Lucas spike

[spyk90]

I don't know if someone has posted something about this.

From playing around with Lucas, I've figured Lucas has 2 different type of spikes. One of them is the aerial Down+A attack (sorry, don't know the name of the attack). If you time it right and hit them with all three kicks, they will shoot straight down.

His second spike is his aerial Back+A attack. I haven't mastered this spike yet, but I believe having your opponent hit by the ending animation of this attack will also send them straight down.

 

[Krii]

Actually His Dair spike is only the bottom of his third hit, that's where it spikes. Also it's the last few PK box's on the back air also.

I wonder if they are spikes or metoer smashes, Nintendo did say that Bair was a meteor smash but what about Dair?

 

[spyk90]

Actually His Dair spike is only the bottom of his third hit, that's where it spikes. Also it's the last few PK box's on the back air also.

I wonder if they are spikes or metoer smashes, Nintendo did say that Bair was a meteor smash but what about Dair?

I was wondering where did you find all the name of Lucas' moves? (Bair and Dair?)

 

[LucNess Monster]

personally i find it easier to connect wit the back air because the down air changes your momentum upward and so sometimes it messes up the positioning of the hit... also the back air sends them down faster so its less likely they would be able to recover out of it

 

[JAPMAN]

Unfortunately, his dair is a meteor, but i believe his back air is a true spike (and if its not, its **** strong)

 

[Levitas]

The back air is tough to land, but it is nuts good. Ledge-dropped bair, anyone?

 

[mNag]

I've been playing around a lot with dash dancing and jumping backwards for bairs... if you get it just right you can bair bounce them off the ground dj into a dair then bair again to send them back into space for further juggling. I was practicing this combo on dummy computers and spent hours trying to find good uses for his bair

Mostly just practicing the char I guess

 

[gsarany]

His back air is an awsome spike. I use it everytime my friend is off the edge. However when facing my brother I have trouble landing it sicne hes pit. The guy flies out of my backair and flies to the top of the screen. Anyone got any tips for spiking Pit? I dont have that much trouble on Metaknight but Pit is just annoying. Then again my friend sucks as metaknight but yeah any setups for a backair spike against Pit would be awsome

 

[Levitas]

Get to the edge as fast as possible against Pit and try the PK Thunder, it'll eat the Up b, and if they didn't save 2 jumps, they're screwed.

 

[Negative Zero]

Bair and Dair aren't the moves' names. Those are names created on the internet. Bair is short for back air, and dair is short for down air.

 

[Masque]

I've found that BAir also makes for an effective approach. Dash, leap over the opponent, and BAir. It's a nice alternative to the head-on FAir.

 

[MaximoSmasher]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the termonolgy, whats the diffrence between a spike and a meteor smash?

 

[saberhof]

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the termonolgy, whats the diffrence between a spike and a meteor smash?

a spike is an attack that sends you down and you cant recover from it, if you knew falco from melee, his Down Air was his spike.

a meteor is an attack that also sends you down, but this one can be recovered from easily, like in melee all you had to do was up at certain moment.


lucas is my third character, i can see him having lots of options and strategy's, i cant wait to see whats next for him...

 

[-NEOLINK-]

Lucas's Bair is kinda similar to Ganon's reverse Uair which is a good thing.

 

[Krii]

Dair seems to be good vs space animals (Wolf, Falco and fox) off the edge, I continually spike or Meteor them (i don't know what Dair is) and it almost always lands.

I SH (short hop) off of the ledge and Dair right there so the final hit box is just below the edge so they can't sweet spot, then i hug (grab the ledge) if im still high enough.

I also use the Bair as an approach, I mainly use it to Mind game from Approaching Bair to Nair(Neutral Air) to UTilt or Ftilt (up tilt or forward tilt)

I hope my () helped out to the less acronym savvy Brawlers! =D

 

[Levitas]

Check it out! if you have the bstick control scheme, you can run towards the edge (Keep holding that direction) press the other direction on the cstick (still holding the one direction on the control stick) which will cause you to automatically RAR, and then press A (Still holding the same direction on the control stick) to launch yourself into a back-air.

It's always a good option for edgeguarding, and something to help out lucas's edgeguarding.

 

[PK Starstorm]

it's really useful. I get Zelda with it constantly.

 

[Manic_1]

Dair seems to be good vs space animals (Wolf, Falco and fox) off the edge, I continually spike or Meteor them (i don't know what Dair is) and it almost always lands.

I SH (short hop) off of the ledge and Dair right there so the final hit box is just below the edge so they can't sweet spot, then i hug (grab the ledge) if im still high enough.

I also use the Bair as an approach, I mainly use it to Mind game from Approaching Bair to Nair(Neutral Air) to UTilt or Ftilt (up tilt or forward tilt)

I hope my () helped out to the less acronym savvy Brawlers! =D

bair to nair to ftilt to fair is an incredible combo at low percentages. Not to mention that is looks incredibly bad*** if you land the whole thing.

 

[Manic_1]

another thing. if someone presses jump to launch them from an edge there are a few frames (I have no idea how many) that you can land a bair for a KO.

 

[Dbz King]

Yes i have mastered lucas and those are his only spikes. I don recommend people to use his down+a as one though its very risky. If you dont use it as soon as you jump and you miss you will be very vulnerable to jump.

 

[~Pink Fresh~]

Yes i have mastered lucas.

OMG did you really master lucas?
why is this my first time hearing of you?
i'd love to see vids you playing sometime so i could learn how to "master" lucas as well (sarcasm)

 

[Levitas]

@ DBZ king: Um, check the date of the last post in the thread before you bump it. This hasn't been around for like more than half a year.

 

[Natch]

ATTN: PEOPLE WITH BAIR SPIKE THEORIES

Hit with the tip of his foot-NOT THE HEXAGONS-during any part of the animation.

That is all.

EDIT: Holy crap. This is old.

 

[themrskills]

I find that using the auto-RAR into the bair is a good approach technique. Most people are expecting a fair at that point, and they end up with a meteor smash into the ground, followed by a jab lock to a fsmash. Good finisher.You can also auto-RAR the bair over the edge onto recoveries and be right there to grab the edge.

 

[Levitas]

OK, I'll say it a bit more directly:

DON'T POST IN THIS REALLY OLD THREAD. THE INFORMATION IT CONTAINS IS OUTDATED, AND WILL INHIBIT LUCAS'S GAME IF IT REMAINS HERE.