Whats up, i'm afx the title speaks for itself,
Now i know most of you wont read this at first - me being a n00b having zero post, and posting in the smash 64 forum like its the thing to do with melee being out for several years and brawl about to come out, but with me just getting into the smash craze now i feel like i should be starting at the begining to get the best flow into the game like most of the PRO pros.
The first time i played was when 64 came out and only played with a friend of mine who wasn't very good at the game at all. perhaps a level 1 player. I started with ness so obviously they had been playing for a while and I haddn't. Im an extremely competetive player and have always been into more popular fighters not to name any names. After fiddling around with single player for a while, like most n00bs, after beating it a few times i wrote the game off saying it was easy and no depth to it. Then a few weeks later i found myself stuck doing one of ness's challenges or something getting really pissed off and never playing the game again, or so i thought.
Several years later after getting in depth with other fighting games learning tricks, glitches, techs, pro combos, frame data and all the like i had a better understanding of fighting games and the meta games contained within them. Some of my other friends who had been into smash for a long time and had a better concept of the game were still playing and started comming over my house and playing and asking me to play. For a while i said no - i hated the game for the same reason that most people hate a game, they suck at it. Being the cocky jerk i am and not wanting to look like an idiot i wanted to just avoid it at all costs, especially since i was pretty well revered in other fighters. Well, they finally sucked me in, and i sucked so i just went home with my head in shame and started to hit the books, thats when i came here.
Comming back to smash in a little group game i decided to use Link because i knew his UP B was mad Pwnzors and thought i could at least not embarrass myself by just spamming some nonsense. I got creamed. i quickly realized a newbie link was no match for a seasoned Peach and Shiek player. Knowing very little about the game i fell victim to many Fsmash set ups and was really punished by dash attack combos and decided i really needed to do some studying
I came here and read up a bit and watched some videos and realized with my experience with the game that i had very poor control over the game or my character - any of them. I picked up some cool stuff that i had no idea how to do and decided to pick a character based on the cool stuff i saw from the videos. I choose Fox ... still knowing very little about the game and his demandingness to play. But i did read about tiers and figured i would need someone decent to combat with Peach and Shiek. With alot of reading, and still very little experience i brushed myself off and jumped back into the fray with what i could do. As you could deffinitely imagine i DEFFINITELY embarassed myself. Still falling for alot of Fsmash attempts, and doing way too many double jumps like it was the thing to do. Using alot of foolish attacks and still being a ledge wuss. I needed to go back to the basics - the roots, get a feel for my character and the game. I reverted back to Smash 64 and found a new world of problems
I start playing smash 64 to practice the things i can do. Wavedashing is out, Waveshinning is out, Dair to UPSMASH is IN! attacks are different, tilt isn't even an idea in my head yet. Dash dancing a sperm in progress, and chargable smash attacks are a no go. My friends also seasoned Smash 64 players but not tournament players laugh at my pompus comments - and with good reason because i still didn't know what i was up against. I start practicing with a decent arrogant arrogant player from San Jose who uses Pikachu - really wish i had studied tiers for this game earlier. After getting my *** handed to me by the self proclaimed " best smash player in the world " I decided it was time to do more studying and some deep thread revival. To be honest, the pika player wasn't that bad, he was level 3 i belive if i can recal from the back of my head. throws were god to him - i was punished alot for my inexperience. he did alot of ariel come ins with Dair and a bit of decent ledge guarding - no ledge hog, but being level 3 and me being level 1 i didn't have any kind of chance, everything that happened was a suprise and i was at his pika~mercy.
I reunited with my friends from Sacramento, Ca, and they're not so bad either. The one i play with most is a pretty seasoned player. Hes somewhere in between level 3 and 4 but has alot of level 2 elements because his main is Kirby. He can also only use Kirby and thinks he is unbeatable. Hes decent, doesn't think throws are god, but still beats me alot meaning i know i was stuck at level 1. Still using fox i was trying too hard to be flashy, too much trying to SHDL and doing regular hops and only pulling off two lasers. Not being able to short hop on command, L cancelling was over my head, fast falling was a dream, and not teching attacks really gets me punished. also little knowledge of the game made me very punishable and got him alot of kills. Allow me to be the first to say that five f***ing jumps is f***ing b*lls**t - but i wasn't about to change after having the message board on my side. I've been playing him for a while and even under his critisism i have kept to my play style. Come from the air to attack safer, l cancelling more but i moreso mash my l cancels and cant do them to combo yet. He always told me attacking from the air was usless and hell of unsafe, especially with fox -_- ....
