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Official Hyrule Hangout - Sheik Social
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NICE OF YOU TO MAKE A SUGGESTION TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
You're all Sheik's babes and you know it. Stuck in an asylum of somersaults and acrobatics. Home of the strongest ninjas in the universe!
You're all Sheik's babes and you know it. Stuck in an asylum of somersaults and acrobatics. Home of the strongest ninjas in the universe!
WondrousMoose
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The Pin Cushion. I've suggested it before, so I'll just say it again unless someone shuts me up. People like cushions - you sit on them and chat. Sheik has a lot of pins in her outfit, she pulls pins out of grenades, and she throws needles (read: pins) at her opponents. And so many puns that I won't list here.
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WondrousMoose
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It makes so much sense! Geeez.
Okay, Princess In Disguise, Ninja's Hangout, Sheikah Hangout, Hyrule Hangout (nice alliteration there), Resting Fish.
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Absol
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Make it Zelda :^)
itsReaLitY
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hey im a kinda nooby roy main looking to gain some mu experience against shiek. I would appreciate any shiek mains who could help me out if interested pm me thanks.
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Would you like a literal wingman? The Falco boards started their doubles discussion and would like to explore the potential of a Sheik and Falco team: http://smashboards.com/threads/ill-be-your-wingman-anytime-falco-doubles-discussion.417699/.
Oh, and if you want to look up wingmen to spar or figure out their game plan, check here: http://smashboards.com/threads/anyone-want-to-exchange-nnids-or-friend-codes.386513/.
Oh, and if you want to look up wingmen to spar or figure out their game plan, check here: http://smashboards.com/threads/anyone-want-to-exchange-nnids-or-friend-codes.386513/.
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Tito Maas
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Hey guys, the Pit boards are discussing the Sheik matchup. Please come and contribute to our discussion; we'd like to have as much insight as possible!
http://smashboards.com/threads/batt...n-sheik-zero-suit-samus-pikachu.414936/page-2
http://smashboards.com/threads/batt...n-sheik-zero-suit-samus-pikachu.414936/page-2
But you don't go to tournaments? Why not?
iceman9746
Smash Cadet
Sheikah hangout for sure
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
God I just love the Middle East... so much. It was 154 degrees last month. I drink so much water every day it isn't even funny. I sweat so much there probably isn't a damn toxin left in my body. I have lost 20 lbs. just from sweating my ass off... literatly. I miss America. 
Anyways, here are a few more ideas that I am unable to test.
Believe it or not d-tilt has a reverse hit box that can combo (looks that way anyways) into BF at kill percents and Bair at lower percents. Kinda feels like u-tilt from melee.. but less cool.
Dair has more uses than an interupted spike or an interupted combo tool on the stage. You can land the spike on a grounded opponent and the second hit box will not connect. They are in so much hit stun that you can combo them after you recover from your landing lag. Dair spike> USmash might be a possible kill combo. If all else fails though you can always just sweet spot Bair or if they are at the right percents perform an interupted Uair into a multi jab (combo is usable only at high percents).
We need to make a chart showing which air attacks knock enemies over for a tech chase and at what percents. Generalize the cast into about 5 sections with loose percents and put more detail into top pick characters. Other wise people will get data clogged and ignore its possibilities.
Take it easy everyone.
Anyways, here are a few more ideas that I am unable to test.
Believe it or not d-tilt has a reverse hit box that can combo (looks that way anyways) into BF at kill percents and Bair at lower percents. Kinda feels like u-tilt from melee.. but less cool.
Dair has more uses than an interupted spike or an interupted combo tool on the stage. You can land the spike on a grounded opponent and the second hit box will not connect. They are in so much hit stun that you can combo them after you recover from your landing lag. Dair spike> USmash might be a possible kill combo. If all else fails though you can always just sweet spot Bair or if they are at the right percents perform an interupted Uair into a multi jab (combo is usable only at high percents).
We need to make a chart showing which air attacks knock enemies over for a tech chase and at what percents. Generalize the cast into about 5 sections with loose percents and put more detail into top pick characters. Other wise people will get data clogged and ignore its possibilities.
Take it easy everyone.
_Tree
The no-more hero
Well, I kind of do. I usually head to locals. I haven't been to Ranbats or too many majors/nationals since something always seems to come up (or I get lazy). I plan to change this though.
A few people in my local scene know about you though.
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Simikins
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Hey all, just posted a new thread going over some more needle combos I've found.
http://smashboards.com/threads/sheik-needle-combos-extended.418039/
http://smashboards.com/threads/sheik-needle-combos-extended.418039/
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...SIC7qHJJi-msSzsQrQ&sig2=FIsTfuK6iXEY8nwm3p2sw were discussing sheik and the zelda crew and would love your input
Simikins
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I'm trying to get some GIFs for a thread I'm making. Anyone know how to contact Wasserwipf?
_Tree
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@Wasserwipf is currently busy and has access to a computer very infrequently. I'd recommend leaving a message on his Smashboards account and just waiting for a reply. The only other thing you could do is try and snipe him when he rarely appears in the Skype group. Those are the only main methods unfortunately...
Simikins
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Void's Sheik ditto guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TvJS0fDjROT0szqnelBZ0TxtBrKohrmL-ukfztYUcXQ/edit
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
So kind of a re-post. Has anyone messed around with shell shifting into a d-tilt? It can be a safe approach on characters like ZSS.
Also, we need to look into frame advantages of Uair's first 3 hit boxes.
So kind of a re-post. Has anyone messed around with shell shifting into a d-tilt? It can be a safe approach on characters like ZSS.
