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Here, we discuss Lucas' use in teams. He is considered a better character in teams than in singles, so why not discuss how to prosper with him? We will go through each character and determine pros and cons, and potentially good stages to play on.
Pros
Great character in doubles
Great character overall
Cons
He is quite light, and could be KO'd somewhat easily.
Stages to counterpick
Luigi's Mansion - MK excels here, and Lucas can pull some tricks out as well. Both live quite long here, and can KO with strong attacks.
Stages to strike/ban
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Pros
Lasers can be absorbed by Lucas' PSI Magnet, and can slow down opponents to help set up for strong attacks from Lucas.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Jungle Japes - Falco lives here, and Lucas has several ledges to tether, and Lucas can PKT2 from the main platform to grab a ledge, thus cancelling ending lag of PKT2. Spiking into Klap Traps/water on the left side is the key here.
Corneria - Lucas likes recovering, and Falco likes the low ceiling.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
With dthrow's set trajectory, it serves as a GREAT setup for Lucas' upsmash
Cons
DDD is huge and has the potential to get juggled quite easily.
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Great character in doubles, who can kill very easily.
Lucas can fill up Mr. Game and Watch's bucket with PK freeze, PK fire, and PK thunder. PK thunder can entirely fill up the bucket with one attack, by tailwhipping a bit.
Cons
Mr. Game and Watch is a very light character, and can be KO'd easily if hit with a strong attack.
Stages to counterpick
Corneria - Lucas and Game and Watch both excel on this stage, definitely consider going here, if it's legal
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Deals with some of Lucas' harsher matchups
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Battlefield - Lucas does ok here, but Marth does quite well here.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Bananas are always fun
Cons
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Yoshi's Island - Lucas and Diddy both don't do well on this stage. Definitely strike for the neutrals, maybe consider banning.
Pros
Wario is very agile and quick in the air, which helps Lucas
Cons
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Laser can be absorbed by PSI magnet, and lasers continue through the magnet to hit other foes (I think)
Cons
ROB is generally not too good in doubles, he is often juggled around by opponents.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiIcfizN4-Y
Pros
Aura sphere makes a GREAT recovery method with PSI magnet.
Lucario at high percents is scary, and something you want fighting alongside you.
Cons
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Pikachu has the powerful thunder attack which you can use to heal and he can use to ****. You can also absorb thunder jolts if you have time to.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Corneria - I've seen Pikachu do some tasty stuff on Corneria, mainly thunder jolt spam. Thunder jolts along the fin can lead to some nice setups. Also, Lucas can recover.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Kirby can inhale Lucas and then use PK Freeze to force shields/air dodges, and to heal Lucas.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
A very strong partner, who can kill VERY easily.
Cons
DK often finds himself getting juggled around, so Lucas may have to go save him from getting completely destroyed.
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Blizzard from both ICs can recover MASSIVE amounts of damage.
Cons
ICs aren't too strong of a character in teams.
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Zamus can heal Lucas with downsmash, which is fast, and hits opponents who are in range of it while healing Lucas.
Cons
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Stages to counterpick
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO9daJHsvoI
Pros
Arrows can do a good job of healing.
Arrows are also a good way of saving Lucas if he's going to die. They have small knockback and fairly small damage, and are easy to aim to save your partner.
Cons
Lucas often finds himself having to kill, as Pit often has difficulty doing so.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oAGZH4anFI
Pros
Peach is great in the air, and can lead to some sexy stuff by floating dairs
Turnips can help set up some of Lucas' stronger moves (dsmash, upsmash)
Turnips can be used to help you if you're going to die, but could be hard to use well.
Cons
Peach often has trouble killing, so you will have to kill most of the time.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
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Cons
You may find yourself constantly trying to save Wolf, as he gets gimped quite easily.
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Din's fire is a nice recovery method, and could be used to save Lucas from dying off the edge.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Fire breath = tasty
Cons
It's Bowser.
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:shiek:
Pros
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Pros
Ike is super strong, and can kill very easily.
Cons
Ike is often juggled around and gimped fairly easily.
Stages to counterpick
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Cons
Stages to counterpick
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQRnc_B88wg
Pros
Double Lucas is too good.
Lucases can heal each other with almost anything.
Make your enemies say "wtf" when you both pick this character!
Cons
DEAR GOD, DOUBLE MARTH!!!!
Stages to counterpick
Corneria
Brinstar
Luigi's Mansion
Anything else Lucas tends to like.
Stages to strike/ban
Yoshi's Island - FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Anything else Lucas doesn't like.
Pros
See Lucas
Cons
See Lucas
Stages to counterpick
See Lucas
Stages to strike/ban
See Lucas
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Cons
Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Steak 'n omelets
Cons
Sonic cannot kill, Lucas has to.