I've been playing since about the end of september now and have decent control of my fox in smash64 at least. I ledge guard nicely, ledgehog poorly. My fast fall is non existant, short hopping alot more often. i cant SHDL to save my life. I can shine cancel for show but not on comand, and i shine as a pretty big part of my defensive offense to take pressure off of me. it works the best to get the mommentum back in my favor, but against kirby, its very hard to leap off and get low %% kills on him because of his 5 jumps. Im at a point where i can take out level 9 computers without losing stock now and still know i have a long way to go until im shffl attacking on command, but fighting players is a totally different story. I'm past taking advice from them because they say things like - kirby isn't that great, link is one of the best characters, fox's ground attacks are better then his air attacks and foxes Fsmash is the best Fsmash in the game. i come here for advice but its few and far between. I know its late in the game but i feel like the smash index should point to more character specific threads and there could be more strategy threads.
Theres plenty of threads on how to do everything, but no threads on WHY these things are important and basic applications for alot of them. Okay - now this afx guy isn't sounding so much like a n00b, but dude, why did he waste so much of our time with that long introduction? Well, i'm hopping i can become a more valued member and player and i dont want my posts to be over looked because i'm a no post n00b. Nobodys gonna take me seriously unless you know something about me so voila.
Smash 64 is a dying an old game, but i still love it and i know alot of you here still love it, i can see it by the posts. and not only that i feel that people need a broader history with the game if they're gonna be any good at it.
Alot of techniques used in the other games are still based on this and i think you can get great practice and practical applications for every day sittuations with this game. What i'de like to do is start threads on alot of these techniques that are hard to find on this forum and bring them to the front page so other users have access to them too.
I hope this post doesn't go over looked, and i hope Alot of you will be seeing more of me here, in the s64 league, and in local smash melee and brawl tournaments.
Now i know most of you wont read this at first - me being a n00b having zero post, and posting in the smash 64 forum like its the thing to do with melee being out for several years and brawl about to come out, but with me just getting into the smash craze now i feel like i should be starting at the begining to get the best flow into the game like most of the PRO pros.
The first time i played was when 64 came out and only played with a friend of mine who wasn't very good at the game at all. perhaps a level 1 player. I started with ness so obviously they had been playing for a while and I haddn't. Im an extremely competetive player and have always been into more popular fighters not to name any names. After fiddling around with single player for a while, like most n00bs, after beating it a few times i wrote the game off saying it was easy and no depth to it. Then a few weeks later i found myself stuck doing one of ness's challenges or something getting really pissed off and never playing the game again, or so i thought.
Several years later after getting in depth with other fighting games learning tricks, glitches, techs, pro combos, frame data and all the like i had a better understanding of fighting games and the meta games contained within them. Some of my other friends who had been into smash for a long time and had a better concept of the game were still playing and started comming over my house and playing and asking me to play. For a while i said no - i hated the game for the same reason that most people hate a game, they suck at it. Being the cocky jerk i am and not wanting to look like an idiot i wanted to just avoid it at all costs, especially since i was pretty well revered in other fighters. Well, they finally sucked me in, and i sucked so i just went home with my head in shame and started to hit the books, thats when i came here.
