Da N
Smash Journeyman
Hey i play with luigi but i wanna better myself. I watched some vids, seen some threads but i still need something else. Anyone wanna help me out.
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Luigi move disussion
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Randall00
Propitious Plumber
You may have to be more specific. Responses to general inquiries always come in the form of either a video or a thread.
Da N
Smash Journeyman
My bad, i meant to say i posted this thread to talk about luigis moves, like what are his best, when they should be used, what moves not to use, you know.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
Easy XD
Uair = Combo Starter
Fair = Pwnzorz
Dair = Pwnzorz as well
Nair = Sexy Kickness
Bair = Kinda Meh
Fireball = X.X Never use
Luigi 3rd Jump thing = Only use for Right-next-to-ledge recovery and when the hotspot it right there
Luigi Tornado = Good if you can learn how to use it
Green Missile = Mostly for recovering, dont use it as a battle weapon
DSmash = YES the better of Luigi's smashes
USmash = Send them back up into the air
FSmash = Hard to use, but can do great damage
For Combos:
USmash --> WD if nessecary --> Fair/Nair/Bair (Depends on foe's location)
DSmash --> WD --> Fair/Nair (Higher Percentages)
Uair --> Fair (Lower Percentages)
and my personal Favorite:
The Crying Bomb (Most useful on 30-40%, Non-DIing Players get more pain)
Dash Attack --> B^ Hotspot
That enough moves sorted out by the Enter Key for ya?
Uair = Combo Starter
Fair = Pwnzorz
Dair = Pwnzorz as well
Nair = Sexy Kickness
Bair = Kinda Meh
Fireball = X.X Never use
Luigi 3rd Jump thing = Only use for Right-next-to-ledge recovery and when the hotspot it right there
Luigi Tornado = Good if you can learn how to use it
Green Missile = Mostly for recovering, dont use it as a battle weapon
DSmash = YES the better of Luigi's smashes
USmash = Send them back up into the air
FSmash = Hard to use, but can do great damage
For Combos:
USmash --> WD if nessecary --> Fair/Nair/Bair (Depends on foe's location)
DSmash --> WD --> Fair/Nair (Higher Percentages)
Uair --> Fair (Lower Percentages)
and my personal Favorite:
The Crying Bomb (Most useful on 30-40%, Non-DIing Players get more pain)
Dash Attack --> B^ Hotspot
That enough moves sorted out by the Enter Key for ya?
Da N
Smash Journeyman
I dint wan a moves list, i wanted to bring up one specific move, then break it down and talk about it a little more deeply. not just a list of moves and what they should be used for
RyNo 86
Smash Journeyman
I think a wavedashed fsmash is pretty good. Sometimes when they shield and your facing away from them you can wavedash passed them right away and they will shield grab and you can hit them with a fsmash.
Also if someone is rushing you I think it's a good idea to wavedash back and use a fire ball, sometimes it stops them and other times the jump over and use an areil, in which case you could just shield grab them.
Howww dareeee youuuuuuuu
Rollz
Smash Apprentice
Yeah, seriously, the Bair is a great move. It is an exceptional edge gaurd move. When your opponant is under the level or even above or parallel, you can jump and hit them with that Bair. Youhaveto know what your doing though. WD Dsmash i like, also shuffled Dairs are good combos as well as finishers.
LuigiTheButcher
Smash Journeyman
For me the back air can do a wall of pain to a gimpy death of stage for some characters, and if not it will do a great deal of damage.
damage incorperated
Smash Apprentice
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grabs are wonderful throw em up throw em up
jas3
Smash Apprentice
down b is good against fast-fallers, and luigi's up tilt is alright, you can repeat for low % combos. his f tilt is good though for anything.
Gea
Smash Master
The hell? This topic is HORRIBLE.
Uair is probably Luigi's LEAST useful aerial. Bair is PWNSOME and can be used like Mario/Doc's. Dair/Fair pretty much do the same thing but dair is more horizontal. Nair is where the combos lie. Shieldstab or get people trying to shieldgrab you with an aerial - > nair before landing.
