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Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

Nysyarc

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Seriously? Isn't Ganon's the shortest? I didn't realize their mid-air jumps were that close in height... unless Ganon's is just that much worse than everyone else.

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Ah that makes sense now that I think about it; where did I read that Ganon's was the shortest?

Still though, Ike's is second shortest? Where's the thread with this data? And it must not count characters with multiple mid-air jumps or something.


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I think FD > SV, not that it's good. :laugh:
Fair enough, but I still disagree, lol.

Lol, your link included your search for "Midair jump height" so all those words are in big red boxes in the thread.

I'm still a bit skeptical though because the dude says himself that he got those figures just from eyeballing it in real-time and didn't do any actual frame-by-frame testing. Plus he never really specifies what the value of 1 is on a scale relative to the other values. Guess he probably wasn't too far off but I'm still fully confident Ganon's mid-air jump is shorter than Ike's, if only by a tiny amount.


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Sematics, its close enough. Doesn't change Ike's 2nd jump is short

But that can be nice for on stage gameplay now since you don't jump too far away.
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Ganon can't double jump onto the stage, Ike can. I doubt that Ike's is shorter than Ganon's.

Ike's short double jump is sometimes a good thing.
 

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Can't ledge hop uair o.O? Maybe i just think i saw it before..

Let me check Verm's vids

Edit: Verm vs Razor, Verm uairs off the ledge onto the stage, laglessly (no aerial landin lag basically)
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Maybe there's some trick, but Ike can easily just jump back on the stage after letting go from the ledge
 

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Ganon can't double jump onto the stage
Actually he can, but just barely so it almost never works. I've done it a few times before with an air-dodge, although I don't think an Uair or any aerial for that matter would be a good idea because none of them would auto-cancel when he lands.

But yah, it's way easier with Ike, and even easier with DK to the point of it not even being safe for DK because his air-dodge doesn't cover him the whole time he's in the air like it does with Ike.


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DK has a big jump, otherwise his recovery would suck so much if he had no height in his jump.

Ganon's can laglessly land with uair thats it.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnydiAsEjTQ This is a video showing that AC Uair. And other than Uair, only Bair and air dodge auto cancel. The reason of why Ganon can't double jump offstage in a normal way can be his very tall height. Ganon needs needs to have a huge part of his body being above the stage in order to land onstage.
 

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Yeah, guys, Ganon get get back on the ledge with every aerial he has, plus his airdodge. The timing is just extraordinarily tricky. :p
 

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yeah. isnt it called the zigman? i know its requires an AT to get up with an autocancelled uair. you cna also just airdodge up. but the timing is strict

also. it took me a couple of seconds to figure out if this was the ike boards or the ganon boards. they meshed in this social XD
 

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Falcon too busy moaning over how dash momentum doesn't carry over with jumping anyway. A half way across the stage falcon punch was so funny.

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yeah. isnt it called the zigman? i know its requires an AT to get up with an autocancelled uair. you cna also just airdodge up. but the timing is strict

also. it took me a couple of seconds to figure out if this was the ike boards or the ganon boards. they meshed in this social XD
Close; the flipman. I think Nyke already posted a video of me versus Razer doing it for reference. (Which I appreciate :D)
 

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Falcon too busy moaning over how dash momentum doesn't carry over with jumping anyway. A half way across the stage falcon punch was so funny.

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You mean like this??? Oh, half way across the stage falcon punch...

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Close; the flipman. I think Nyke already posted a video of me versus Razer doing it for reference. (Which I appreciate :D)
gah
tell me...why do ALL of our ganonic techs have the word 'man' in there at some point?
i mean everyone knows ganondorf is manly as balls. we dont need to verify it other than with our electric heels
 

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yeah. british people dont talk like that...at all
although i do enjoy using the word bloody. and bugger...but yknow
 
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