"I See All" - Palutena Video Thread

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · Apr 9, 2015

Vids from Shockwave 22!

Vs. Cha0tic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXSWxzOQ_E&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=8

Vs. Denti (Winners) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHM5eYL9HDA&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=26

Vs. Dakpo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksatzdj2zJE&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=22

Vs. Denti (Losers Semifinals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRm2FEdBl2E&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=21

xnine · Apr 9, 2015

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster said:
Vids from Shockwave 22!

Vs. Cha0tic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXSWxzOQ_E&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=8

Vs. Denti (Winners) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHM5eYL9HDA&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=26

Vs. Dakpo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksatzdj2zJE&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=22

Vs. Denti (Losers Semifinals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRm2FEdBl2E&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RbVPbY9V4DadzRspshqk50&index=21

That spike on Denti in the loser's semifinals, last match, was insane! And, that last stock was so close; I didn't think Diddy's u-air would kill there.

Anyways, really good matches man.

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · Apr 11, 2015

Vids from Shockwave 24! I apologize for my bad performance. I'll step it up for sure next time!

Vs. PBP_Zeus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkvj41nH9rA&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RWNY2qMpz-32h4XfbCcFtV&index=3

Vs. Phenom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JZEc1RyL0&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RWNY2qMpz-32h4XfbCcFtV&index=7

Vs. Emery - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqSNS4Lk894&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RWNY2qMpz-32h4XfbCcFtV&index=12

Yoshi Kirishima · Apr 11, 2015

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster said:
Vids from Shockwave 24! I apologize for my bad performance. I'll step it up for sure next time!

Vs. PBP_Zeus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkvj41nH9rA&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RWNY2qMpz-32h4XfbCcFtV&index=3

Vs. Phenom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21JZEc1RyL0&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RWNY2qMpz-32h4XfbCcFtV&index=7

Vs. Emery - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqSNS4Lk894&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RWNY2qMpz-32h4XfbCcFtV&index=12

Oh well, one "bad" performance out of ~30? Pretty good I'd say

Btw Aerolink, maybe random question... if you were to practice a bit of Diddy and play in the next Shockwave, do you think you would be able to beat Denti (or at least be very very close in a Bo5 Grand finals like a couple months ago when you went diddy against him)?

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · Apr 12, 2015

Yoshi Kirishima said:
Oh well, one "bad" performance out of ~30? Pretty good I'd say

Btw Aerolink, maybe random question... if you were to practice a bit of Diddy and play in the next Shockwave, do you think you would be able to beat Denti (or at least be very very close in a Bo5 Grand finals like a couple months ago when you went diddy against him)?

Probably, but I've stopped playing him, tbh. I've been focused on Palutena with customs, and I just pulled him out the last game because I wasn't feeling it. I don't want to lose the consistency I've been having, so I take this is as a flop for me. I'll come back strong for next time.

Yoshi Kirishima · Apr 12, 2015

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster said:
Probably, but I've stopped playing him, tbh. I've been focused on Palutena with customs, and I just pulled him out the last game because I wasn't feeling it. I don't want to lose the consistency I've been having, so I take this is as a flop for me. I'll come back strong for next time.

Ok, was just curious how much stronger/easier you felt Diddy was and how much that may have been influencing Denti's performance compared to yours playing what would be commonly agreed upon on as a mid or low tier. I love to compare power levels X)

Hype for the patch!

E.Lopez · Apr 13, 2015

Yoshi Kirishima said:
Also you could really push your stage control advantage. You're faster than kirby movement wise, so try to think of "kiting him". Play safe, and use the full length of the stage as your "safety". Think this: as long as you stay safe, if he's trying to approach you then you have multiple chances to punish/hit him while using the full length of the stage. If you are overly aggressive (that is, try to approach him but it doesn't work out) then you would "lose" this advantage/possibility of punishing him. This is huge I think. Many players don't understand how important this really is. If you can be patient, calm, and truly understand this concept, then this alone can be what allows in you defeating your opponent, who will be frustrated and impatient and confused as to what hes doing wrong (as he's used to just fighting you straight up and not playing a smarter game).

I've seen the term "kiting" around this community but did not find it in the Smash Dictionary. What exactly is this?

Yoshi Kirishima said:
Here's an example: 1:30

This ties back into why it's so important not to overdo smash attacks. You have 90% stage control and he's cornered, but because you decided to go for a fsmash you completely lost stage control and lost the potential you could have done with it, all for the tiny chance you would get a good 16% (only 4 % more than something safer, like a short hop retreating back air).

Yeah, at 1:25, I felt I had a good read on his rolling, and anticipating that roll to the right toward me, I felt the f-smash was pretty much guaranteed, but of course we see that's not the case. I underestimated how fast Kirby could spot dodge immediately after his roll. You're right, I could have used something less powerful but much safer. Maybe even a down tilt?

Also, yes, that Aerolink video you showed is definitely good for learning a lot of what you were talking about.

