Kirby's final smash = Overpowered

[Drack]

When I first saw saw the video of Kirby doing his final smash in midair I didn't think much of it. But consider this:

Kirby gets the smash ball. Jumps to the highest platform, then uses all his jumps to get as high as possible. When Kirby is as close to the top of the level as possible, he activates the final smash.

All Opponents will be shot upwards, getting star KO'd.

 

[Airgemini]

It doesnt suck in every opponent it depends on their proximity to Kirby..
Theres a video somewhere that shows that....

 

[SaxyPlayah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbAyIikOkhU&NR=1

m not sure how DK and Pikachu avoided kirby's final smash, but they did it.

 

[Looper]

atleast they're staying true to the kirby series. kirby was able to use Cook in the air after swallowing the mini-boss.

 

[Nitesever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbAyIikOkhU&NR=1

m not sure how DK and Pikachu avoided kirby's final smash, but they did it.

After watching the movie a few times, it seems to me that Kirby's FS only affects those touching the ground. DK and Pikachu were both midair when the FS was used in this movie.

 

[Flipstar]

I'm thinking that Instead of getting your opponents, it will suck up items instead. There probably is a limit to the amount of things Kirby can put in his pot, although I'm not that sure

 

[Lord Viper]

After watching the movie a few times, it seems to me that Kirby's FS only affects those touching the ground. DK and Pikachu were both midair when the FS was used in this movie.

I don't think it's that, due to many video's that he caught people in mid air. I belive it was the stage that made Kirby miss Pikachu and DK was too far.

 

[Nitesever]

I don't think it's that, due to many video's that he caught people in mid air. I belive it was the stage that made Kirby miss Pikachu and DK was too far.

That's certainly possible, I haven't made a habit of following Kirby movies (or many others for that matter, FFA for the loss). However, the characters that were missed by the FS seemed pretty close to me.

 

[Wave⁂]

That's certainly possible, I haven't made a habit of following Kirby movies (or many others for that matter, FFA for the loss). However, the characters that were missed by the FS seemed pretty close to me.

Yeah, at one point Pikachu walked right over the pot itself.

 

[Airgemini]

Omg I think I know how they avoided it!
Okay look at this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WdNMNFrf8M
Then look at this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbAyIikOkhU&NR=1
It appears that anyone not standing to the side were the pot is will not get sucked in....So as long as you stay on the side wer Kirby is you're okay!

 

[Flipstar]

If that's the case, just jump all the way to the top left corner and use the final smash, auto-KO ^.^

 

[Sandwich]

A top right is fine too.

 

[Kirby Redux]

but in the kyoto vs. tokyo match, ike was left of kirby....

 

[SaxyPlayah]

You possibly think that the pot has like a set capacity limit, cause not only does it suck up Snake, it also sucks up a lot of items, and possibly if i can only have up to lets say 5 objects, then you have Snake and 4 items.

So you think there is a capacity to kirbys pot?

 

[Flipstar]

You possibly think that the pot has like a set capacity limit, cause not only does it suck up Snake, it also sucks up a lot of items, and possibly if i can only have up to lets say 5 objects, then you have Snake and 4 items.

So you think there is a capacity to kirbys pot?

That's what I was thinking before too

 

[Plasmaexe]

I noticed Pikachu and DK were both hanging onto a ledge when Kirby got the smashball and used his final smash. As you know, hanging on the ledge gives you some temporary invincibility to moves (from what I've heard, that's the only way to dodge the assist trophy Lyn). I've seen it in a one on one though and in single matches, it's not that useful. Though it looks pretty useful in a 4 player match.

 

[Dodger]

Can someone please test the final smash with items OFF? I played brawl briefly last week and got the smash ball in a free for all. I sucked up three other characters into the pot, but from what I recall, nothing else happened. No one got shot up into the air. Now, that seems like a huge flaw so maybe there were some details that I missed (perhaps all my opponents were low percent) but I would like some more info on this troubling development.

 

[Izmo]

It's a proximity thing. If you're far enough away from the pot, it won't catch you. I found this out on Corneria, when I jumped to the top while my friend ran way as far as possible. I was near the large hump , basically a little to the right of the middle of the stage, and I couldn't get him in it.

I've since tested it on multiple stages against multiple characters, and the results are the same. There's a certain radius you have with the pot, and anything outside remains uncooked.

