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If there was ever a time that you wanted to save Melee, it better be now.

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Mike G

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This is indeed a devastating blow to us in the melee community. Guys, Brawl has MLG "pro status" Do you know what this means? possibly Free flights, free hotels, halo fan girls! HALO FAN GIRLS! LOL Trust me, I was there in the glory days of melee. ;_;


lol but seriously, we need to think of something fast. =/


Good stuff for brawl tho, i guess lol
 

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This is indeed a devastating blow to us in the melee community. Guys, Brawl has MLG "pro status" Do you know what this means? possibly Free flights, free hotels, halo fan girls! HALO FAN GIRLS! LOL Trust me, I was there in the glory days of melee. ;_;


lol but seriously, we need to think of something fast. =/


Good stuff for brawl tho, i guess lol
man so many people might leave melee for brawl now
and brawl will become even more popular...
 

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I may not care for the game but, good for Brawl I guess. I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of reception this gets when the time comes. It's not like the matches are as hype as Melee's... :chuckle:
 

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****...good for smash in general but bad for melee. Really bad for melee. :(
 

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****.



An All-Out Brawl
The Super Smash Bros. series is deeply intertwined with MLG’s roots, and we are thrilled to announce that Super Smash Bros. Brawl for the Nintendo Wii will be joining the Pro Circuit in 2010, marking a triumphant return for the franchise. With an intensely devoted fanbase and a fiercely high level of competition, Brawl will undoubtedly find itself right at home alongside the Pro Circuit’s other world-class titles.

Registration for MLG Orlando Opens March 17 at 7pm ET
The top 16 ranked players overall will earn pro status following the second Live Competition
Over $60,000 in season prizes. Full prize list
The first Super Smash Bros. Brawl Online Qualifier will be for MLG Columbus, and will help players boost their seed at all live competitions. Online Qualifier registration opens on March 15, and competition begins on March 29.
More info coming soon!


http://www.mlgpro.com/content/news/302153/MLG-Announces-First-2010-Pro-Circuit-Details
 

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dammit

I'm happy that MLG is picking up Smash again but seeing Brawl have that kind of sponsorship over Melee is just depressing really. The only way this can possibly be good for Melee is if there were Melee side events at MLG, but I'm not sure if MLG would let that happen. Surely there will be many new competitive players now so we have to find a way to draw them into Melee.
 

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Maybe after a season of barlw they'll realize it's a terrible game and bring back melee.

edit: Is there any other types of organizations that would be willing to sponsor melee? I know it probably couldn't be anywhere MLG's size, but surely it's a start...
 

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We should be looking at this as an opportunity. This move should finally kill any unrealistic dreams of Melee returning to MLG, or of Melee even returning to its post-MLG glory days. We need to get serious about this, and the hard truth seems to be that Melee is well on its way (and in many ways, already is) to being a side event.

That may dound like defeatism, but maybe we can re-adjust our priorities from "saving Melee" to "maintaining Melee." We continue to fight a losing battle by going head-up against Brawl. The majority of people have spoken: they don't want to play our game anymore, for several reasons that we really can't do anything about. Instead of trying to convince new players to join the Melee ranks (which simply is not going to happen), we should focus on developing those players who have stuck with Melee, and turn our attentions inwards. Honestly, Brawl being picked up by MLG shouldn't have any bearing on what we do, because in reality it doesn't affect us at all. If MLG hadn't picked up Brawl for 2010, would they have picked up Melee? We all know the answer to that.

Let's make Melee a small, close-knit community where, by virtue of our size (or lack thereof), we're a super-competitive and highly skilled group. Brawl being picked up should be the deathknell of our delusions of granduer of returning Melee to its place as the preeminent Smash game, because that wasn't going to happen regardless of MLG's decision. Let's take this moment to re-evaluate and change course, stop fighting an enemy we can't defeat and make Melee the best side event it can be. Melee is only going to contract from here as the remaining players age out, so let's make the best of it.




As a sidenote, I think our only hope for expanding Melee (or at least Melee-style gameplay) is Project M, but that's a post for another day.
 

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We've been playing a niche game for years. It's about to get a whole lot nichier!

You guys didn't see this eventually happening? MLG are whores for $$$
 

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This is good for the melee community.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9683187&postcount=198

I played Halo 3 before I played Halo 2, I played WoW before WC3 or Starcraft, etc. etc. etc. What I'm trying to say is that as long as people play the sequel, there's going to be a certain amount looking back at the original. Brawl getting more publicity can only be good for Melee. It's not like Brawl getting into the MLG pro circuit is suddenly going to rob Melee of all it's professional players. It isn't Armageddon, calm down.

I, personally, am one of the people that played Brawl with friends for months, then came back to Melee when I found I wanted to play one of them competitively.

If melee's still alive now, it's probably not going anywhere for a little while. Especially if the next smash game follows the same "Party Game" design as Brawl.
 

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If anything this will just attract new people towards smash in general, and once when they see how terrible Brawl is, individuals might transition back. I think Jam got this right.
But the thing is, this won't happen. People don't say, "Oh man, I don't like Street Fighter 4, let me go try out Street Fighter 3." They buy a new, current game.
 

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But the thing is, this won't happen. People don't say, "Oh man, I don't like Street Fighter 4, let me go try out Street Fighter 3." They buy a new, current game.
Brawl and Melee are way more different from each other than installments in the Street Fighter series.

Brawl people who don't know much about melee, then see someone playing melee at something higher than noob level (where it looks much faster and more exciting), can still be drawn into the game.
 