Also, we need to look into frame advantages of Uair's first 3 hit boxes.
Also, we need to look into frame advantages of Uair's first 3 hit boxes.
So kind of a re-post. Has anyone messed around with shell shifting into a d-tilt? It can be a safe approach on characters like ZSS.
Also, we need to look into frame advantages of Uair's first 3 hit boxes.
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WondrousMoose
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That was literally a re-post.
ShinRamen
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*a re-post of a kind of a re-post
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Yeah sorry about the double post. Dial up is a pain in the ass. :/
Anyways, fun tid bit that I am sure someone has already pointed out. You can throw out a nade and ledge trump someone into the explosion. This nets a kill at like 110%. The only problem is I could not confirm if it is a true combo, but to my knowledge it is not. Could someone please test this?
Even if it is not a true combo it could easily catch someone off guard every now and then.
Anyways, fun tid bit that I am sure someone has already pointed out. You can throw out a nade and ledge trump someone into the explosion. This nets a kill at like 110%. The only problem is I could not confirm if it is a true combo, but to my knowledge it is not. Could someone please test this?
Even if it is not a true combo it could easily catch someone off guard every now and then.
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So
_Tree
, how's that name change coming along?
Also, according to Dantarion, Sheik did receive changes in 1.1.1. Here are the links to changes to her and to her needles. It looks like there was a change to the "GrabHitbox" of her final smash, as well as a change to Penetrating Needles.
_Tree
, how's that name change coming along?Also, according to Dantarion, Sheik did receive changes in 1.1.1. Here are the links to changes to her and to her needles. It looks like there was a change to the "GrabHitbox" of her final smash, as well as a change to Penetrating Needles.
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Edit: didn't realize the double post >.<
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ShinRamen
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Couple thoughts....
Our primary method of killing came from a setup from grab, and since there is much less incentive to shield, perhaps it will be harder to get this grab?
The increased shield-stun makes a lot of moves with greater kill power safer, and we don't have any good smash attacks to throw out.
I'm still holding my breath, I've really no idea how this will affect sheik's neutral and the whole meta.
Our primary method of killing came from a setup from grab, and since there is much less incentive to shield, perhaps it will be harder to get this grab?
The increased shield-stun makes a lot of moves with greater kill power safer, and we don't have any good smash attacks to throw out.
I'm still holding my breath, I've really no idea how this will affect sheik's neutral and the whole meta.
ArikadoSD
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"Primary method of killing" sounds subjective tbh. I'd say my primary method of killing is a fair near the ledge at 150% or nair > bouncing fish, and not dthrow > kill move.
This might make weak nair a bit more safe on shield meaning its viability as a kill setup might increase? idk
This might make weak nair a bit more safe on shield meaning its viability as a kill setup might increase? idk
ShinRamen
Smash Cadet
Fair enough, primary kill setup from grab then. Though it is the most utilised method I've seen from watching a lot of Sheik. Either way I think it'll be wise to avoid jumping to conclusions on how this change affects anything anything, and just see how it goes. What can be said is that somehow a way to complain about sheik will be found haha.
Big House 5 could be the final "Smash 4" -as-we-know-it tourney, or maybe, maybe, maaaybe this change is an error in coding and will be returned to how it's been from the start. Very unlikely but considering they managed to bug out the way diddy's shield works, who knows... exciting!
Big House 5 could be the final "Smash 4" -as-we-know-it tourney, or maybe, maybe, maaaybe this change is an error in coding and will be returned to how it's been from the start. Very unlikely but considering they managed to bug out the way diddy's shield works, who knows... exciting!
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Fun fact,
SH> (fully charged) NLC> second jump> Dair spike is a true combo.
NeedlLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! IMA KILL MYSELF!
Granted, the percents that it works at are stupid high (like 130%-140%) and the skill required + enemy position is just silly. Not a combo to be used in a tourney, but still ****ing cool looking.
Something more useful.....
I was curious what else airial needles would combo into... here are my notes from several weeks ago:
"The distance that the foe is at after a FH needle storm is to great for normal follow ups. The solution is not getting to the foe quicker, its keeping them closer. Problem... landing lag. Solution, don't hit the ground. Application, the ledge. Need for application. Safer way of trumping an opponent trying to return than running in and shielding.
When the foe wakes, or is just close to the ledge, run in an SH> needle storm. Make sure you fall off of the ledge so you avoid landing lag. Perform a rising Uair to combo. Furthermore, DI back onto the stage and cancel the lest hit of Uair. This sets up for a grab."
So the combo is SH needle storm> interupted Uair> grab> w/e
Now if only GR> BF was a true combo.... *sigh*
SH> (fully charged) NLC> second jump> Dair spike is a true combo.
NeedlLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! IMA KILL MYSELF!
Granted, the percents that it works at are stupid high (like 130%-140%) and the skill required + enemy position is just silly. Not a combo to be used in a tourney, but still ****ing cool looking.
Something more useful.....
I was curious what else airial needles would combo into... here are my notes from several weeks ago:
"The distance that the foe is at after a FH needle storm is to great for normal follow ups. The solution is not getting to the foe quicker, its keeping them closer. Problem... landing lag. Solution, don't hit the ground. Application, the ledge. Need for application. Safer way of trumping an opponent trying to return than running in and shielding.
When the foe wakes, or is just close to the ledge, run in an SH> needle storm. Make sure you fall off of the ledge so you avoid landing lag. Perform a rising Uair to combo. Furthermore, DI back onto the stage and cancel the lest hit of Uair. This sets up for a grab."
So the combo is SH needle storm> interupted Uair> grab> w/e
Now if only GR> BF was a true combo.... *sigh*