To give you a better idea of the radius, I just jumped on the game and went to Pokemon Stadium (The first one, not 2) and put Kirby in the middle of the stage, right in button of the Pokeball on the floor. Then, I put player 3 (Wolf) over on the near the edge of the right side. On that white panel. Only Final Smashes on, no other items or players. If Kirby stays on the ground, jumps once, or jumps twice, and then used the Final Smash, he was still within range to grab Wolf. When I did 3 jumps, I couldn't get him in the pot. I've tested it with Kirby facing both ways, and even with Wolf facing both ways, but nothing I saw pointed to anything other then Wolf's distance from Kirby.

Hopefully that helps out :D If anyone wants me to test other theories out, let me know, but I'm convinced it's the distance between Kirby and his would be meals.

Edit: To answer Dodger, I think you just had some low-percentage opponents ^^ We haven't played with items on, the only item on when we do of course being the Smash Ball itself, and I never have had the situation you described happen to me.

 

[Plasmaexe]

It's a proximity thing. If you're far enough away from the pot, it won't catch you. I found this out on Corneria, when I jumped to the top while my friend ran way as far as possible. I was near the large hump , basically a little to the right of the middle of the stage, and I couldn't get him in it.

I've since tested it on multiple stages against multiple characters, and the results are the same. There's a certain radius you have with the pot, and anything outside remains uncooked.

To give you a better idea of the radius, I just jumped on the game and went to Pokemon Stadium (The first one, not 2) and put Kirby in the middle of the stage, right in button of the Pokeball on the floor. Then, I put player 3 (Wolf) over on the near the edge of the right side. On that white panel. Only Final Smashes on, no other items or players. If Kirby stays on the ground, jumps once, or jumps twice, and then used the Final Smash, he was still within range to grab Wolf. When I did 3 jumps, I couldn't get him in the pot. I've tested it with Kirby facing both ways, and even with Wolf facing both ways, but nothing I saw pointed to anything other then Wolf's distance from Kirby.

Hopefully that helps out :D If anyone wants me to test other theories out, let me know, but I'm convinced it's the distance between Kirby and his would be meals.

Edit: To answer Dodger, I think you just had some low-percentage opponents ^^ We haven't played with items on, the only item on when we do of course being the Smash Ball itself, and I never have had the situation you described happen to me.

That does seem to be the case for DK in that video. But Pikachu was like right next to Kirby when he used it. Those are probably the 2 ways to avoid getting caught by it besides star.

 

[Izmo]

Oh, ya, if he was hanging on the ledge, that would do it too. Sorry ^^; I hadn't recalled the video and blanked over that part of the post for some reason. My apologies!

 

[Plasmaexe]

Oh, ya, if he was hanging on the ledge, that would do it too. Sorry ^^; I hadn't recalled the video and blanked over that part of the post for some reason. My apologies!

Nah that's no problem. Your still right though, it's got a radius it goes by. Otherwise it would be overpowered >_<.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

so no one has figured out a sure way to dodge this yet? or did i miss somethign.

 

[marthownsxd]

I wonder if someone playing as Kirby goes under the stage and uses his Final Smash. Would all the characters that got sucked up bounce off the ceiling of the platform and be sent downwards? I would truly like to see this in video. It would kinda really hurt the purpose of the Final Smash giving items, but it'll be really cool to see.

 

[t!MmY]

I don't think Kirby's Final Smash reaches through barriers (solid walls, ceiling, etc). That means if you use it under the stage you're wasting it unless your opponents are already down there for some reason.

 

[Wave⁂]

Ultimate edgeguard.

 

[toon link 94]

it doesnt suck but it is weak!

 

[ElectroBlade]

It's NOT overpowered, I played Kirby and used it about 4 times. It's NOT overpowered.

 

[SilverBlaze]

In order to dodge the FS, short of being far away, you can either hang on the ledge or do a dodge. The timing is important though. You need to dodge just as Kirby is clashing his pans together, otherwise you'll get sucked in all the same.

 

[Admiral Pit]

I think DK was just out of the FS's range. I don't know how Pikachu dodged it though. Maybe the pot does have a capacity limit.

 

[graceofbass]

Kirby FS

Well, having used Kirby's Final Smash, I'm pretty sure that it sicks in characters and items who are close to Kirby's pot. Once I was at the top of a big stage in VS. mode and used it, and it only got one person because everyone else was too far away. I have, however, gotten everyone in it before, so I don't think there's any kind of limit to the amount it sucks in, it's a proximity thing.