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Level 1 OHKO's Level 100! How can this happen?
- Thread starter Pika25
- Start date
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
That's... pretty awesome.
Let's try to find more things like this.
Let's try to find more things like this.
PT8Sceptile
Smash Rookie
I executed another scenario like this on ShoddyBattle, battling myself. Here's an in-depth description.
First of all, I searched for a Pokemon that would be as powerful as possible with an exploitable large power move on lvl1. Finally, I stumbled upon Cranidos with Head Smash (obtained by breeding two Rampradoses that already have Head Smash). Cranidos has base 125 attack, reaching a whopping 8 attack on Lvl1 with 100 EVs and a +Attack nature. The 100 EVs can be attained with Proteins.
Next, for the victim. The two pokemon that fit the victim's role are Ledyba and Combee (both 4x weak to rock). I chose to use Ledyba. Ledyba has 40 base HP and 30 base Def.
The teams I was using were:
Attacker:
Meditite - 5
Smeargle (Attacker) - 7
Smeargle (Victim) - 6
Cranidos - 5
Ledyba - Irrelevant
And here's the log:
First of all, I searched for a Pokemon that would be as powerful as possible with an exploitable large power move on lvl1. Finally, I stumbled upon Cranidos with Head Smash (obtained by breeding two Rampradoses that already have Head Smash). Cranidos has base 125 attack, reaching a whopping 8 attack on Lvl1 with 100 EVs and a +Attack nature. The 100 EVs can be attained with Proteins.
Next, for the victim. The two pokemon that fit the victim's role are Ledyba and Combee (both 4x weak to rock). I chose to use Ledyba. Ledyba has 40 base HP and 30 base Def.
The teams I was using were:
Attacker:
Defender:
Important notes: Ledyba has 0 Defense and HP IVs, bringing it to 190 HP and 58 Defense. If my understanding is correct, Smeargle can obtain multiple moves at Lvl1 by Heart scaling Sketch multiple times. With the EVs and natures I used, I reach the following speeds:
Meditite - 5
Smeargle (Attacker) - 7
Smeargle (Victim) - 6
Cranidos - 5
Ledyba - Irrelevant
And here's the log:
It maybe is possible to optimize this a bit more, but I couldn't find a way to do that. By removing the sweet scents you get 2 more turns to do something. Rollout has potential to reach even higher power if I could squeeze in a third extra turn, but that would require some more researching for optimization and I'm too bored to do that right now.
Mewter
Smash Master
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Then again, there's that well known way of using Rattatas to beat any Pokemon over level 20.
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Rattata.
Item:
Focus Sash
Moves:
Quick Attack
Endeavor
Scenario:
Opposing Pokemon uses move that knocks rattata's HP down to one, Rattata having been saved by the focus sash.
Rattata uses Endeavor, reducing opposing POkemon's HP down to one.
Rattata uses Quick Attack.
Opposing Pokemon Fainted.
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I think it's pretty cool.
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Rattata.
Item:
Focus Sash
Moves:
Quick Attack
Endeavor
Scenario:
Opposing Pokemon uses move that knocks rattata's HP down to one, Rattata having been saved by the focus sash.
Rattata uses Endeavor, reducing opposing POkemon's HP down to one.
Rattata uses Quick Attack.
Opposing Pokemon Fainted.
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I think it's pretty cool.
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Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
^Yes, FEAR. As it is called.
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Mewter
Smash Master
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What does the FEAR stand for?
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Focus Sash
Endeavor
Quick Attack
Rattatta
-Ter
Endeavor
Quick Attack
Rattatta
-Ter
Ban3
Smash Journeyman
Cant smeargle do this too? just equip focus sash, use endeavor and the next turn use extreme speed
jigglyppuff8
Smash Lord
F.E.A.R is 2HKO, not OHKO.
ss118
Smash Master
I did something like this except I had a Pure Power CB Power Tricked lvl 100 Shuckle with + 6 Attack hit a -6 defense, -2 evasion, lvl 1 combee with rollout on the fifth turn
It was fun. XD
It was fun. XD
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
that is still a 2KO.
homsar
Smash Ace
Who cares if its two hit, it works faster then anything else.
I personnaly use tailow with FEAR. Though I guess it should be FEAT.
I personnaly use tailow with FEAR. Though I guess it should be FEAT.
homsar
Smash Ace
The question should be, why even try? Its a waste.
Ban3
Smash Journeyman
the one hit K.O. moves like fissure but im not shure lvl 1s can learn them
Bowser King
Have It Your Way
they wont work (only R/B/G/Y would it work) because they auto-fail on higher or same lvl pokemon.
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
same lvl is wrong (meant in gen 1, where it was actually same speed, but is same lvl from gen 2 on)
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Miamisportsfan45
Smash Lord
I think Pidgey is capable of the FEAR strategy as well.