Cyclone is great against everyone, not just fastfallers, you just have to understand how the two hits work. Fireball is great for setting up edgeguards.
Ftilt is awesome for annoying and racking up damage, and utilt is GREAT as well. Seriously.
Uair is probably Luigi's LEAST useful aerial. Bair is PWNSOME and can be used like Mario/Doc's. Dair/Fair pretty much do the same thing but dair is more horizontal. Nair is where the combos lie. Shieldstab or get people trying to shieldgrab you with an aerial - > nair before landing.
Cyclone is great against everyone, not just fastfallers, you just have to understand how the two hits work. Fireball is great for setting up edgeguards.
Ftilt is awesome for annoying and racking up damage, and utilt is GREAT as well. Seriously.
CORRUPTiON
Smash Apprentice
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WD to ftilt can usually mean death at higher percentages and proper edge guard. It's less punishable than fsmash. Throws are definitely your friends.
LuigiTheButcher
Smash Journeyman
I agree it is least useful, but it can stop a smash attack...or atleast captain falcon's from where I've used it. The back air is indeed powerful, and like I said can be used for a nice wall of pain.
The down+B for me is very useful for a safe return to the ground after getting knowcked up...just be careful, because if you use it on someone and they are shielding, there is a chance that if you use the second attack the n00b will let up the shield and you got him, but a good player will be able to hold the shield so I try to use the first attack to go after em' and afterwards and the pull back with it if they are shielding.
Rollz
Smash Apprentice
Hmmm i use the Dair the most and seem to rack alot of damage and starts to mindgame ideas.
Gea
Smash Master
Exactly. I saw you did add more than anyone else to the topic but I was too lazy to edit. Keep working on your Luigi. I'm probably moving out of Socal again in December, gotta play you before then and some more online in Brawl.
Pynk
Smash Cadet
Luigi's uair isn't completely pointless. Using an up throw to uair or two on fastfallers is wonderful. By the second one they are out of range so follow up with the fair. A personal favorite grab is WD behind the opponent and grab as you go past them.
Da N
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, i use his uair when im up against a mario, it got better range than their dair and it usually cancels it
LuigiTheButcher
Smash Journeyman
@ Da N
Never thought about that...I am usually worried about the fist when playing docs, especially the short hopped fists, but I would like to try that.
@Gea
Did you mean you wanted to play me? Also were you at the Chapman tournament?
Never thought about that...I am usually worried about the fist when playing docs, especially the short hopped fists, but I would like to try that.
@Gea
Did you mean you wanted to play me? Also were you at the Chapman tournament?
Gea
Smash Master
Actually it is rare you see straight shffl'd fair towards you if you are Doc. It is either out of a setup, pillspam, or they short hop forward then double jump, fast fall, l cancel it. Think Ganon.
I was there. I totally fourstocked you in friendlies (lol suicides) then threestocked (I believe?) in tourney. Something like that.
LuigiTheButcher
Smash Journeyman
Da N
Smash Journeyman
I know his u tilt is a good a attack but usually when i try to do it i jump, its really frustrating does anyone else has the same problem
Gea
Smash Master
You are hitting the control stick too roughly. Tilt it gently.
waynesworld91
Smash Rookie
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Good way to recover with Luigi anyone?
C 3
Smash Ace
Missile towards stage, cyclone recover, jump, sweet spot Up B. This may vary depending on the opponent.
Also, IMO:
Uair = pretty good, mainly situational
Fair = awesome, very fast, killing move, combo breaker
Dair = just as awesome, slightly stronger, slightly slower and potential meteor
Bair = Very good, great for spacing and avoiding shield grabs.
Double aerials = twice the goodness! lol
Dsmash = great combo starter, potential killing move
Usmash = great after up/down throw (depending on opponent), potential killer, high priority
Fsmash = nice tech chaser, great for mind games if used well, potential killer
Ftilt = great chaser, great for edge guard setups and links directly after 3 jab combo
Utilt = a bit situational, but good for combo add-ons
Dtilt = extremely situational
Up B = sexy, not easy sexy as SSB, but sexy. Fancy killer.
