Janon social thread : Lair of the Floating Back Slapping Missile Reflecting King of Evil

[CORY]

FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAT!

 

[CORY]

guys, floaaaat!

 

[Meme]

Projectile reflection too... oh gawd...

 

[CORY]

i'm requesting clearance to speak about what i know on it, since i played a dev build quite a while ago (mostly don't know how much of the move got tweaked).

 

[ItsRainingGravy]

...I can't believe that they actually used my idea.


http://smashboards.com/threads/gano...ggestions-go-here.341662/page-8#post-16437671
http://smashboards.com/threads/if-you-could-change-1-thing.348135/page-5

This is absolutely amazing.

 

[Datnox]

Can anyone think of some immediate uses of the float?

 

[CORY]

so, **** it, i'll talk about the basics that shouldn't have changed. it's only two days from now:

b on the ground is the backhand reflect thing. don't know what they've done with it in the almost 6 months or so since i've played, so i don't know about timing and hitboxes.

b in the air starts your float. you don't get a whole lot of aerial control during it, but you can get some drift. when i played it, you slowly descended. if you press b again (or hold it down) you backhand in the air. if you just float, you lose it as soon as you do anything. only one float per airtime (when i played you needed to stand on the stage to refresh it, not just grab the ledge).

no float cancelling aerials, no repeated aerials during float. it's hype but not entirely stupid.

 

[CORY]

Can anyone think of some immediate uses of the float?

it lets you change up approach options so you're not so committed to everything.

it also help(ed) go SUPER deep on edgeguards. or just deal with people stalling while you were edgeguarding.

you can also use it on tech setups to delay your fall if you think they're going to not tech, then getup attack or something.

 

[MerzA]

CALLED IT!

http://smashboards.com/threads/rumor-has-it.354002/

 

[Bazkip]

Was that a new spot dodge animation I spotted at ~1:41?

Also new fsmash at 2:12? Or is that also the neutral B?

 

[MerzA]

Was that a new spot dodge animation I spotted at ~1:41?

Also new fsmash at 2:12? Or is that also the neutral B?

Thats the fsmash, yep

 

[Bazkip]

Thats the fsmash, yep

Sweeeeeet

 

[ViewtifulHoe242]

Meh, I only wanted a better grab range. I'll wait till I play it to make judgements, and if i dont like it then i won't use it.Its not like i ever used the neutral b anyway. Edit: HE STILL NEEDS THIS

 

[Xinc]

I really don't see much groundbreaking about Ganon's new float, other than possibly increased recovery, which is something we asked for a while back. Can't wait to experiment on Friday though. Heheheheheh.

I'm asking for a better grab range tho. :o

 

[Comeback Kid]

A useless move is now useful. And they made it completely canon to OoT, all without making him into another sword user.

Biased PMDT be praised.

 

[CORY]

you now don't need to commit super hard to approaches (you can jump in like you're f/nairing, then just hover and gauge a reaction first, for example. also basic attack timing changeups). and you can float over projectiles for a little bit to help deal with that issue to an extent.

and offstage, recovery isn't even the big part about it. this is a special move. you don't lose your jump. the edgeguards...

 

[pooch182]

Float means you have no excuse foe dropping a tech chase on a platform.

 

[Hungry Headcrab]

I really need to get my hands on that float. I need to know how it works. Every detail.

3.5 can't come soon enough.

 

[Bazkip]

Bow to the new King of Project M. pic.twitter.com/IHWDyGlO6L

— Omni ☕️ (@InfernoOmni) November 12, 2014

 

[RelaxAlax]

Platforms are a lot more scary for Ganon now.

The wavelands are gonna be so crisp.

Cant weight to pLAY

 

[ArcDawn]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT

"The king of evil takes flight"

 

[RelaxAlax]

Actually, I only wanted a better grab and changes to his already had moveset.

This outdoes my expectations and I welcome it with open arms to learn.
Whether it makes him better or not, we Ganon fo life.
Also change the social thread name :]

 

[Hungry Headcrab]

Also change the social thread name :]

Ganon Social Thread: HOLY **** WE CAN FLY NOW

 

[RelaxAlax]

Ganon: Personally, I prefer the air.


and world domination, give or take.