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
pidgey can't endeavor
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
no Mudkip doesn't get priority; I don't think Zigzagoon endeavors.
Btw no more of this FEAR stuff.
Zook
Perpetual Lazy Bum
Lv 1 Sableye
-Shadow Sneak
Against
Lv 100 Shedinja
-Swords Dance
-Confuse Ray
-Shadow Claw
-X-Scissor
-Shadow Sneak
Against
Lv 100 Shedinja
-Swords Dance
-Confuse Ray
-Shadow Claw
-X-Scissor
0RLY
A great conversation filler at bars and parties
Oh, trying to be smart now, are we?
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
That's exactly it. Take advantage of Shedinja's single hit point to nail it with the only priority move that breaks its Wonder Guard: Shadow Sneak. The same story for Kecleon and Duskull.
(Or more like, one of two, where the other is Sucker Punch, but that's only if the target uses a damaging attack like tbolt, or in Shedinja's case Shadow Claw and X Scissor.)
Cranidos and Pinsir both have mold breaker, but according to Bulbapedia, only Pinsir possesses a priority move in Quick Attack (bred from Scyther) but even while breaking Wonder Guard it still can't hit it due to the Ghost typing.
But this is why in competitive battles, if you run Shedinja it too should run Shadow Sneak so as to not get owned like this. (But even with Shadow Sneak Shedinja doesn't stand a chance to Level 1 Kecleon with Shadow Sneak assuming it didn't Color Change, because Kecleon, being a Normal type, is immune to Ghost moves including Shadow Sneak. And Kecleon's Shadow Sneak out-prioritizes Shedinja's X Scissor.)
sonofthesky
Smash Journeyman
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Smeargle @ focus sash
endeavor
vs
lv 100 acreus @ sticky barb
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
-Flamethrower
-Psychic
My name is dr smartarse.
endeavor
vs
lv 100 acreus @ sticky barb
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
-Flamethrower
-Psychic
My name is dr smartarse.
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
If the above, Defense Curl was passed to if not used by Shuckle, and it crits Combee, then it does this much damage at maximum:
71,298,684 damage, or 648,169,854% on 11 HP, 4 defense Combee with -6 defense from 614 defense, power tricked CBShuckle with +6 attack and Pure Power skill-swapped onto it.
Hanai
Smash Cadet
Ralts(any leve)
Ralts
evs ain't mattered
Item:Focus sash
Trick room
Desiny bond
Will'o'wisp
Protect
This ralts is for leading weaviles
Weavile uses its choice of dark type attack
Ralts is left at 1 hp by focus sash
Ralts uses trick room
turn 2
Ralts uses desinty bond
Weavile finishes off Ralts
Weavile faints with ralts.
It ain't a perfect way but even if you get trick room off.. weavile is screwed up.
Ralts
evs ain't mattered
Item:Focus sash
Trick room
Desiny bond
Will'o'wisp
Protect
This ralts is for leading weaviles
Weavile uses its choice of dark type attack
Ralts is left at 1 hp by focus sash
Ralts uses trick room
turn 2
Ralts uses desinty bond
Weavile finishes off Ralts
Weavile faints with ralts.
It ain't a perfect way but even if you get trick room off.. weavile is screwed up.
Zook
Perpetual Lazy Bum
Niether of these OHKO.
Ban3
Smash Journeyman
lol this owns
sonofthesky
Smash Journeyman
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Endeavor down to 1 hp, sticky barb takes it out.
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
The same can be said of shuppet, Too bad Koffing doesn't get trick room
Tortured_Soul
Smash Rookie
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Why would you even try? This thread is almost as bad as those 4chan ones...
~T_S
~T_S
outofdashdwz
Smash Lord
Uh. No. Endeavor is a contact move. It'll take away the Hooked Spikes and Smeargle will die at the end of turn.
Seriously, this thread is stupid.
Ilucamy
Smash Journeyman
This thread isn't stupid, did you read the one about Cyndaquil vs. Paras? That's pure genius. Although, once you use that and Shedinja up, yea, this thread is pointless.
Pika25
Smash Apprentice
shuckle gets rollout in emerald and power trick in dp at 48. but I don't think you can breed the same shuckle at level 1 and still get rollout (or for that matter, defense curl), but if it does (assuming Platinum has the same move tutors as Emerald, defense curl and rollout in particular) buneary with choice band and moves switcheroo/substitute/baton pass at level 1 will be in the opposing team. switcheroo to switch choice band to shuckle. and shuckle will have leftovers originally. and attacker's smeargle will have iron defense for moveslot 4. opposing smeargle splashes while attacker's smeargle uses iron defense three times. after shuckle (cranidos' replacement) is baton passed to, the battle will go like this: