I can't read very well so I only read the first post and the last page
Are you suggesting that every character that someone has skill with should be considered their main? If so, if someone sucks even with the character they claim to main, should said player not have the right to call that character their main?
He's pretty much saying the exact opposite of what you just said. He's saying that if a player is great with a character they should get the recognition they deserve, regardless of whether or not they main said character. Also, if someone is awful with a character, that is just them not being good.
You really can't read well, go back to grammar school.
So let's say, hypothetically, PC Chris had an amazing Falcon, but never proved anything in a serious match with that Falcon and instead relied on his other characters. Then you couldn't accurately judge PC's Falcon among other players who do put their Falcon 'on the line', so to speak. With Falcon mains, we see what they actually accomplish in serious matches whenever they enter a tournament.
And while PC's Falcon may be good enough to be in the Top 10, without him consistently showing it in matches that matter (as a main would do), well, it's only fair not to consider him for rankings.
I think your use of PC's falcon goes over everyone's head maybe, they just see you say his falcon is bad, and miss the hypothetical part XD
If you're saying that PC chris shouldn't be considered the best (insert character here) based strictly on the fact that he is PC chris, than I agree with you there. But in most cases, chris has showcased a superior skill with many characters than that characters best main.
If you're saying something different then you should be burned at the stake, heretic!
PC Chris shows his superior ability by playing the character that he feels will give him the best chance of WINNING IN TOURNAMENT. It's not about character selection, at all. What matters is WINNING. That's what cort's issue is with people who have mains.
Low tier mains just want recognition for the excrutiating pain we put ourselves through by playing a terrible character against better characters whenever possible.
We're greedy attention whores..
Not that I especially care, just about any pro that picks up pika could probably play him better than me (and some do lols), he's just the most fun character i've ever picked up.
Like you N64! you could be so much better, but you play pikachu
It's like trying to swim the english channel in jeans and a winter jacket. Characters like the marios and all the low tiers just can't cut it in tournaments. They CAN NOT WIN. No matter how hard you train, or how many secret jutsus you learn, even if you become hokage of the hidden **** village you won't win a tournament with bad characters.
I'm confused as to when any kind of character rankings should be "fair" or not.
PC used Falcon against M2K's Marth in their MLG Long Island set (and I think, 3 stocked him one game)
If people stopped putting up this mentality that they had to use the same character all the time in order to place well at tournaments, then the community today would be far more evolved in terms of the metagame and counterpicking.
Also, people that seek attention through their low tier mains should just stop playing this game all together, as they're probably not going to get very good considering they'd be too wound up around what other people think of them to actually care about their own development as a player.
Rankings are supposed to represent things accurately, and if there is no evidence of PC having the best pichu in the nation (which he does) then there's no ground to put him at the top of the list. Part of the reason lists like that are made is so that new or lesser players can see who the top names are, and learn from them. If PC, m2k, KDJ, ken, isai, azen etc were all on the top every character list no one would be able to learn anything from people who actually play that character.
PC having one of the best falcon's in the world is irrelevant to Gnosis' post.
You're one to talk, mr. "I'm too scared to play anyone but peach" Maybe you could actually use a good character in tournaments if you didn't have that mentality since forever. People just play the characters they feel most comfortable with, or that they have the best chance of winning with.
There are some people who just play pichu to be stupid "YO I REPT DUH LO TEERS" but well, they just add more money to the pot, so god bless.
