IC vs. Samus on FD

[Wilhelmsan]

This is totally in Samus's favor, what with better projectiles, smash attacks that outrange my tilts and a killer recovery.

I can't even beat my scrub friends in this matchup. Help.

 

[Speedsk8er]

LOL I have the same problem. My friend likes to launch missiles non-stop and then shoulder-tackle when I'm close. It's hard to close the gap without getting pummeled but I manage to come out on top. BARELY.

 

[tofucake]

Waveshield to shieldgrab.

 

[E_Ress]

^Yeah, that's how I approach usually.

Scrub Sami (<_< Yeah, that's how I say it plural) usually get giddy when you get in close, and as said Speed said, shoulder tackle a TON.

At that point, you could WD back into a Jump-Cancelled grab or WD back into a smash (FSmash is the best choice in that situation).

Against a good Samus though... he's pretty much got you beat.

 

[6th Sense]

Waveshield to shieldgrab.

what he said....combo the **** outta him with your grabs

desynch IC's ice blocks for edge guarding...Helps me win try it

 

[Negative Zero]

At that point, you could WD back into a Jump-Cancelled grab or WD back into a smash (FSmash is the best choice in that situation).

If you're wavedashing...why jump cancel the grab?

 

[chu12ch]

My tactic vs samus is to lose the first game, then pick ganon on battlefield... I gave up the samus vs ic matchup...

 

[DynamicDuo]

IC vs Samus can go either way but when im going up against a samus player in a tournament i say to myself "SCREW IC's!!!!! IM GOING SHEIK!!!!!!"

 

[Speedsk8er]

LOL I have the same problem. My friend likes to launch missiles non-stop and then shoulder-tackle when I'm close. It's hard to close the gap without getting pummeled but I manage to come out on top. BARELY.

My Samus friend recently had a revelation. He calls me cheap for doing a desynched Ice Block approach, right? So he decides to launch missiles NON-****ING-STOP, shouldertackle through my sheild, run to the other side of FD and continue launching. My sheild can't take that kind of punishment so I figured I would try something else. I can't get the timing down yet because I'm not skilled enough but maybe you guys can test this out. The Climbers should be desynched.

As you guys know(or should know), The Parka twins' Dair cancels out a missile so I figured that by doing a desynched Dair approach, it may eliminate the threat of a missile spammer entirely! Basically, while doing the Block approach, if a missile is headed your way, have either Popo or Nana(whoever's turn it is to attack) short hop in front and Dair. If they continue, alternate accordingly. You'll gradually get closer(hopefully) unscathed and you can follow up with your own attack. As a side note, desynched Dair may also work with a wall as a psuedo-Drill shine infinite, since Dair's knockback is constant, no matter what %age.

Please note that I have NOT gotten the timing for this down so I'm not positively sure that it works. If one of you guys could test it out while I'm researching, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Wobbles]

Well, I doubt it would work just because any smart Samus player would see you approaching and just f-tilt you out of your d-air.

You would probably be better off slowly approaching with angled f-tilts. Break the missile, start walking, then try and maintain a distance where you can react to Samus' approach. B-air also works to do this, but the timing is harder.

 

[Wilhelmsan]

I can't approach with F-tilts, because that means I eat a charge shot to the face. By the time I recover, he has another one ready.

 

[Hylian]

Will...why don't you just shield when they charge shot?

 

[Wilhelmsan]

You'd think it would be that simple. But what do you do after that?

 

[Hissatsu2k9]

Wavedash outta sheild

 

[Red Exodus]

Duck and make them come closer, unless the SHthe missle so it flies along the ground... then you're screwed.