Down B = great combo starter, charger for recovery, great spacer.
Forward B = more of a recovery move, unless ur me, when u can U throw - misfire haha j/k
fireball = funny mindgame (jokes only) but great for edge guarding spaceys and whoever else u can use it effectively on.
Taunt = top tier lol
Da N
Smash Journeyman
Luigi is a tough one to return with if hit way out and level with the stage but never give up. the thing with luigi is theres always a chance you could misfire and come back, as for the cyclone recovery, i heard its something like 14 times that you have to hit B to get his maximum height, but even if you get no height and still move horizontally its good, so keep practicing.
I really like the the missle/misfire on most stages, I would try to side-b a little bit above the other guy. This means even if he usmashes, you can DI safely and then tech the landing.
Da N
Smash Journeyman
sometimes its a little tough to sweetspot the up-b usually whenver I play a Doc or Mario I miss the sweetspot and they get me with the d-smash
awsmsean
Smash Ace
I avoid upbing onto the stage, it is so easily gimped, and edge hogged by every character. I mostly try to airdodge onto the stage or sweet spot my double jump, or just try to get onto the stage anyway possible without using luigi's ****ty *** upb.
Da N
Smash Journeyman
As I said before his down-b is a hard one to use and i can get a horizantal recovery and only when im lucky can i get a little vertical, but his tornado was meant more as a horizantal recovery anyways
Ok I have been fooling around with tilts lately and here is some findings/suggestions.
As we all know, ftilt when tilted down has basically no knock back. The problem with this is that the way your control stick is oriented when wavedashing usually results in a downward tilted ftilt. I have missed death combos because of this. So recently I have been aiming ftilts up, and it is working very well. Before when ftiltig straight, good foxs and falcons etc would short hop over the filt and aerial me. With the ftilt upwards they are getting kicked out of the air. It still has some pretty good range too.
Down Tilt - I use it to edge guard sometimes. Dtilting the edge pops them up for a free aerial and they won't have a jump. Also, space fuzzies can be juggled with it at high percents. It is really hilarious too.
Up tilt - it has deceptive priority. I wd up tilt against falcon a lot and out prioritize nair and it comes out faster than his other aerials. It works on a lot of other characters too.
As we all know, ftilt when tilted down has basically no knock back. The problem with this is that the way your control stick is oriented when wavedashing usually results in a downward tilted ftilt. I have missed death combos because of this. So recently I have been aiming ftilts up, and it is working very well. Before when ftiltig straight, good foxs and falcons etc would short hop over the filt and aerial me. With the ftilt upwards they are getting kicked out of the air. It still has some pretty good range too.
Down Tilt - I use it to edge guard sometimes. Dtilting the edge pops them up for a free aerial and they won't have a jump. Also, space fuzzies can be juggled with it at high percents. It is really hilarious too.
Up tilt - it has deceptive priority. I wd up tilt against falcon a lot and out prioritize nair and it comes out faster than his other aerials. It works on a lot of other characters too.
Gea
Smash Master
Down tilt at 80-100% can set up for usmash depending on the character.
awsmsean
Smash Ace
haha i never knew that about his up tilt i'm going to try that sometime.
Ultra Luigi
Smash Ace
I’m glad some people came in and actually gave out good advice (Gea, and Pakman). The first few posts were horrendous. Ftilt upwards is too good.
I still haven’t even played you Gea. This sucks.
I still haven’t even played you Gea.
This sucks.
Gea
Smash Master
I know. And I'm leaving in two weeks(ish). How far away are you from Fullerton? I can't goto the UCLA tourny this weekendI’m glad some people came in and actually gave out good advice (Gea, and Pakman). The first few posts were horrendous. Ftilt upwards is too good.
I still haven’t even played you Gea.
We need matchesssss before Brawl.
I need some suggestions. Say a fox/falco is using up+B for recovery and I am pretty sure they are going to angle downward and sweet spot the ledge. I want to stay on stage because if I miss I get shined/spiked. Also, if I make my move too early they will up B straight across and not go for the ledge. What move/strategy should I use?