Stages to counterpick
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Stages to counterpick
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Stages to counterpick
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Stages to counterpick
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Stages to counterpick
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Stages to counterpick
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Pros
Great character in doubles
Great character overall
Cons
He is quite light, and could be KO'd somewhat easily.
Stages to counterpick
Luigi's Mansion - MK excels here, and Lucas can pull some tricks out as well. Both live quite long here, and can KO with strong attacks.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Lasers can be absorbed by Lucas' PSI Magnet, and can slow down opponents to help set up for strong attacks from Lucas.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Jungle Japes - Falco lives here, and Lucas has several ledges to tether, and Lucas can PKT2 from the main platform to grab a ledge, thus cancelling ending lag of PKT2. Spiking into Klap Traps/water on the left side is the key here.
Corneria - Lucas likes recovering, and Falco likes the low ceiling.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
With dthrow's set trajectory, it serves as a GREAT setup for Lucas' upsmash
Cons
DDD is huge and has the potential to get juggled quite easily.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Great character in doubles, who can kill very easily.
Lucas can fill up Mr. Game and Watch's bucket with PK freeze, PK fire, and PK thunder. PK thunder can entirely fill up the bucket with one attack, by tailwhipping a bit.
Cons
Mr. Game and Watch is a very light character, and can be KO'd easily if hit with a strong attack.
Stages to counterpick
Corneria - Lucas and Game and Watch both excel on this stage, definitely consider going here, if it's legal
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Deals with some of Lucas' harsher matchups
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Battlefield - Lucas does ok here, but Marth does quite well here.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Bananas are always fun
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Yoshi's Island - Lucas and Diddy both don't do well on this stage. Definitely strike for the neutrals, maybe consider banning.
Pros
Wario is very agile and quick in the air, which helps Lucas
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Laser can be absorbed by PSI magnet, and lasers continue through the magnet to hit other foes (I think)
Cons
ROB is generally not too good in doubles, he is often juggled around by opponents.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiIcfizN4-Y
Pros
Aura sphere makes a GREAT recovery method with PSI magnet.
Lucario at high percents is scary, and something you want fighting alongside you.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Pikachu has the powerful thunder attack which you can use to heal and he can use to ****. You can also absorb thunder jolts if you have time to.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Corneria - I've seen Pikachu do some tasty stuff on Corneria, mainly thunder jolt spam. Thunder jolts along the fin can lead to some nice setups. Also, Lucas can recover.
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Kirby can inhale Lucas and then use PK Freeze to force shields/air dodges, and to heal Lucas.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
A very strong partner, who can kill VERY easily.
Cons
DK often finds himself getting juggled around, so Lucas may have to go save him from getting completely destroyed.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Blizzard from both ICs can recover MASSIVE amounts of damage.
Cons
ICs aren't too strong of a character in teams.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Zamus can heal Lucas with downsmash, which is fast, and hits opponents who are in range of it while healing Lucas.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO9daJHsvoI
Pros
Arrows can do a good job of healing.
Arrows are also a good way of saving Lucas if he's going to die. They have small knockback and fairly small damage, and are easy to aim to save your partner.
Cons
Lucas often finds himself having to kill, as Pit often has difficulty doing so.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oAGZH4anFI
Pros
Peach is great in the air, and can lead to some sexy stuff by floating dairs
Turnips can help set up some of Lucas' stronger moves (dsmash, upsmash)
Turnips can be used to help you if you're going to die, but could be hard to use well.
Cons
Peach often has trouble killing, so you will have to kill most of the time.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
You may find yourself constantly trying to save Wolf, as he gets gimped quite easily.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Din's fire is a nice recovery method, and could be used to save Lucas from dying off the edge.
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Fire breath = tasty
Cons
It's Bowser.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
:shiek:
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Ike is super strong, and can kill very easily.
Cons
Ike is often juggled around and gimped fairly easily.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQRnc_B88wg
Pros
Double Lucas is too good.
Lucases can heal each other with almost anything.
Make your enemies say "wtf" when you both pick this character!
Cons
DEAR GOD, DOUBLE MARTH!!!!
Stages to counterpick
Corneria
Brinstar
Luigi's Mansion
Anything else Lucas tends to like.
Stages to strike/ban
Yoshi's Island - FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Anything else Lucas doesn't like.
Pros
See Lucas
Cons
See Lucas
Stages to counterpick
See Lucas
Stages to strike/ban
See Lucas
Pros
Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
Pros
Steak 'n omelets
Cons
Sonic cannot kill, Lucas has to.
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
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Cons
Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
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Stages to counterpick
Stages to strike/ban
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