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But the thing is, this won't happen. People don't say, "Oh man, I don't like Street Fighter 4, let me go try out Street Fighter 3." They buy a new, current game.
I don't think your analogy works quite right. Anyone who becomes attracted to Brawl because of it being picked up by MLG will have some inkling of Brawl having a competitive community. Anyone who sees Brawl's competitive community will eventually see Melee's competitive community. We will still get some new faces just because of people introduced to Smash through Brawl.

C'mon guys. Really? If Melee survived THE RELEASE of Brawl, we can certainly survive the reinitialization of Brawl to the MLG Pro Circuit. Calm down.
 

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But the thing is, this won't happen. People don't say, "Oh man, I don't like Street Fighter 4, let me go try out Street Fighter 3." They buy a new, current game.
they dont need to play a new current game if they have enough competetion in the game... in this case melee. Melee players are doing a great job anyway theres no need to alarm because this happened.
 

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About time they finally made the circuit though. Looks like they had to take their 2 years to finally accept out of pity. The vids are going to be pretty whack though. Ksizzle screaming into Ally's ear as a defense mechanism.
 

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Brawl and Melee are way more different from each other than installments in the Street Fighter series.

Brawl people who don't know much about melee, then see someone playing melee at something higher than noob level (where it looks much faster and more exciting), can still be drawn into the game.
You're missing the point.

The problem isn't Brawl, the problem is time! Melee is nine years old, on a system that isn't in production anymore (I know that the Wii plays Gamecube discs, but you can bet that NO ONE bought a Wii to play Gamecube games), with characters that no one cares about anymore, witht the exception of Mario, Link and Samus. Melee is fighting against time, and that time has been given a physical form on a Brawl disc. Brawl doesn't have to be better, it only has to be newer!

That is why we have to get away from the mistaken belief that Melee can still grow, because we frame it as a Melee vs. Brawl battle, as in "If only people didn't play Brawl they'd play Melee!" They wouldn't; they'd play something NEW, even if that meant leaving the Smash community entirely.
 

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You're missing the point.

The problem isn't Brawl, the problem is time! Melee is nine years old, on a system that isn't in production anymore (I know that the Wii plays Gamecube discs, but you can bet that NO ONE bought a Wii to play Gamecube games), with characters that no one cares about anymore, witht the exception of Mario, Link and Samus. Melee is fighting against time, and that time has been given a physical form on a Brawl disc. Brawl doesn't have to be better, it only has to be newer!

That is why we have to get away from the mistaken belief that Melee can still grow, because we frame it as a Melee vs. Brawl battle, as in "If only people didn't play Brawl they'd play Melee!" They wouldn't; they'd play something NEW, even if that meant leaving the Smash community entirely.
Dude stfu youre being really really negative...
 

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It's not to be negative, but to point out that we waste alot of time and energy in the impossible task of attracting newcomers instead of strengthening what we have.
 

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Good to see smash back in MLG.

To bad it's the wrong game.
Lolowned
man so many people might leave melee for brawl now
and brawl will become even more popular...
Lol, so?
About time they finally made the circuit though. Looks like they had to take their 2 years to finally accept out of pity. The vids are going to be pretty whack though. Ksizzle screaming into Ally's ear as a defense mechanism.
I know. C:

To be honest there is no reason to be upset about. Brawl makes MLG and Melee doesn't? So what, this isn't the end of Melee and you should feel dumb for thinking it is.
 

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I doubt Brawl will be a part of the MLG circuit for a long time. And I honestly don't think that Melee is dead just because Brawl is played at MLG level. Melee has a much more dedicated community, so if that doesn't change, we're still gonna be around for a while.
 

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Additionally, it's not like Brawl going MLG means Genesis and Pound 4 didn't happen. I'll give you that they happened in the absence of MLG sponsored Brawl , but they were still the biggest tournaments for Melee to date were they not? We're in a time where Europeans are coming over and beasting in the states, where Melee is on a small climb back up after the release of Brawl... If people don't give up on the game it won't go anywhere.
 

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Melee is nine years old, on a system that isn't in production anymore (I know that the Wii plays Gamecube discs, but you can bet that NO ONE bought a Wii to play Gamecube games), with characters that no one cares about anymore, witht the exception of Mario, Link and Samus. Melee is fighting against time, and that time has been given a physical form on a Brawl disc. Brawl doesn't have to be better, it only has to be newer!
How long have people played starcraft for? Time doesn't matter when a game has timeless gameplay. Melee is one of those games. The fact that the Wii plays gamecube disks and that melee is extremely easy to find since it was such a great game that was in production for so long means that hardware is not an issue. Who cares what you bought a wii for. I bought a wii thinking there would be good games on it, but I was pretty much wrong and my wii plays more GC games than anything. I'm sure I'm not the only who feels this way lol.

Do people really care about the characters in Brawl much more?

I don't give a **** about diddy kong, olimar, metaknight, pit, lucario, or pokemon trainer. Snake and Sonic are from good games, but feel out of place due to them not even being nintendo characters. Ike's alright, but whatever, that's only because I'm an FE junky. 90% of the characters they've added are just as old as Link, Samus, and Mario. In many cases, they're from series that have origins predating many of the ones that were in melee.
 

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jam you pessimist /:

good job bawrl maylay bout to get ^ too

(i dont understand what your saying. i as well as many other smashers play for fun, because we enjoy the game. of course it'd be nice / we want to get into a pro circuit but its not like we are RELYING on it. even if that, theres no reason to not stop, we're not losing anything from putting out our own pov that melee is a really competitive game etc..)
 
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