Mewtwo Patch "Dump"

[CyberWolfBia]

I having troubles trying to use my 3DS code... =\ ... I type everything right, but I keep getting the 099-2995 Error;.. someone had the same problem?

 

[NateLinhart]

What are the Bowser changes people are noticing?

 

[uberwow15]

falco has a faster blaster from what I can find.

 

[Nights Owl]

"Palutena now grabs from a character lenghts away now?? It feels like Marth from Melee and its insane"

Tested on Smash 3DS on Sonic. There's only a very small space between me and Sonic that I can get her to grab him with. Did it mention a character specifically?

To be clear, he is a bit more out of her grab range. And there is distance where *visually* it shouldn't happen, but does. Can't test if it was like that in 1.04 though.

Edit: Same for Mario. Visually, it appears like she should whiff her grab, but he does indeed get grabbed. I don't recall this happening in older versions. I was positive you had to be RIGHT next to them. So that's all I got.

 

[Zorai]

B-reversing projectiles is much easier.

Placebo effect. It's the exact same.

 

[ddonaldo]

Tested on Smash 3DS on Sonic. There's only a very small space between me and Sonic that I can get her to grab him with. Did it mention a character specifically?

To be clear, he is a bit more out of her grab range. And there is distance where *visually* it shouldn't happen, but does. Can't test if it was like that in 1.04 though.

Edit: Same for Mario. Visually, it appears like she should whiff her grab, but he does indeed get grabbed. I don't recall this happening in older versions. I was positive you had to be RIGHT next to them. So that's all I got.

Grab range is the same, she had an amazing grab range last patch as well

 

[ES. Dinah]

This would be so much easier if Nintendo would just release the notes themselves.

Any changes for Palutena and DK? I'm glad Rosalina is unchanged, I suppose.

 

[Dumbfire]

"Palutena now grabs from a character lenghts away now?? It feels like Marth from Melee and its insane"

Palutena's grab range didn't change according to the Palutenas (including Aerolink and Ninjalink) and doesn't appear changed to me either. It was always really good.

 

[Enrel]

Grab range is the same, she had an amazing grab range last patch as well

So much so they nerfed the running grab right? (That is last patch)

 

[ddonaldo]

So much so they nerfed the running grab right? (That is last patch)

Think it was the pivot grab they nerfed last patch, might be wrong though.

 

[Blue Ninjakoopa]

They didn't buff the DK Rap to include Lanky's and Chunky Kong's segments.

Falco's blasters are the same speed.

 

[_Barrage]

falco full jab does 1% more
falco's uair does 2% more

I tested this, Falco uair still does 9% as before.

 

[Petroklos]

ZR, ZL and C-Stick on New3DS(XL) are still not rebindable... I want my C-Stick Tilts.

 

[Makorel]

Tested Dark Pit's Fsmash without D.I. I can get it to KO at 112% with D.I. it KOs at 130%.

 

[Takezo]

bad news. You cant Throw out a smash attack, when holding an item anymore -_- ie:turnips,bombs,ect.

 

[SUPERJEM94]

bad news. You cant Throw out a smash attack, when holding an item anymore -_- ie:turnips,bombs,ect.

wait, that's for every character? If so, wow. Anything on Mega Man and Fox?

 

[LancerStaff]

Villager can't pocket Pac-Man's trampoline now! For some reason.

Little late, but there's a glitch that would make Pac jump to the center of the stage and freeze there until he was hit.

Just did some pretty long tests on Dark Pit.

There are no damage changes to any of his attacks; however, there is indeed increased knock back on his Forward Smash and his Up Smash.


Fsmash can KO Mario from the middle of FD at 115%, as opposed to 125% on the previous patch.

Up Smash can KO Mario as early as 115% now, as opposed to 123% on the previous patch.

Fighter weight differences will undoubtedly change the percentages at which DP can KO, but the increased knock back is confirmed.

Can confirm that this is incorrect. KO%s are exactly the same on SSB3D's training mode.

 

[CaptainVul]

Someone told me Dedede got some buffs but they're saying he's untouched on here. Can someone re-confirm?

 

[Takezo]

wait, that's for every character? If so, wow. Anything on Mega Man and Fox?

Yeah, this mainly applying to item generating Characters like Peach,link, diddy,and Mega Man I believe.

Fox i have no clue.

 

[Malkasaur]

somebody please tell me, DID THEY FIX THE C STICK?

