It's-a-me! Mario! Wait, it's not Mario, it's Jumpman! New OP that's not horrible!

[Superyoshiom]

It would make for a pretty funny retro surprise character, much like Game and Watch or R.O.B.

 

[Gallowglass]

Thought you guys might like this. Another "Jumpman" game called Donkey Kong Circus

And this is an interesting video about Mario's darker side. (Where I found out about the game)

 

[BluePikmin11]

So I watched the whole video, I didn't really know I was killing a Toad every time I crushed a brick. We should start a riot soon.
Kidding aside, I'm now really interested in having Jumpman, I think Sakurai could get the villain out of Jumpman if he's planned for the game.

 

[CrossoverMan]

This could be the plot for Jumpman being in Smash Bros:

You see that other Mario hoisting up DK in the intro for Donkey Kong Jr? Well that was Mario's decoy, also known as Jumpman. Mario never wanted to hurt Donkey Kong or Donkey Kong Junior, and simply wanted to contain the two apes for their journey home to Donkey Kong Country. But Jumpman was tired of being in his idol's shadow, and began to show some violent tendencies. He tied up Mario, shoved Donkey Kong into a tiny cage, and tries to kill Donkey Kong Junior while disguised as Mario. After that event, Jumpman went into hiding, until he hears of the new Smash Bros tournament, where he hopes to kick Mario's pimply Italian ass.

 

[CrossoverMan]

Sakurai could instead include Mario from the Super Mario Bros Super Show, who could alternate between his real life and cartoon forms.

 

[Louie G.]

"It's-a-me! Mario! Wait, it's not Mario, it's Jumpman!"
No, it's still Mario.

 

[BluePikmin11]

This could be the plot for Jumpman being in Smash Bros:

You see that other Mario hoisting up DK in the intro for Donkey Kong Jr? Well that was Mario's decoy, also known as Jumpman. Mario never wanted to hurt Donkey Kong or Donkey Kong Junior, and simply wanted to contain the two apes for their journey home to Donkey Kong Country. But Jumpman was tired of being in his idol's shadow, and began to show some violent tendencies. He tied up Mario, shoved Donkey Kong into a tiny cage, and tries to kill Donkey Kong Junior while disguised as Mario. After that event, Jumpman went into hiding, until he hears of the new Smash Bros tournament, where he hopes to kick Mario's pimply Italian ***.

Or maybe Mario could twist his head in 360 degrees and turn into Jumpman.

"It's-a-me! Mario! Wait, it's not Mario, it's Jumpman!"

No, it's still Mario.

With a much more abusing mood than you think.

 

[Louie G.]

With a much more abusing mood than you think.

But it's still Mario.
In fact it is the exact same Mario we know and love.
Jumpman is already in Smash Bros. guys.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Just because Jumpman is Mario doesn't mean Sakurai will dismiss the idea you know. >.>

 

[Louie G.]

Just because Jumpman is Mario doesn't mean Sakurai will dismiss the idea you know. >.>

No, it doesn't.
It means that Sakurai has never even considered the idea.
So many retro characters had trophies in Melee. Did Jumpman?
Mario was even said to be Jumpman in his trophy description!
I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but I'm saying that I doubt the thought has even come to Sakurai's mind.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well there is the hammer item from Donkey Kong you know.
And also the 75m stage.

 

[Louie G.]

Well there is the hammer item from Donkey Kong you know.
And also the 75m stage.

So that means that Sakurai has acknowledged Donkey Kong (arcade), not Jumpman.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Jumpman doesn't really have to have a trophy or any kind of content really in order to be considered.
The point is that Jumpman can be considered, even if he is Mario, Sakurai can make the ol villainous version of Mario with creative thought put into it.

 

[Louie G.]

Sure.
I'd definitely be a waste of a DK slot though.
imo at least.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Sure.
I'd definitely be a waste of a DK slot though.

Not really, if the character is done right. (Which probably Sakurai strives to be creative)

 

[Louie G.]

Not really, if the character is done right. (Which probably Sakurai strives to be creative)

Yes really, if he gets in over K. Rool or Dixie Kong.
Seriously, that would be something I could never get over.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Not all characters that are popularly requested means they are in the game already. I think he has said before in one Brawl journal that having only popular characters in the roster doesn't really get him excited. He may pick Cranky and Jumpman over K. Rool and Dixie, you never know what direction he'll go for the DK franchise.

 

[Louie G.]

Not all characters that are popularly requested means they are in the game already. I think he has said before in one Brawl journal that having only popular characters in the roster doesn't really get him excited. He may pick Cranky and Jumpman over K. Rool and Dixie, you never know what direction he'll go for a franchise.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying that it will be extremely disappointing to a strong majority of the Smash fanbase.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying that it will be extremely disappointing to a strong majority of the Smash fanbase.

That will happen obviously, but once you see the character in action, you might change your mind.
Rosalina's inclusion actually changed my views on her before, before they were pretty much blabbers like "It's too late for her to become playable" and Galaxy games apparently not significant enough to the Mario franchise". Now I really like Rosalina's moveset to this day.

 

[Pacack]

I can't believe I actually like this idea.

 

[Spire]

I understand the premise of this thread, but Jumpman was simply Mario's name before he was Mario.

Ganon was originally Gannon. Peach was Princess Toadstool in the west. Names get retconned sometimes.

Mario's signature aspect is jumping, hence the emphasis in every Mario game. Mario's Up-Special is essentially Jumpman's jump.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

I can't believe this topic is still active. What is even happening here?