Yoshi Kirishima · Apr 13, 2015

roykoopa64 said:
I've seen the term "kiting" around this community but did not find it in the Smash Dictionary. What exactly is this?

Yeah, at 1:25, I felt I had a good read on his rolling, and anticipating that roll to the right toward me, I felt the f-smash was pretty much guaranteed, but of course we see that's not the case. I underestimated how fast Kirby could spot dodge immediately after his roll. You're right, I could have used something less powerful but much safer. Maybe even a down tilt?

Also, yes, that Aerolink video you showed is definitely good for learning a lot of what you were talking about.

Oops my bad, it's not really a FG term, but it's used in RTSs and RPGs and such. Basically the concept is that your enemy is coming towards you and you reduce your vulnerability while having chances to deal damage. So in this situation it would mean throwing out a fair for example but retreating right after it and throwing out moves that would hit him if he makes the wrong approach, but without really committing yourself to any risks or openings. This forces the opponent to either risk something to gain stage control, or to play very very slowly and patiently in walking closer while you're kiting / moving back in order to "push" you away from center stage and maybe to the other corner.

Making a move that you feel very confident will be a successful read is good, but just keep in mind to also consider whether the risk is fine with you. Personally I feel that until mid-high level it is better to just play it safe and solid, especially because the fsmash would not have killed him anyway. But it's understandable that you chose to try it but missed only because you came a bit short in the timing.

A dtilt could work, but I would prefer to just jab1. If your opponent's back is facing you, jab is always safe. He can't grab you without turning around, and if he spot dodges you can go into jab2. Another choice is to short hop, and if you see the roll you can DI backwards and fair him safely.

Cap'nChreest · Apr 17, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlJUuVkV_cA
Me vs AntiYami Losers finals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kh2Gtw3TH4
Me vs Kai Winners finals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diFJ0l2DcE8
Me vs Kai grand finals

Kai is second in NC

this was about a week ago before the Sonic nerf ;_;

if anyone wants to give me some tips that'd be great

JayWon · Apr 19, 2015

So I make 15 second entertaining clips/plays for Palutena (and pikachu) like these:
https://instagram.com/p/1qgiEiInWa/
https://instagram.com/p/06xsxhonST/
https://instagram.com/p/0QRHfroncx/
https://instagram.com/p/0qgt3bonZZ/
and many many more.

I think this is the most appropriate thread to post this but yeah check them out? Have fun just browsing through some! Hope you enjoy them and follow if you want

JayWon · Apr 21, 2015

Just messing around with 2322. Not particularly doing my best but
I just chose this one to upload cuz of some good mileage of Lightweight/Jump Glide/Super Speed.

Comments/Critics are more than welcome!

Rran · Apr 22, 2015

That just may've been my favorite match involving Palutena lol. You really put all of her moves to use!

JayWon · Apr 22, 2015

Rran said:
That just may've been my favorite match involving Palutena lol. You really put all of her moves to use!

^^;; thanks! But have you seen Aerolink using 1322? I guarantee all his matches will be more favorable to you than my mere casual play! :3

Oh he uploaded another one for me!

2322 I played a bit better on this one cuz Peach is so slow and easier to deal with

Oh and another one:

Yoshi Kirishima · Apr 23, 2015

AEROLINK!!!

My Diddy Kong is dead -- HE'S GONE!
But he's here, on my back!...
...And *here*, in my heart.

He lives on INSIDE OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT's
TENGEN TOPPA
THAT's

GURREEENNN LAGANNN!!!

My drill... is the drill that will PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

Gigaaa.... durrrRRRIIIRRRruuuu... BUUUREEEAAAKKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations to the first ever Palutena champion at a regional tournament!

E.Lopez · Apr 23, 2015

Yoshi Kirishima said:
Congratulations to the first ever Palutena champion at a regional tournament!

Congrats Aerolink! So... with or without customs?

Yoshi Kirishima · Apr 23, 2015

roykoopa64 said:
Congrats Aerolink! So... with or without customs?

No one's won a regional tourny with her before with or without customs ^^

Djent · Apr 23, 2015

Customs were on.

E.Lopez · Apr 23, 2015

Cool, I was curious was all.

Yoshi Kirishima said:
No one's won a regional tourny with her before with or without customs ^^

That's awesome that Aerolink's Palutena achieved this success. I know I don't post on the forums much, and I haven't really narrowed down my main yet, but Palutena's definitely one of my favorite characters. So I love seeing you guys develop her and reveal her true potential.

kamus_aran · Apr 23, 2015

I would love to see him win without custom moves :D

Rran · Apr 24, 2015

Yeah, just watched the latest Shockwave matches--Aerolink was mucho impressive!

kamus_aran · Apr 24, 2015

Can't find the videos, where did you all watch?

Rran · Apr 24, 2015

http://www.twitch.tv/tourneylocator/v/4273567

Just skip ahead to the last half hour or so for plenty of Aerolink goodness :D

JayWon · Apr 25, 2015

mmmmm. Aerolink is just inspirational. He gets better and better every time!