 

[SUPERJEM94]

No changes to Fox. The only thing I've noticed is that jab locks are a bit easier to escape, I am in the middle of testing this further though to make sure it's not a placebo

Mmm, hopefully it stayed the same. Quick question, does the A+B for smash attacks work on 3ds as well?

 

[Masque]

Feels like they fixed Palu's dash grab so that it actually connects consistently now. Is that accurate?

 

[DavemanCozy]

Mmm, hopefully it stayed the same. Quick question, does the A+B for smash attacks work on 3ds as well?

I believe this is a Wii U gamecube controller exclusive change. No option seems to be available on the 3DS.

However, I can't comment on New 3DS since I don't own one

 

[FimPhym]

Someone told me Dedede got some buffs but they're saying he's untouched on here. Can someone re-confirm?

Can you be more specific than some buffs? I can confirm his damage values are unchanged, I am waiting for someone to get frame data before saying anything about move speed. I will say I've been smashing all day now playing with all the same set ups and timings and rhythm as before and nothing different has happened.

 

[Tinkerer]

Mmm, hopefully it stayed the same. Quick question, does the A+B for smash attacks work on 3ds as well?

Yes, it does. You can turn it off in settings.

EDIT: I'm on a 3DS XL, an old one, so it's not something New specific either. @ DavemanCozy

 

[YELLO]

Before the patch, if you were to dash with any character and tap the guard button your shield would pop up and immediately fall with little to no lag, now it seems the lag is much higher

 

[PMMikey]

Greninja appears to be completely and totally unchanged.

Better nerf him.

 

[DavemanCozy]

Yes, it does. You can turn it off in settings.

EDIT: I'm on a 3DS XL, an old one, so it's not something New specific either. @ DavemanCozy

thx, I was actually just about to edit my post. I goofed and had it off.

 

[Ffamran]

falco has a faster blaster from what I can find.

This will need confirmation. Anyone one with two 3DSes they can check? We already had a slightly faster fire rate from 1.0.3 to 1.0.4 and a placebo one from 1.0.5.

From what I'm gathering, Falco has a 13% Uair and 1% more damage on his "full Jab" - I'm going to assume either Jab 2 or Rapid Jab Finisher is stronger - if @ Balgorxz is right. Also, Up Smash links better, but how might depend on looking into the data dump. I'm at uni and won't be out until 3~ CDT if anyone is wondering why the Falco mod ain't doing ****.

I tested this, Falco uair still does 9% as before.

Falco's Uair does 11% in patch 1.0.4 and before. If it's doing 9% then either it's getting stale, but I don't really know how staling works or it's been nerfed as that's a 2% decrease which is not warranted at all. Or it has a sour-spot hitbox now. You are hitting with his legs and not his body, right? The body hitbox does 11% too, but with little knockback.

 

[Jya]

Donkey Kong's Down B seems to have less endlag. Can someone confirm?

Time to abuse this in trophy rush

 

[Malkasaur]

Time to abuse this in trophy rush

You wouldn't be able to abuse that. If you're just gonna use Down B the entire time, ending lag wont matter, the startup time will.

 

[Raijinken]

Also ye have the Wii U version number wrong (unless NTSC is different to PAL). It says 1.0.6 on the title screen.

They've synced the version numbers for better comparison, I think. Doesn't actually change anything, just means we can say 1.06 instead of 1.063D 1.03U.

 

[Malkasaur]

Doesn't anybody care to know if the C stick is still broken?

 

[Ulevo]

Aerial c-sticking does not seem to influence momentum any more.

This is wrong. It still does.

 

[LancerStaff]

Doesn't anybody care to know if the C stick is still broken?

Still broken.

 

[Malkasaur]

This is wrong. It still does.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY NINTENDO WHY.

 

[DavemanCozy]

Yeah, C-stick is still buggy with smashes on, momentum is still affected. Wish this patch included an option to turn off charging them while holding the stick instead of A+B smashes.

 

[Malkasaur]

Yeah, C-stick is still buggy with smashes on, momentum is still affected. Wish this patch included an option to turn off charging them while holding the stick instead of A+B smashes.

This is the only thing I cared about and it didn't get fixed. God damn it.

 

[Balgorxz]

I tested this, Falco uair still does 9% as before.

I get 11% al the time
no equipment, no customs,training mode against ALL THE ROSTER except jr

 

[JipC]

Those Lylat and Kirby changes are awesome! I always liked the layout of it and I also liked how Mario's fireballs was somewhat unaffected by tilting while other projectiles get ****ed but unaimable recoveries got ****ed (compared to like, Fox, Lucario, Villager, etc.)