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Matchup Chart Project 2015 - Calling Bowser Mains!

Zareidriel

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Hello Bowser boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."



So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

////////////******
Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit
Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
******//////////


Mark each character with a + for a match where Bowser HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Bowser HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Bowser IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Bowser is is neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!
 

Hitman JT

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:4bowser: =
:4bowserjr: -
:4falcon: -
:4charizard: =

:4darkpit: -
:4dedede: =

:4diddy: -
:4dk: -
:4drmario:
=
:4duckhunt: +
:4falco: =
:4fox: -
:4ganondorf: +

:4greninja: =
:4myfriends: -
:4jigglypuff: +

:4kirby: =
:4link: -
:4littlemac: +

:4lucario: =
:4lucas: -
:4lucina: =
:4luigi: -
:4mario: -
:4marth:=
:4megaman: =
:4metaknight: -
:4mewtwo: +
:4gaw: =
:4ness: =
:4olimar: -
:4pacman: =
:4palutena: =
:4peach: -
:4pikachu: -
:4pit: -
:4rob: -

:4robinm: =
:rosalina: =
:4feroy: -
:4ryu: -
:4samus: =

:4sheik: -
:4shulk:=
:4sonic: -
:4tlink: -

:4villager: -
:4wiifit: =
:4wario: =
:4yoshi: -
:4zelda: =
:4zss: -
:4miibrawl: -
:4miisword: =
:4miigun: =

I like my way better. Also I never really felt like 3 options was good enough since there are match-ups where Bowser's at a disadvantage but still has a good shot at winning like Peach, then there are match-ups where he's completely helpless like Sheik. But for the purpose of your chart I'll keep it simple.
 
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Volimutt

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From my personal experiences as a Bowser main:
:4bowser: =
:4bowserjr:-
:4falcon: -
:4charizard: =
:4darkpit:=
:4dedede: -
:4diddy: -
:4dk: =
:4drmario: =
:4duckhunt: -
:4falco: =
:4fox: -
:4ganondorf: +
:4greninja: =
:4myfriends: -
:4jigglypuff: =
:4kirby: =
:4link: -
:4littlemac: -
:4lucario: -
:4lucas: =
:4lucina: =
:4luigi: =
:4mario: +
:4marth:=
:4megaman: =
:4metaknight: -
:4mewtwo: +
:4gaw: =
:4ness: =
:4olimar: -
:4pacman: =
:4palutena: =
:4peach: -
:4pikachu: -
:4pit: =
:4rob: -
:4robinm: -
:rosalina: -
:4feroy: =
:4ryu: =
:4samus: =
:4sheik: -
:4shulk:=
:4sonic: -
:4tlink: -
:4villager: -
:4wiifit: =
:4wario: =
:4yoshi: -
:4zelda: =
:4zss: -
:4miibrawl:=
:4miisword: =
:4miigun: -
 
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Zareidriel

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Also I never really felt like 3 options was good enough since there are match-ups where Bowser's at a disadvantage but still has a good shot at winning like Peach, then there are match-ups where he's completely helpless like Sheik. But for the purpose of your chart I'll keep it simple.
Thanks, I would prefer to do a more advanced, weighted Matchup Chart [+3,+2,+1,0,-1,-2,-3] in the future, but for now we're keeping it simple like you said. One step at a time.
 

Cronoc

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Hello Bowser boards,

I'm Zareidriel. Over in this thread a guy called Assassannerr made a matchup chart, and asked people to help fill it out. It seems like it would be a cool thing to have. With once glance you could have a rough idea of a matchup. It won't be perfect, but for our first go at it in 2015 we're aiming for "somewhat functional."



So here's what I'm going to do. Go to every Character Discussion board, and ask the folks there if they wouldn't mind contributing. To submit one vote, you'll have to fill out one of these:

////////////******
Bowser
Bowser Jr
Captain Falcon
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Donkey Kong
Duck Hunt
Falco
Fox
Mr. Game & Watch
Ganondorf
Greninja
Ike
Jigglypuff
King Dedede
Kirby
Link
Little Mac
Lucario
Luigi
Mario
Dr. Mario
Marth
Lucina
Metaknight
Ness
Olimar
Palutena
Pikachu
Pit
Dark Pit
Peach
Zelda
R.O.B.
Robin
Rosalina
Samus
Sheik
Shulk
Toon Link
Villager
Wario
Wii Fit Trainer
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
Megaman
Pacman
Sonic
Ryu
Roy
Mewtwo
Lucas
Brawler
Swordfighter
Gunner
******//////////


Mark each character with a + for a match where Bowser HAS THE ADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a - for a match where Bowser HAS THE DISADVANTAGE
Mark each character with a number 0 for a match you feel is very even.