MysteriousSilver · Apr 26, 2015

On that note, I don't suppose anyone has videos of recent, successful high-level Defaultena play?

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · Apr 27, 2015

Yoshi Kirishima · Apr 27, 2015

Sweet sweet victory

Megakoopax · Apr 27, 2015

Paluentina is the best waifu

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · May 3, 2015

Matches from Shockwave 27!

Vs. Emery - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFkIGkQy-CI&index=4&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RZ7zQFc1wWXKcRcMZOfc0V

Vs. Gyo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKEpULIZ6d4&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RZ7zQFc1wWXKcRcMZOfc0V&index=7

Vs. iiGGY (Winners Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iDN60eh6H0&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RZ7zQFc1wWXKcRcMZOfc0V&index=13

Vs. Phenom (Losers Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRQF7-GLzms&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RZ7zQFc1wWXKcRcMZOfc0V&index=11

Vs. iiGGY (Grand Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4kAier18n0&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RZ7zQFc1wWXKcRcMZOfc0V&index=16

Rran · May 3, 2015

All hail the AeroLink!

JayWon · May 10, 2015

Obviously not as good as Aerolink, but I'm working on it!

Critics, advice welcome please!

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · May 12, 2015

I'm back with vids from Shockwave 28!

Vs. Marcus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKHIdkwpuPI&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu1C4pUH9MAI5jfAApUovC&index=2

Vs. SSGuy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5b8j2wKK-s&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu1C4pUH9MAI5jfAApUovC&index=7

Vs. Bwett (WinnersFinals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVuwM0mwHVk&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu1C4pUH9MAI5jfAApUovC&index=13

Vs. Denti - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcu5bEqUsF0&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu1C4pUH9MAI5jfAApUovC&index=15

Vs. Bwett (Grand Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgc6LZ5m05g&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5Qu1C4pUH9MAI5jfAApUovC&index=16

Yoshi Kirishima · May 12, 2015

utter domination

will have to catch up on games, but you were all over bwett in that last game on duck hunt. I mean, 131% before taking damage? Damn. And that was some of the sickest spacing, reading, baiting, and setups I've seen T_T <3

Also RIP Denti

Flow Rats · May 13, 2015

It's been a while since someone added a bunch of default Palutena tournament videos so heres a few of mine, if anyone has any advice for me it would be much appreciated as I only started playing smash 4 seriously recently (though I have been in the melee scene for about a year).

vs Pyren (Dark Pit/Shulk) - Winners Side - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9KMaryr4oM

vs Ghostbone (C. Falcon) - Winners Quarters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeNgrbeVTOo

vs Ivan (ZSS) - Winners Semis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99GJj-3Dx0

vs Nikes (Yoshi) - Winners Finals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLTqHxZTqNs

vs Oli (Mario) - Losers Finals - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7XzBFDFIs

I got completely bodied by Oli so I wouldn't bother watching that if your only watching for Palutena.

Rran · May 14, 2015

Ooh I like the fights w/ Bwett--was this the first time he made it to the finals??

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · May 14, 2015

Rran said:
Ooh I like the fights w/ Bwett--was this the first time he made it to the finals??

Nah, he's been there plenty of times back in the 3DS days when he played Little Mac, and even a couple of times on the Wii U with Falcon. I would say it's his first time in a while.

Rran · May 17, 2015

Damn, AeroLink is just ruining people at Shockwave lol. Good fights against Larry (never heard of him, but apparently he's a big deal??)

NovemberMan · May 18, 2015

Rran said:
Damn, AeroLink is just ruining people at Shockwave lol. Good fights against Larry (never heard of him, but apparently he's a big deal??)

I faced him once on For Glory when he was using Fox and Falco. I was a complete scrub though.

Just for using Falco, though, I was kind of rooting for him at DBA4.

Baskerville · May 18, 2015

Something I think you Palus would like, especially if you have trouble against Olimar.

Keep in mind this is all default.

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster · May 19, 2015

Vids of Shockwave 29!

Vs. F2P with Gibus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEBcAHYS388&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RnM8eZRcqNlH4IJeP7TBSl&index=7

Vs. Phenom - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mdzw96wg0g&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RnM8eZRcqNlH4IJeP7TBSl&index=10

Vs. Emery (Winners Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iymIc9TfnAA&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RnM8eZRcqNlH4IJeP7TBSl&index=13

Vs. Denti (Grand Finals) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iEIfBCdT9Q&list=PLFXOgPi6_N5RnM8eZRcqNlH4IJeP7TBSl&index=16

Kurri ★ · May 20, 2015

Well after watching that first match, I'm now convinced.

Shame your scene doesn't enjoy customs, but at least they're pushing 3 stock 8 minutes. As far as I understand the community is split when it comes to customs. Some scenes favor them, others hate them. Thanks to KIDGoggles, my college scene (Rochester) loves them, but I'm going back home to Florida and I don't know the consensus there. Hopefully they push customs.

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