I'm not saying it's a bad idea

I am. I will say it for you. This is a bad idea. I feel like people are so desperate to try and predict whatever crazy retro choice Sakurai might go with that they're willing to consider absolutely anything, and to a degree, that makes sense, but this is where I have to draw the line. No offense to any of the supporters, of course, but... c'mon, guys... really? Really? I truly, in my heart of hearts, want to believe this is all one big troll. You guys... you guys are all just joking, right? D: I have to assume that you are all only taking it semi-seriously, at least, or else my brain might explode XD Ah well, if you're having fun with the idea, then more power to ya, I guess.

 

[Pacack]

I can't believe this topic is still active. What is even happening here?



I am. I will say it for you. This is a bad idea. I feel like people are so desperate to try and predict whatever crazy retro choice Sakurai might go with that they're willing to consider absolutely anything, and to a degree, that makes sense, but this is where I have to draw the line. No offense to any of the supporters, of course, but... c'mon, guys... really? Really? I truly, in my heart of hearts, want to believe this is all one big troll. You guys... you guys are all just joking, right? D: I have to assume that you are all only taking it semi-seriously, at least, or else my brain might explode XD Ah well, if you're having fun with the idea, then more power to ya, I guess.

I'm pretty sure that most of us are only semi-serious when responding to this thread. I am, at least.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

Dear god I hope so.

Back-reading this thread, I see a page or 2 of it aren't even really about Jumpman, which explains a bit.

Now, one thing that I do think would be amazing is if all of the characters had retro-skins/sprites for alt-costumes, although I'm sure that would require a lot of effort in terms of adjusting hitboxes and creating skins for non-retro characters, amongst various other things. A man can dream, though!

 

[BluePikmin11]

The retro sprites idea sounds pretty unlikely, just give it to someone who could properly use the 8-bit design like Jumpman or Sheriff that makes them distinct.

 

[Spire]

The retro sprites idea sounds pretty unlikely, just give it to someone who could properly use the 8-bit design like Jumpman or Sheriff that makes them distinct.

Jumpman or Sheriff that makes them distinct.

Jumpman or Sheriff

Sheriff

Now there's a fair contender for a retro character. Is your attraction to Jumpman rooted in his <1% chance of getting in the game?

 

[BluePikmin11]

No? I still like Jumpman, he's good with the villainous design or the 8-bit look either way.
And he has moveset potential no matter how much you hate the idea.

 

[CrossoverMan]

While seeing Jumpman in 8-bit form sounds cool on paper, I can see Nintendo just basing his appearance off the DK boxart or something.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

My retro idea is completely unlikely, but that doesn't mean I want to see a single character get a retro version of himself added under the guise of a "different" character, either XD Sheriff, ok, although I have a hard time imagining them using his sprite. I'm thinking G&W will retain his spot as the only 2D character.

 

[Davidreamcatcha]

If Jumpman were to happen, I'd prefer to see him in a form based on the cabinet art rather than another sprite character.

 

[StaffofSmashing]

this thread was active while I was gone. Holy shiz

Well, take a Revival Herb Jumpman, you deserve it.

So I keep thinking on the possibilities for Jumpman. Barrels, Hammers, Fire Barrels, and I wonder, should I email this idea to Sakurai? Nah, but anyway, keep up the good work Jumpman.

 

[Sobreviviente]

Im an actual jumpman supporter now for some reason... i guess the idea of a wariofed clone of mario sounds just too awesome in general

 

[StaffofSmashing]

-bumps again-

Jumpman is still here folks! The #1 most unlikely likely alteration of a character in smash.

Whatevs, lets get some discussion back in this hizzy!

 

[Cobalsh]

But it's still Mario.
In fact it is the exact same Mario we know and love.
Jumpman is already in Smash Bros. guys.

So because OoT Link was in Melee, we totally didn't get OoT Lik as a kid, right? It would ruin Smash's non-existant canon!

Well, I support, mother****ers!

 

[Gallowglass]

I've notice a lot of similarities in the Jumpman debates as I do in the Paper Mario debates. Personally, we only need one Mario for Smash.

 

[StaffofSmashing]

Who is ready for Jumpman to be revealed at E3?

 

[StaffofSmashing]

Alrighty then, so we have some more stuff that could potentially point the consideration of Jumpman.
We have Dr. Mario, and that's all you guys are going to throw at me that has a good meaning. I go want to point out that there have been as many Marios as there have Links. since Mario is more represented than Zelda, why the **** not wait.

The Blue Mario / Jumpman costume is gone. That's great. We know that Alt costumes do reference old stuff, like Luigi having the color from the japanese-exclusive animated film thing. This is good for us Jumpman supporters because we know they had a reason for taking the inverse-Mario color out. But what that reason is is a mystery.

75m is back. Fantastic. Wrecking Crew stage. Fantastic.

So what to you guys think? Is Jumpman planned or was planned, or do have the people who have posted in this thread think he's still Mario.
So is Doc, he got in the game.

 

[Freduardo]

How does Donkey Kong '94 fit into Jumpman's cannon?

Spoiler

As mega man looks around the stage select screen, he sees Wily's eight new robot masters. Jump Man, Fairy Man, Dinosaur Man, Fox Man, Electric Mouse Man, WoMan (Samus), Puff Man, and Kong Man.

And that's how Mega Man got into Smash brothers.

 

[BluePikmin11]

A Hanafuda character and Jumpman are pretty much the remaining contenders for a historical character for the next installments now.
I don't expect Jumpman as DLC mainly because there's bare demand and no new game starring Mario's villainous form. I'd just wait 7 years for him to happen IMO.

 

[StaffofSmashing]

...
TBH I've given up on Jumpman as well. I'm just trying to postpone him. I'll wait until Smash for the Wii W (get it, Double-U, like Wii U, complicated) and the Nintendo 4Ds until I can give our inverse overall villain plumber a new shot at the roster.

I'm closing off this discussion until something pops up, etc.
Someone lock this until further notice (please?)