Comming back to smash in a little group game i decided to use Link because i knew his UP B was mad Pwnzors and thought i could at least not embarrass myself by just spamming some nonsense. I got creamed. i quickly realized a newbie link was no match for a seasoned Peach and Shiek player. Knowing very little about the game i fell victim to many Fsmash set ups and was really punished by dash attack combos and decided i really needed to do some studying
I came here and read up a bit and watched some videos and realized with my experience with the game that i had very poor control over the game or my character - any of them. I picked up some cool stuff that i had no idea how to do and decided to pick a character based on the cool stuff i saw from the videos. I choose Fox ... still knowing very little about the game and his demandingness to play. But i did read about tiers and figured i would need someone decent to combat with Peach and Shiek. With alot of reading, and still very little experience i brushed myself off and jumped back into the fray with what i could do. As you could deffinitely imagine i DEFFINITELY embarassed myself. Still falling for alot of Fsmash attempts, and doing way too many double jumps like it was the thing to do. Using alot of foolish attacks and still being a ledge wuss. I needed to go back to the basics - the roots, get a feel for my character and the game. I reverted back to Smash 64 and found a new world of problems
I start playing smash 64 to practice the things i can do. Wavedashing is out, Waveshinning is out, Dair to UPSMASH is IN! attacks are different, tilt isn't even an idea in my head yet. Dash dancing a sperm in progress, and chargable smash attacks are a no go. My friends also seasoned Smash 64 players but not tournament players laugh at my pompus comments - and with good reason because i still didn't know what i was up against. I start practicing with a decent arrogant arrogant player from San Jose who uses Pikachu - really wish i had studied tiers for this game earlier. After getting my *** handed to me by the self proclaimed " best smash player in the world " I decided it was time to do more studying and some deep thread revival. To be honest, the pika player wasn't that bad, he was level 3 i belive if i can recal from the back of my head. throws were god to him - i was punished alot for my inexperience. he did alot of ariel come ins with Dair and a bit of decent ledge guarding - no ledge hog, but being level 3 and me being level 1 i didn't have any kind of chance, everything that happened was a suprise and i was at his pika~mercy.
I reunited with my friends from Sacramento, Ca, and they're not so bad either. The one i play with most is a pretty seasoned player. Hes somewhere in between level 3 and 4 but has alot of level 2 elements because his main is Kirby. He can also only use Kirby and thinks he is unbeatable. Hes decent, doesn't think throws are god, but still beats me alot meaning i know i was stuck at level 1. Still using fox i was trying too hard to be flashy, too much trying to SHDL and doing regular hops and only pulling off two lasers. Not being able to short hop on command, L cancelling was over my head, fast falling was a dream, and not teching attacks really gets me punished. also little knowledge of the game made me very punishable and got him alot of kills. Allow me to be the first to say that five f***ing jumps is f***ing b*lls**t - but i wasn't about to change after having the message board on my side. I've been playing him for a while and even under his critisism i have kept to my play style. Come from the air to attack safer, l cancelling more but i moreso mash my l cancels and cant do them to combo yet. He always told me attacking from the air was usless and hell of unsafe, especially with fox -_- ....
I've been playing since about the end of september now and have decent control of my fox in smash64 at least. I ledge guard nicely, ledgehog poorly. My fast fall is non existant, short hopping alot more often. i cant SHDL to save my life. I can shine cancel for show but not on comand, and i shine as a pretty big part of my defensive offense to take pressure off of me. it works the best to get the mommentum back in my favor, but against kirby, its very hard to leap off and get low %% kills on him because of his 5 jumps. Im at a point where i can take out level 9 computers without losing stock now and still know i have a long way to go until im shffl attacking on command, but fighting players is a totally different story. I'm past taking advice from them because they say things like - kirby isn't that great, link is one of the best characters, fox's ground attacks are better then his air attacks and foxes Fsmash is the best Fsmash in the game. i come here for advice but its few and far between. I know its late in the game but i feel like the smash index should point to more character specific threads and there could be more strategy threads.
Theres plenty of threads on how to do everything, but no threads on WHY these things are important and basic applications for alot of them. Okay - now this afx guy isn't sounding so much like a n00b, but dude, why did he waste so much of our time with that long introduction? Well, i'm hopping i can become a more valued member and player and i dont want my posts to be over looked because i'm a no post n00b. Nobodys gonna take me seriously unless you know something about me so voila.
Smash 64 is a dying an old game, but i still love it and i know alot of you here still love it, i can see it by the posts. and not only that i feel that people need a broader history with the game if they're gonna be any good at it.
Alot of techniques used in the other games are still based on this and i think you can get great practice and practical applications for every day sittuations with this game. What i'de like to do is start threads on alot of these techniques that are hard to find on this forum and bring them to the front page so other users have access to them too.
I hope this post doesn't go over looked, and i hope Alot of you will be seeing more of me here, in the s64 league, and in local smash melee and brawl tournaments.
