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Oh alright.
DO IT NOW!!!!!
Awesome! No complaints. While I think Issac is more likely it is certainly possible we will get Shulk instead. I applaud Diskun as well, I think he certainly deserves a spot with memorability and importance of the Famicom Disk System and the moves he can be given. I also wouldn't say that 4 DK reps or 4 Third Parties are likely THIS time around, but if we had room for a 50 character roster I'd say it's pretty plausible, especially since you've already given proper representation to the other franchises that need it first.
NOW DO MINE!!
Wow, thanks!
Very well done. My only concern is that 5 Zelda characters and 4 Third Parties is a little much. I'm aware Toon Zelda's coding was found in the game and that she's a requested character, but in reality she's incredibly excessive and unnecessary. I think this is most likely why she was never finished or even had much coding to begin with. We have Toon Link to represent the toon games and the Child Link is essential unlike the child Zelda which is really take it or leave it. Now the idea of Tetra being part of it makes it serve a purpose, but it seems to draw too far away from the original Zelda which is not what Sakurai wanted with Toon Link.
Something that should happen, but not likely.
I had to make it BJ instead of Toad to make people happy. Also, I kinda didn't know who to choose to fill in that Zelda spot. But Toon Zelda seemed popular enough and a lot of people think Zelda with a fifth rep.
Toon Zelda is really the only plausible one that comes to mind. And while Zelda is popular enough, it had less than Mario & Pokemon in Smash 64 AND we already have Sheik anyway.
Cut Wolf and bring back Lucario. Lucario is much more necessary and currently popular than Wolf actually is. But, we still have the problem of there only being one cut which is just unrealistic. Actually, I wouldn't accuse you if you had Palutena over King K. Rool. Donkey Kong is repped quite nicely as is Fire Emblem. Although it seems unrealistic for neither to get a new character.
Cuts are almost impossible to conceive thanks to Brawl's perfect roster.
Seems plausible. 2 retros seems like a good way to go and you haven't seem to have left anyone essential out (except maybe Little Mac, but that's only because of the stage). I'll have to disagree with Saki. I think Shulk, Little Mac, & Starfy are far more deserving than he is and it's a rather obscure Nintendo franchise. So replace him with one of those 3.I think we'll get around 45-50 characters this go around, so I've gone with the latter. I don't think four third-parties aren't unlikely either, with Sonic and (most likely) Snake returning, plus Mega-Man, and the possibility of Pac-Man getting in (IF Namco gets a character), four is a very likely number. I also believe DK getting both Dixie and K. Rool is perfectly fine and plausible, as Kirby got two newcomers in Brawl. That being said, here's a roster I cooked up:
Out of all of these, the only ones I really have any attachment to/support are K.Rool (and Dixie to an extent), Ridley, and Krystal. Most of the others I put as I've seen heavy support from them and also see them as likely myself. I found Brawl's roster to be all around very good, so I haven't removed any of them.
I'll start with the positives and go on to the negativesHere you go, SaturnGamer64, but don't go too hard on me.
I'll point anything out for inclusion if you want. But to point it out already, Geno's on due to pre-Brawl popularity.
I'll have to disagree with you on a few of these points.
The artwork you used is actually Matthew who is Issac's son from the last Golden Sun game. They look very similar. As for Saki & Krystal I don't think having a cool move set is really enough. I also disagree on your logic of Sakurai adding a new Star Fox character every game, unlike Krystal both of those character were deserving and necessary and just because Sakurai adds a character to a franchise twice in a row doesn't mean he'll do it again. Franchises meet their limits you know, we can't keep adding a new Mario character every single installment until it floods the roster, we didn't even get a new one in Brawl, we lost one and that was the mascot franchise.
Seems pretty similar to JamesDnaux. I applaud the idea of 2 new retro characters and certainly think Dixie might make it in over King K. Rool. While I see Golden Sun to be more deserving, Shulk can very well happen too. I don't really know about 5 Zelda characters though. Especially not Toon Zelda.What the hell, I might as well post mine here.
I'm iffy on one part of it. I may get rid of Lip (*sob*) move Mii to her spot, and add in Pac-Man as a Third Party. Maybe. So I would like a little thought on that idea, because I find it a bit more likely.
okay here it is feel free to point out anything, and comment to your heart desires
I'm ready
um . . . . . . .Good job. You kept and added all the really essential characters and maintained it at 45 characters: the most realistic amount. That's really hard to do. Although we might probably get Mii and Issac over Shulk, but it's certainly likely we end up with the roster like this. Good Job with staying at 45
It's not just the movesets, though a good moveset is one of the most important parts of a character, they are also popular characters, and in the case of Saki, was already made into an assist trophy that was more like a playable character than the other ATs. It would be easier for Sakurai to upgrade him to playable.
You're right, it's not.
Geno would probably count as his own series, especailly considering that he is technically a third party character. Sora Ltd. has already (unnecessarily) segregated Wario and Yoshi to their more specific franchises. So I don't see why he wouldn't do the same for Geno. In that sense, that gives the roster a more linear or aesthetically pleasing quality.
I have nothing against Tetra. I actually wouldn't mind JUST her, I would actually like it. I was attacking Toon Zelda more than Tetra, Tetra might even be more warranted than Tingle (not really), but she would be fun.I've stated before (to Diddy Kong) that Impa was important enough to the Zelda series to warrant a spot. Do I believe that she should be in SSB4? No. Although she's important, we already have Zelda/Sheik to represent the Sheikah and the Hylian magic. So, Impa feels a bit redundant. Toon Zelda and Tetra I won't comment on, as I've included them in my previous rosters. I feel that if we were to get one, I'd prefer Tetra by herself, using knives, launching herself with barrels, the Skull Hammer, all that good stuff. Toon Zelda's one true "unique ability" from the normal Zelda we have is her Phantom form. This would be completely damaging to me if Toon Zelda used Spirit Tracks moves and could transform into Tetra. My reasoning? They're different Zeldas. It's the same logic as Spirit Train Toon Link: They're not the same character, so they can coexist (or cease to exist, in Tetra/Phantom Zelda's case). Zelda's moveset was already based off abilities Link used in OoT, but they fit her better than Link, due to the princess = magic thing going on. I feel that if they were to just clone Toon Zelda and make Tetra unique ENOUGH, it'd be stupid. If they're going to attach a new, fresh character to a cloned character, why not just have the unique character by herself?
Tingle's well-known in the East AND the West, albeit in different ways. Besides using his balloons and map-making abilities, I think using Rupees, the Tingle Tuner, and anything from his Japan-exclusive games will work too. Besides, he'd be great to troll with if his taunts had him do his exotic dances.
