Lucas death-chain grab list. (RE-tested! Much better than we first thought!)

[NESSBOUNDER]

Good work to everyone who proved my data wrong. It can be hard to test things effectively by holding two controllers at the same time. However, I'm confident that my data still can be used to determine matchups on who are the safest characters to face or not.

 

[Juggalo]

A good player would learn how long they can hold onto someone and only hit Z for as many times as it's safe and then wait for the grab release.

Don't forget that they can also hit A to do the very same thing. If they're smart and hold forward while hitting A during this, the best accident they can do (instead of shielding) would be a Ftilt.

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

I updated with more accurate information. Looks like Lucas only has to really watch out for Marth, Bowser and himself.

 

[dawgbowl]

that is some relief, and with bowser and marth we shouldn't be getting close to them anyway... ever.

but still... ..... ugh.

 

[Levitas]

Are you absolutely sure about the lucas ditto? I could have sworn it didn't work...

 

[Shibby]

If I remember right as Lucas I could almost chain-grab Ness every time it seemed like.

Vs. level 9 CPU so don't know if that is good enough.

But I remember I was able to attack till it broke and regrab (most of the time)


don't know for sure, just seemed to work pretty well

 

[NESSBOUNDER]

Are you absolutely sure about the lucas ditto? I could have sworn it didn't work...

Well was doing it with DI and everything...Lucas's rope snake goes further than Ivysaur's grab in any case. At least I learned that much.

 

[DanGR]

I heard this stuff about ness/lucas cg stuff and i've a question.

what happen to DI jumping out of a grab? Is that nonexistent? It works with lucas anyways

Edit: he eh...i read the whole thing. I guess zelda's grab is the only one that can be jumped out of... that's my friend's ONLY character he plays with.

Edit: it works against shiek too... am i hallucinating?

 

[Levitas]

no clue if zelda's special. But the fact is that against Yoshi, you will always jump break, and against most others, you will never be able to.

 

[DanGR]

i could v shiek. does that count?

 

[Levitas]

Only if she didn't screw up. But it's kinda null due to the fact that her grab release isn't nearly as dangerous as, say, Marth's.