Hope vs. G&W?

[Muh]

I've heard many people say that G&W's Dthrow to Dsmash is inescapable for Lucas....BUT

Using the concept of extra-inch DI, I've been able to consistantly escape my friend's Dthrow to Dsmash combo. I simply start holding the C-stick(which is set to smashes. Not sure if that matters) in the direction I intend to tech roll before the down-throw is complete. As long as the tech roll is successful, I've safely avoided the Dsmash EVERY time.

As a disclaimer, my friend is not the best G&W, and I think it would be best if this was thoroughly tested before I start claiming this works definitively.

Get to testing fellow Lucas players! (or if this has already been confirmed/denied, let me know)

 

[Levitas]

you can both tech and roll out of it in time. that's not why G&W wrecks lucas.

 

[dawgbowl]

His Air game is destruction,
He shuts down our PK everything including gimping PKT2,
His smashes are fast and kill at dumb percentages,
His tilts are better than ours.

its just bad news

 

[FireKirby7]

I think PK Fire will hit the turtle and explode, thus hitting G&W.
Say, is there anything Gay man watch can do after you shield his bair?

 

[ToxiCrow]

he can probably turn and grab or hit ur with a tilt.
and teching the dthrow is deffinetly not inescapable for lucas. it's been known among lucas players.
lol it was a g+w that taught me how to tech

 

[Cheeri-Oats]

I'm getting smarter in the match-up. That is all.

 

[Exia 00]

It is you can escape it but the best advice is don't get grabbed. I hate hearing it myself but it is true Lol.

 

[DemonicTrilogy]

Don't use Nair as a approach... Game and Watch's Turtle nullifies almost all horizontal approaches on him. You'll have better luck with full hopped approaching Dair.

 

[ToxiCrow]

It is you can escape it but the best advice is don't get grabbed. I hate hearing it myself but it is true Lol.

the truth hurts doesnt it?

 

[cutter]

Just tech the throw. It's not that hard.

 

[Galeon]

It is you can escape it but the best advice is don't get grabbed. I hate hearing it myself but it is true Lol.

I hear this sometimes but for GW, I'd much rather tech his 5% down throw than risk getting hit by just about any of his moves. And I'd rather be in grab range than bair range but that's just me.

 

[ZMan]

Your sig makes me laugh, Galeon.

I fought a GAW in the oturny on Sat and my advice is to space. Space is what helped me win the round.

 

[ToxiCrow]

yes zman, space is good against gdub.
also, once u get the timing down, teching the down throw is kinda easy

 

[Nefarious B]

What does teching the throw mean? Im guessing you role out as he's going to Dsmash so you're invulnerable as he hits? Or is it something else entirely.

 

[Neb]

I think PK Fire will hit the turtle and explode, thus hitting G&W.
Say, is there anything Gay man watch can do after you shield his bair?

Bair just eats pkf, it'd has more priority.

 

[cutter]

What does teching the throw mean? Im guessing you role out as he's going to Dsmash so you're invulnerable as he hits? Or is it something else entirely.

You press L/R just before you get slammed into the ground which lets you immediately roll and always escape the Dsmash. If you played Melee, teching was like second nature.

If you could tech Melee Fox's Dthrow, you can tech GW's Dthrow.

 

[FireKirby7]

All G&W always use dthrow right? Every single time?
But what they fake you with a fthrow? :O

 

[Levitas]

well, tech the fthrow then.lol

 

[Neb]

well, tech the fthrow then.lol

What? Tech the fthrow?

 

[FireKirby7]

What? Tech the fthrow?

You don't know about it cuz you G&W mains never use his awesome fthrow.

 

[Levitas]

What? Tech the fthrow?

What?! you guys didn't know about that? really? maybe you should read the posts you quote a little more carefully

 

[Neb]

*Confused.

I use fthrow, bthrow, uthrow, and dthrow.
And a tech scenario has never occurred for me.
You guys must be kidding.

 

[FireKirby7]

I, myself, am quite surprised and dissapointed. -_-

 

[Levitas]

The trick is to highlight text as you read it.

And I have teched a G&W fthrow off the windmill, though yeah, it's not anything other than REALLY situational.

 

[prOAPC]

mindgames son!

 

[Chuee]

mindgames son!

Agreed... Most likely pro G&W's wont use a fthrow.........ever.

 

[FireKirby7]

The trick is to highlight text as you read it.

And I have teched a G&W fthrow off the windmill, though yeah, it's not anything other than REALLY situational.

lol even I didn't catch that. I was just playing along.

 

[Neon Ness]

There's too much black text on this page.

 

[MK26]

Silly Neb, FireKirby, and Neon Ness, trix r 4 kidz.
Cutter's sig is techable between hits 28 and 29, and needs a banhammer at the end.

 

[FireKirby7]

No, these are our special mindgames.

I second the motion!