Mewtwo Patch "Dump"

[haxfactory]

You don't have to enter your tag every time you play now, just once per start it and it'll stay

This has been mentioned at least 10 times and was one of the first things found. Please use search.

If this isn't in the OP yet it should be.

 

[Xyro77]

Samus homing missiles have faster speed after the patch. Why was this removed from the OP after several confirmations here on SWF and a confirmation from redding?

 

[FallofBrawl]

Would someone be willing to test if bowser jrs dair on a shield will still cancel landing lag, and if a landing falco or Ganon dair does the same? No comparison between the two patches needed.

 

[Conda]

Wooooow wtf Nintendo? This tech was hardly game breaking - all it did was offer a nice mix up every now and then to those who could use items (it's even scored me the odd KO in the past.)

:/

They didn't want it in as it wasn't intentional. It's fair to expect this level of polish on their game mechanics coding and designs.

It'd be like if there was a similar technique in Dark Souls - Miyazaki would patch it out as it wasn't intended, and he is a VERY deliberate designer, much like Sakurai.

 

[LancerStaff]

May of found a real change on Pit. Friend says Dthrow used to KO at 427% and KOs at 249% now, the later I can confirm. (CPU will occasionally DI so bleh.) Kinda updated my other 3DS so I can't test.

 

[Conda]

May of found a real change on Pit. Friend says Dthrow used to KO at 427% and KOs at 249% now, the later I can confirm. (CPU will occasionally DI so bleh.) Kinda updated my other 3DS so I can't test.

If true, perhaps Pit's d-throw has more knockback growth and won't combo/chain as reliably at higher percents any more.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

If true, perhaps Pit's d-throw has more knockback growth and won't combo/chain as reliably at higher percents any more.

did it ever combo at higher percents?

 

[LancerStaff]

If true, perhaps Pit's d-throw has more knockback growth and won't combo/chain as reliably at higher percents any more.

Uh, it KOs later now. It should be comboing more now unless it was an angle change.

did it ever combo at higher percents?

Let's just say SSB4 Pit is Melee Marth.

 

[LancerStaff]

Pit's dthrow is unchanged.

Sorry, but how'd you test it? I'm just wanting something new with Pit since he hasn't been changed once.

 

[Yikarur]

Sorry, but how'd you test it? I'm just wanting something new with Pit since he hasn't been changed once.

Side by Side Comparison with 2 Systems.

 

[LancerStaff]

Side by Side Comparison with 2 Systems.

Figured... Well, thanks anyway.

 

[JohnnyFifth]

Tried to match them up as best as possible with the footage I recorded.

I hope this is proof enough.[/]

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Unless the Wii U Pac-Man differs from the 3DS Pac Man those are not both after the update. After the update (at least on the 3DS) Pac-Man's wifi grab extends out and immediately retracts after it reaches its maximum reach. If your first GIF is in real time, comparing it to the grab on the 3DS, Pac-Man completes his grab animation while the GIF's animation still has his wifi lingering at maximum length.

I will also point out that post release, the grab only reaches out about 75% as far as it does in your GIFs (again I am speaking specifically from testing on the 3DS).

Can someone with both copies of the game verify if there is a difference between Pac Man on the Wii U vs on the 3DS?[/quote]

 

[Link24a]

Can we please ban all smash rookies

 

[Ozyroth]

Thanks for finding this! Is it okay if I post your video in the WFT Boards?

Also, I think they added a hitbox to her shoulders on her USmash, you can get a running USmash against a good chunk of the cast now. It's weaker than the sweetspot by about 15% of kill power.

Of course! Go ahead, Sadly I had no time at all to keep hitting the lab until today.

And talking about this... Why aren't this posted on the patch notes already?!

 

[Firefoxx]

Oops double post

 

[DaRkJaWs]

Thinkaman or someone else, there was the claim that DK's side B breaks a full shield now, which is false, but I do wonder whether it takes a little more out of the shield than it does before and that hence it breaks faster if they hold onto it for a few frames less than they did pre-patch. Any way anyone can test this?

 

[Zodiacx10]

why does DK's upsmash still miss people on the ground?....why?

 

[DaRkJaWs]

why does DK's upsmash still miss people on the ground?....why?

has to do with height, your proximity to them, and i believe DK's sliding animation upon doing an upsmash while running is less than in prior iterations of the game.

 

[Zodiacx10]

has to do with height, your proximity to them, and i believe DK's sliding animation upon doing an upsmash while running is less than in prior iterations of the game.

its still stupid...it should hit anyone if they are like standing right next to me on either side.

 

[DaRkJaWs]

well, i think dk's upsmash deserves a little more knockback because as difficult as it is to do the move, and the cost-benefit to doing it is not that much in most situations. In sb64 i used to stay grounded and wait for them to come back down and do an upsmash, as upair was bad in that game unless you had a combo potential with it. In this game it doesn't really pay to stay grounded.

 

[Zodiacx10]

sakurai only likes things that look right. not feel right. is every characger were to have somthing like this pit, samus,wft and other would have there bodies attacking people. but this is off topic complain elsewhere.

DK's arms go through the guy :/

 

[MAGMIS]

No change.



Well, tbqh I am getting wrecked by a headcold the longer I do this...



Nope, neither of these is true. Deconfirmed.

Damn, ur right lol

 

[Road Death Wheel]

DK's arms go through the guy :/

so? begginings of swings have no power behing then. if anything thing they would be poor sour spots that even when landed can be punished.