 

[Electric Tuba]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

based pmdt is real


Well, like I said in some thread a year ago I guess it's time to money match every Meta Knight in texas to make up for brawl.

 

[Yanoss1313]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTT

What is this voodoo!?!?!?! Do my eyes deceive?

And i remember suggesting a backhand reflector like a year and a half ago. But then again, Who DIDN'T suggest something like that aye?

 

[Shell]

I'll put together a post or thread discussing the nB, probably upon release. While many people here are pretty hyped up about it I'm aware that others would still appreciate more explanation on what motivated us to make it, how it functions, usage suggestions, and the deliberate design calls we made to get it to complement his kit without warping his playstyle.

 

[Hokori]

I'm so excited to get back into PM now with The Dorf. Omg.

 

[TTTTTsd]

This, boys, is the era of Ganondorf. It is time to truly conquer all.

 

[RelaxAlax]

I'll put together a post or thread discussing the nB, probably upon release. While many people here are pretty hyped up about it I'm aware that others would still appreciate more explanation on what motivated us to make it, how it functions, usage suggestions, and the deliberate design calls we made to get it to complement his kit without warping his playstyle.

The float and reflector ? I think someone said they're the same button, but I'm interested in their full uses. Reflector does look complementary indeed and it doesn't look insanely exploitable. Rather, it's got a particular use at a particular place that discourages opponents with projectiles which, I know many of us can agree, are amongst Ganons hardest match ups in 3.02.

From looking at it, it doesn't seem too laggy but totally punishable from up close. Curious to see it's full functions.

Float I'm more interested to hear. I was scared of an uprgade to the dorf that changed him too much from his feel, but this seems fitting and not too exploitable. It'll up Ganons game but to a point where it helps him do what he does int 3.02 better and without so much risk.

But what do I know eh?

 

[Bazkip]

Had a Warlock Punch only free for all on Temple with some guys on Netplay as a farewell to Warlock Punch.

rip Warlock Punch you will be missed but not really.

 

[teluoborg]

Yeah well from my point of view it's no use theorycrafting over 3.5s of footage when we're 2 days away from testing it.

I just hope the PM site will whistand the traffic this time (spoiler : it won't).

Also updated thread title.

 

[TTTTTsd]

...I can't believe that they actually used my idea.
his is absolutely amazing.

Keep suggesting new things, you masterful prophet!

But yes this is incredibly hype and only adds to Ganondorf's 3.02 arsenal with new ways to make less ridiculous commitments and even disrespect projectiles to an EXTENT.

 

[DarkStarStorm]

Enjoy your float Pea--Ganon mains! Congrats on getting buffs, may you use them to stomp puny Mewtwos around. Teach them a new meaning of "float!"

I'm a Zelda main, and I'm just going to sit in this corner over here and...let you take over... :'-(

 

[ShadowGanon]

Man... The PMDT is so considerate. Hits me right in the feels. They really didn't have make their release date the day before my birthday...

Hey, @ CORY , does the reflecting backhand thing (we really need a name for it) have an actual hitbox on it?

 

[Nguz95]

I vote for pimp slap. Best name.

 

[TTTTTsd]

I want the slap to have a hitbox so I can float offstage and pimpslap gimp recoveries for extra disrespect points.

 

[Xinc]

I guess we can no longer smoke weed everyday.

 

[BlitznBurst]

Oh Ganon's been buffed? That's cool, now if only I could actually play as hi-

HOLY **** PAL RELEASE

THANK YOU BASED PMBR

 

[Shin F.]

Was curious, just came around to see what the reception to Ganon's changes were since I use him as a bit of a secondary character. I'm pretty hype about them myself!

Man... The PMDT is so considerate. Hits me right in the feels. They really didn't have make their release date the day before my birthday...

Hey, @ CORY , does the reflecting backhand thing (we really need a name for it) have an actual hitbox on it?

I've been seeing people refer to it as Dead Man's Volley. Kinda makes sense.