Marth's... although certainly wario, diddy, and snake are better choices(probably ice climbers too, at least, and maybe a few others...)
 

Tero.

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is norfair bad for mk?

We should keep stuff like this in the Stage/MU/Q&A Discussion Topics.

Btw could someone collect MK Texture Hacks and create a thread with pictures and stuff? I'm really curious but I was too lazy to search through the internet lol.
If there is allready a topic for this please give me a link =)
 

Affinity

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Btw could someone collect MK Texture Hacks and create a thread with pictures and stuff? I'm really curious but I was too lazy to search through the internet lol.
If there is allready a topic for this please give me a link =)
BEHOLD!

























































 

Nic64

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MK is not only the best character but he also has the best texture hacks

hadn't seen like half those before, my wii isn't hacked because I'm lazy stupid and too afraid of bricking it =/
 

Gates

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MK is not only the best character but he also has the best texture hacks
OBJECTION!



I rest my case.
SPACE OPERA SYMPHONY!

Also, I'd really like to see a hack of MK as The Spy from TF2. Probably should be the Red Spy so I can be in pornography starring your mother. I should go to the texture hack request thread and ask for that. Come to think of it I also requested a Doc Louis Wario, I need to check on the status of that.

is norfair bad for mk?
Norfair is an amazing stage for MK. The platform layout is great for juggling into uair strings, your dsmash covers almost the whole platform, and you can just generally do a great job of controlling the stage. I play this all the time as MK even to this day if people don't ban it against me. It's definitely the best stage for Metaknight imo.

Of course most people who go on this stage with MK ignore all of what I just said and plank like ******s because, unfortunately, Norfair is a good stage for that too and it's usually banned for that exact reason.

But yeah, Steel2nd you shouldn't have creates this thread since it'll be a magnet for trolls like this mother****er.

Man, I wish Infinity and Deoxys were here so we could hijack this thread with Magic discussion like we did with the last one. Those were the days...
 

Steel

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I took that into consideration gates, but I think I'm active enough that if any trolls show up I (or Aiko) can shut it down pretty quickly.
 

Rockin

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Bleh, either I'm just picky or MK doesn't seem to usually have any good texture hacks to really choose from (I'm sure it's the former >>) Bloody Meta is amazing though

so, any tournies people is looking forward to?
 

Gates

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Bleh, either I'm just picky or MK doesn't seem to usually have any good texture hacks to really choose from (I'm sure it's the former >>)
I don't really like these texture hacks either tbh. I like the wings on the first one but I pretty much don't like any other part of it or any other texture.

so, any tournies people is looking forward to?
You guys should all come to MI vs. The World to see M2K get beaten by lain again.
 

UncleSam

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I think it was less of a "M2K is unfamiliar" and more of a "he did it to not get MK banned" I don know a guess, cause I watched the matches and even I knew not to put that much effort into killing nana, because doing that it's just like scoring 6 kills, cut off the head and the rest goes down with it, he should have separated them and focused on popo. He probably wasn't all game that day.
you think the same thing will happen at Genesis?
 

brinboy789

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I think it was less of a "M2K is unfamiliar" and more of a "he did it to not get MK banned" I don know a guess, cause I watched the matches and even I knew not to put that much effort into killing nana, because doing that it's just like scoring 6 kills, cut off the head and the rest goes down with it, he should have separated them and focused on popo. He probably wasn't all game that day.
you think the same thing will happen at Genesis?
no. he did not sandbag at all. he was beaten by lain and ally, why cant people accept that? its an insult to M2K to think that he sandbagged at a 200+ person tourney. i dont even want to know how large of a difference the pot was for first and second. M2K was beaten fair and square.
 

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That would be stupid Unclesam. It has not only been proven at time and time again that MK can be beaten, but it's said that MK is -officially- not banned. I would talk more about this, but I don't want it to be a flame war.

anyway, M2K wouldn't sandbag. There's no need to, especially at a tournament. I faced him before and he made sure he didn't take a stock off of him (seriously, he had 3 stocks and I had a hard time getting him over 80% XD).

so now, I'll just ask again. HOW exactly did M2K lost to Lain's ICs?
 

Gates

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How did M2K lost to lain exactly at APEX? is it because he was unfamiliar with the matchup?
He got grabbed.

As for matchup familiarity, idk how well M2K knows the ICs matchup but I seriously doubt there is any ICs more familiar with the MK matchup than lain. The only MKs he's lost to that I know of are teh_spammerer (at CoT4) and M2K (in losers finals of Apex). There probably have been more than that and if lain sees this I'm sure he'll correct me but those are the only two I can really remember.

I think it was less of a "M2K is unfamiliar" and more of a "he did it to not get MK banned" I don know a guess, cause I watched the matches and even I knew not to put that much effort into killing nana, because doing that it's just like scoring 6 kills, cut off the head and the rest goes down with it, he should have separated them and focused on popo. He probably wasn't all game that day.
you think the same thing will happen at Genesis?
I think obvious troll is obvious.
 

Gates

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So I played Brawl + for the first time tonight.

MK's Tornado doesn't give him any upward momentum at all due to the overall increased fall speed.

Guess how I found that out?
 

Affinity

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So I played Brawl + for the first time tonight.

MK's Tornado doesn't give him any upward momentum at all due to the overall increased fall speed.

Guess how I found that out?
lol wow that sucks.

Good thing I never planned on playing MK in Brawl+. I think Wario would work a lot better.
 

Gates

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I didn't try him out. Only characters I used were:

Dedede (for one game)
G&W (for a few games in doubles only)
Peach (for a few games in doubles and singles)
MK (for like 1 or 2 games in singles)
 

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you guys like frigate? i beat a really good gnw on that stage, i was spacing perfectly , playing all m2k like. lol

who else lieks frigate

edit-
as for the people asking about how did lain beat m2k, well lain is mad good lol. 0 death every grab. just needs 3 grabs then.
but idk. m2k will step it up that day he wasnt at 100% he never sandbags any match but in our friednleis i was getting him to last stock, something i thought i would never ever do, probably had something on his mind
 

Gates

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Frigate is a decent stage. I never really counterpick it though, I'm not sure who it would be good against. Maybe Diddy?

Also, out of curiosity, who did you guys main in Melee?
 
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