 

[Aurion707]

Not 100% but I believe Charizard's Fly got nerfed. I could have sworn it killed at about 90 but now it kills at about 95. Granted I tested this on Luigi. I'll test on the rest of the cast. Kills Jigglypuff at about 84 i think.

I believe the same, I feel that it needs more % to kill compared te before that could kill you around 90%. Now it needs almost 100% or more. Can somebody confirm this?

SAMUS BOMBS DETONATE ON ENEMY!

Also her normal missiles travel faster.
Jab is a bit faster.

Some said that her DThrow knockback was reduced; it could be but I didn't notice too much differences.

 

[Meek Moths]

so? begginings of swings have no power behing then. if anything thing they would be poor sour spots that even when landed can be punished.

DDD's ftilt has hitboxes on his body, how comes..

 

[butuco]

Almost sure Greninja Fair got a speed boot, seems pretty fast now

 

[Takezo]

Almost sure Greninja Fair got a speed boot, seems pretty fast now

Forgot to put * Kappa

its all in your head im sure.

 

[Gunla]

Almost sure Greninja Fair got a speed boot, seems pretty fast now

Greninja's Fair is unchanged.

 

[realmwars]

I just got finished playing Smash 4 today with some friends down at a gaming club I'm apart of, and I don't know if it's just me but I feel Palutena got some very awesome buffs.

For one her down/up tilts and even all her smash attacks appear to have less start up and end lag. With all the times I've used her before the patch her attacks appeared to have a lot of exaggerated animations before they initiated and after they finished, which made her an easy target if her moves missed. I started using her today and her attacks came right out in an instant. I also think her down air has an extended hit box since I had an easier time spiking people with her than I did before the patch.

Just curious if anyone else has seen this too or experimented with her a bit.

 

[mario123007]

I had tried share mode on my 3DS, before patch, whenever I want to share my replays to my friends, because of tons of FCs, it often crashes. But now it seems they had fix it, gonna try it more frequently.

 

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

I just got finished playing Smash 4 today with some friends down at a gaming club I'm apart of, and I don't know if it's just me but I feel Palutena got some very awesome buffs.

For one her down/up tilts and even all her smash attacks appear to have less start up and end lag. With all the times I've used her before the patch her attacks appeared to have a lot of exaggerated animations before they initiated and after they finished, which made her an easy target if her moves missed. I started using her today and her attacks came right out in an instant. I also think her down air has an extended hit box since I had an easier time spiking people with her than I did before the patch.

Just curious if anyone else has seen this too or experimented with her a bit.

All placebo. TsuKiyoMe and AeroLink already tested this stuff out and she's the same as 1.0.4 except the Super Speed Jump Install glitch can only be done while holding an item.

 

[realmwars]

All placebo. TsuKiyoMe and AeroLink already tested this stuff out and she's the same as 1.0.4 except the Super Speed Jump Install glitch can only be done while holding an item.

Really? It's weird because I was using her a lot today (as well as Yoshi and Lucina) and I felt like I had a much easier time using her than before. I might try her out a few more times tomorrow just to see if it's still a consistent thing. (Then again a guy I usually play who LOVES spamming as villager and fox was playing mostly Ganondorf today so that may of had something to do with my easier time)

 

[Tristan_win]

I would like another pair of eyes on Sheik tipper dtilt. I have written down that on the 3ds in training mode it kill a mario with the 'kill effect' at 264% on fd.

Now it seems to be 278%

 

[borderlinebassist]

No clue if this is just me, but it seems that the knockback on 's D-Throw is much less upwards and much more forwards. It seems a bit more difficult to hit an u-air from it. Can anyone confirm?

(EDIT: Just gave it another look, it must have just been me. Placebo effect stronk lel)

 

[ATH_]

No clue if this is just me, but it seems that the knockback on 's D-Throw is much less upwards and much more forwards. It seems a bit more difficult to hit an u-air from it. Can anyone confirm?

Not true. It's the same as far as I can tell. All of the basic combos still work, was the first thing I tested.

 

[MrTeddyBear]

No clue if this is just me, but it seems that the knockback on 's D-Throw is much less upwards and much more forwards. It seems a bit more difficult to hit an u-air from it. Can anyone confirm?

Are you testing it on Training mode? The CPUs can actually DI now.

 

[borderlinebassist]

Are you testing it on Training mode? The CPUs can actually DI now.

Yeah, I tested on training mode. Must just be me. I do know for certain that the Cap is unchanged damage-wise.

 

[DaRkJaWs]

Yeah, I tested on training mode. Must just be me. I do know for certain that the Cap is unchanged damage-wise.

i thought people said his forward smash aimed downward had less knockback?

 

[MrTeddyBear]

Yeah, I tested on training mode. Must just be me. I do know for certain that the Cap is unchanged damage-wise.

When I said the CPUs can DI I meant that they can move away from your throw, which is why you're getting the impression that the D-throw has changed to send people forward instead of more upwards. It hasn't, it's just that CPUs in Training mode were modified in 1.0.6 and they can DI away from you now regardless of the attack setting.

 

[borderlinebassist]

When I said the CPUs can DI I meant that they can move away from your throw, which is why you're getting the impression that the D-throw has changed to send people forward instead of more upwards. It hasn't, it's just that CPUs in Training mode were modified in 1.0.6 and they can DI away from you now regardless of the attack setting.

Ah, I see now. Didn't know that they DI even in Training mode. Thanks for clearing that up.

i thought people said his forward smash aimed downward had less knockback?

Not 100% sure about the knockback, but it still does 20% damage