NOTE THAT I AM ONLY TAKING VOTES FROM MEMBERS WITH Bowser IN THEIR PROFILE BAR. It can be as either "Wii U Main" or "3DS Main". But if Bowser is is neither one of those slots when I count the votes on Friday, Nov 13, it won't be counted.

(Yes, for the avid democrats out there, that means you can vote for one other character as well.)

Like I said, they won't be perfect, and each board will probably be a little biased toward their own respective character. But the results should be interesting regardless.

If this thing is successful maybe we'll do a revised version in 2016.

Thanks very much for participating! We need as many votes as possible for each character so please submit a ballot!
Bowser =
Bowser Jr -
Captain Falcon -
Charizard =
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong -
Duck Hunt =
Falco -
Fox -
Mr. Game & Watch =
Ganondorf =
Greninja =
Ike -
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede -
Kirby -
Link -
Little Mac -
Lucario =
Luigi -
Mario -
Dr. Mario =
Marth -
Lucina -
Metaknight -
Ness -
Olimar =
Palutena -
Pikachu -
Pit =
Dark Pit =
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin =
Rosalina -
Samus =
Sheik -
Shulk =
Toon Link -
Villager -
Wario =
Wii Fit Trainer =
Yoshi -
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman -
Pacman =
Sonic -
Ryu -
Roy =
Mewtwo =
Lucas =
Brawler -
Swordfighter =
Gunner =

Because of the rating system, I classified 45:55 and 55:45 as equal. I don't think you'll have to worry much about the Bowser boards being biased. Maybe a little naive in some matchups (I kind of guessed on the Miis), but not biased... we know he's got problems.
 

Big Sean

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Bowser =
Bowser Jr -
Captain Falcon -
Charizard =
Diddy Kong -
Donkey Kong =
Duck Hunt -
Falco =
Fox =
Mr. Game & Watch =
Ganondorf =
Greninja =
Ike =
Jigglypuff +
King Dedede -
Kirby =
Link -
Little Mac -
Lucario =
Luigi =
Mario =
Dr. Mario =
Marth +
Lucina +
Metaknight =
Ness -
Olimar =
Palutena -
Pikachu -
Pit =
Dark Pit =
Peach -
Zelda +
R.O.B. -
Robin -
Rosalina -
Samus -
Sheik -
Shulk +
Toon Link -
Villager =
Wario =
Wii Fit Trainer =
Yoshi =
Zero Suit Samus -
Megaman =
Pacman -
Sonic -
Ryu =
Roy +
Mewtwo =
Lucas
Brawler -
Swordfighter =
Gunner =
 

Zapp Branniglenn

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:4bowser:=
:4bowserjr:+
:4falcon:-
:4charizard:=
:4darkpit: =
:4diddy: -
:4dk: -
:4drmario: +
:4duckhunt: =
:4fox: -
:4falco: =
:4ganondorf: =
:4greninja: =
:4myfriends: =
:4jigglypuff: +
:4dedede: =
:4kirby: =
:4link: -
:4littlemac: -
:4lucario: +
:4lucas:=
:4lucina: =
:4luigi: -
:4mario: -
:4marth: =
:4megaman: -
:4metaknight: -
:4mewtwo:=
:4miibrawl: +
:4miigun: =
:4miisword: =
:4gaw:+
:4ness: -
:4olimar: =
:4pacman: =
:4palutena: =
:4peach: =
:4pikachu:-
:4rob: =
:4robinm: =
:rosalina: -
:4feroy: +
:4ryu: -
:4samus: =
:4sheik: -
:4shulk:=
:4sonic: -
:4tlink: =
:4villager: =
:4wario: =
:4wiifit: =
:4yoshi: -
:4zelda: +
:4zss: -

Values are assuming players are of equal skill level and MU knowledge. Several 55:45 and 45:55 scenarios have been condensed to = since it's really up to an individual player's opinion of how equal does "equal" mean. Bowser's not a polarizing subject. He has some opponents he cannot fight anywhere near to equal terms, and a large sea of "not a problem"s from an objective standpoint.
 

Zareidriel

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Voting closes tomorrow at midnight. Get those ballots in!
 
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