Hey guys I got some questions:
1.) how do you guys deal with a fox that "fullhop camps" and basically just goes around the stage waiting for you to commit to something large enough for them to punish? I can't find an easy way to punish fullhops regardless if I know they are going to fullhop or not. Tips?
2.) What's the optimal DI against sheik's downthrow at mid-low pcts? I know when its high pct it's just based on stage/position because she gets the fair/uair for free, I used to DI slightly up and away to avoid ftilt-->fair, and the sheiks I played just used uair (with little to no followup), but I played against better sheiks and they just straight comboed me regardless?
3.) I know powersheilding is super useful against lazers, but are there any other tools or specific spacing ranges I should be using/aiming for in neutral against falco? I've seen blea gelo use upwards angled ftilts and abate spaces so he cc's the tips of nairs (so the shine would miss even if he was slow) and downsmash, any other helpful stuff?
4.) techchasing--I've asked vudujin this before, but he says his techchasing is nearly 100% reactive, but I was wondering if other people had non-reactive or multiple option-coverage options (ie. wd-->turnaround downsmash to cover tech in place and tech away?) I've been testing some stuff against falcon and fox where I just straight up run towards them after downthrow, and crouch-dsmash if they flash green/tech in place, and wd->grab if they techroll either direction on reaction (being slow a bit is also ok cuz a lot of people will shield expecting a downsmash or something. I'm not sure if im getting most of them legitimately, or if I have some subconcious "read" on my opponent. I've also been trying to do WD-->fullhop instant nair when I'm reacting slowly to cover oos options and be relatively ok on shield, dunno how fraudulent that is...
But my point is, anyone have any other specific spacing locations or option coverage techchase maneuvers they'd like to share?
4.)b.) anyone have any techchasing mindgamy "tricks" they do? Examples: On high platform techchases sometimes I shorthop immediately before my opponent even gets to land to scare them from notech->getup attack and then fastfall doublejump downb on the plat to follow tech options. Or another one I use against tech in place-->rollers is wd backwards to their spot, shorthop, then bair if they stay in shield to waveland grab, or directly waveland and regrab to wherever they rolled, etc... Share?
5.) grab followups on peach: are there any true followups (DI or no DI dependent?) or nah?
6.) platform edgecancels--how did players like eddy mexico and vudujin get so consistent at these? I can't jump far enough from the stage to practice long charge lengths due to low horizontal aerial mobility...did you guys just get friends to hit you offstage and practice or is there some kind of visual cue that I'm missing?
7.) Is the head part of luigi's upsmash intangible during charge or only when the hitbox starts coming out? I saw a day ago about how falco's legs are intangible even during charging when he's doing a downsmash. If it is intangible, are there niche uses for it?
8.) upb frame data: so in the luigi frame data thread it says that his upb comes out frame 5, and is invincible on frame 5, but the oos options thread (
http://smashboards.com/threads/out-of-shield-options-frame-data.294336/) says that upb would hit on frame 7, and invincible frame 6, which makes no sense since considering the 1 frame of jumpsquat to get out of shield, and interrupting the jumpsquat to do up b would result in frame 6 for both hitbox and invincibility for one, and frame 7 hit and frame 6 invincibility for the source. Which one is correct? and considering sheiks perfect nair oos is an excellent option to get out of pressure, would pressure thats extremely close to luigi/shield di towards a hit be a viable situation to use upb to punish/get out of pressure regardless of the lowness of the spacies aerial on shield??
lets get this forum hella active again, cuz hell I don't have any luigi players in my local facebook groups.