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I like the red palette swap, it looks very sleek.
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I don't think it should have had Pokemon Speak. Besides that, the voice seems alright.Greninja will be amazing, What do you guys think of the voice? I kinda like it.
Posted this in the Smash 4 Social.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLXCbz-MLM&t=2m36s
(Dair sweetspots here, most likely due to hitlag or the bounce back after the hit [though you shouldn't have been able to instantly grab the ledge], but since when have you seen an aerial allow this?)
Dammit, Greninja...stop being so good!
Well, it's certainly unique... Different than I expected, but honestly, after hearing it for a while, I think it sounds pretty cool. It's more of an acquired taste.Greninja will be amazing, What do you guys think of the voice? I kinda like it.
I love it.Greninja will be amazing, What do you guys think of the voice? I kinda like it.
Yeah, I saw this, too. Is that really true?
Huh.
It's true. I think this has been posted in a thread in the "Nintendo at E3 2014" section that got closed.Yeah, I saw this, too. Is that really true?
Ha, if so, then that's one heck of a lucky decision on their part.
Can I get a voice sample?Greninja will be amazing, What do you guys think of the voice? I kinda like it.
You can hear him in this video:Can I get a voice sample?
At the demo, I think Greninja kept on saying "NOOO!" It got really annoying rather quickly.
Okay, I love his voice even more now. It's grown on me after hearing him alone.You can hear him in this video:
Lol so hilarious. The ending is pure gold.This is how I think Sakurai felt about the Smash Direct
He still has the rapid jab that was seen in the trailer. It works like Link's or Pit's; if you are pressing the A button slower, he does the finisher; if you press the A button faster, he does the rapid jab (that leads to a finisher).I was checking out moveset videos for he newcomers, and it seemed that Greninja didn't have the same Jab Attack as in his reveal trailer. I'm a little concerned, because I really liked that Jab.
So is the Jab different in the demo when compared to the Jab in the Greninja trailer?
Sakurai said it was an early build so maybe Greninja's early Jab is in the demo?
I don't know, I may have found out if I was able to go to Smash Fest.
haha now that you mention it i didnt notice it eitherI just noticed that Greninja's up(?) taunt is very similar to the animation it does when using Special Attacks in Pokemon X/Y. How did I not notice this before?
Looks the same to me. Maybe you saw people not doing his rapid jab, he has a regular ender to his three jab series instead of the rapid jabs into finisher that you can do.I was checking out moveset videos for he newcomers, and it seemed that Greninja didn't have the same Jab Attack as in his reveal trailer. I'm a little concerned, because I really liked that Jab.
That's pretty interesting. I don't know why I didn't expect a froggish-pokemon type voice considering that's what he is. I imagined it deeper and darker because I'm an idiotYou can hear him in this video:
Wow. Awesome find!Alright, so here's another Greninja match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHUv5usE5c
However, at 1:24, something interesting happens. Kirby Fthrows Greninja at 25%, and immediately, Greninja Shadow Sneaks out of it. Like, immediately. I'm not even sure that I can see him in a damage animation. I didn't see Hbox ever use Kirby's Fthrow in the Invitational, so maybe Kirby's Fthrow's just terrible? I do remember a yellow Fthrow from Oli in Brawl had literally no hitstun, so it might be a similar thing. Regardless, it'd be interesting if Shadow Sneak may negate hitstun with the drawback that it's really laggy at the end. Although, if I had to guess, it's just Kirby's Fthrow being bad or is something the team is gonna patch.
It does not, but I felt that it had too much cool down in the air to really be useful as a recovery move (think like Luigi's Melee Up-B but horizontal). Unlike Up-B, Shadow Sneak does not keep its momentum after finishing, and given that he drops pretty quickly, I'd say it's more detrimental to use it than beneficial except in specific circumstances (within range to land on the stage and trying to get around the opponent, etc.,). I'm pretty sure it doesn't even auto-grab the ledge.Someone probably asked this earlier, but will using Greninja's Side-B in air cause him to go into free-fall after use?
If he doesn't, then Greninja would have some amazing recovery.
Greatest strengths: Range, speed, recovery, mobility
Greatest weaknesses: KO power
Greninja seems like a really solid character. He’s quick and has great recovery, but doesn’t really knock foes out at low percents. This is fine, because he’d probably be unbalanced otherwise—all of his moves have impressive range as well, due to his long limbs. He’s very slick and frog-ninja-esque, meaning they really nailed his design. He’s got combos, speed, and can still score KOs–usually off the top of the screen. Lots of his moves feature him spawning water swords that aren’t attached to his body–he feels like a mixture of Marth and Sheik, to some degree.
Side note, after learning his name origin, I want to play him a lot more. “Gren” comes from “grenouille,” which is French for “frog” (the Kalos region where Pokémon X and Y take place is based heavily on France), and he’s obviously a ninja. In Japanese, his name is Gekkouga, which is like “gecko” plus “koga,” from the Koga-ryu school of ninjutsu (think Koga from Fuschia Gym/the Elite Four). In French, he’s named Amphinobi, like “amphibian/amphibie” + “shinobi.” Super clever, GameFreak. I see you guys. Props to Bulbapedia for listing and explaining the name origins.
Jab – slap, slap, splash (3 hits) – 2, 2, 4
Greninja slaps the opponent and finishes the jab combo with a quick burst of water that’s disjointed from his body/hurtbox. Comes out and finishes pretty quickly.
Forward tilt – kick – 7
Standard forward kick, you can aim it up or down.
Down tilt – foot – 7
Somewhat similar to Mario and Luigi’s down tilt, Greninja pokes his foot out a bit and pops the opponent up in front of him.
Up tilt – tongue – 5
Greninja swings his tongue over his head in an arc. Covers a lot of his body, but doesn’t have as much vertical range as it looks. May not be disjointed. Starts combos, covers landings.
Dash attack – sweep – 7
Greninja slides into the ground and sweeps his foot. Seems kind of slow, reduces his forward momentum when the move comes out. One of his least useful moves, in my opinion.
Forward smash – sword chop – 14-20
Starts a bit slow, but has a good disjoint. Not particularly powerful, but will send opponents off the stage and set up for edgeguards.
Down smash – hand sweep – 11-16
Greninja sweeps his hands around both sides of him. Fairly weak, doesn’t seem safe to go for most of the time.
Up smash – sword cross – 13-19
Two swords come out of Greninja’s hands while he raises his arms up. The swords aren’t part of his body, and the range is pretty solid. This move most likely has the most knockback of his entire moveset, and it can also be used directly out of a dash, so it’s probably going to be one of his most reliable KO moves.
Neutral air – focus – 11
Greninja puts his hands together in a ninja focusing pose and a small burst of water comes out of his torso. It seems kind of hard to land, but also has fairly strong knockback.
Forward air – sword chop – 14
Similar to his forward smash, but in the air. Good range, but I believe it has landing lag from a short hop no matter what. Not particularly high knockback but definitely a useful move.
Back air – triple kick – 3, 3, 4
One of Greninja’s best moves—he kicks behind him three times very quickly with the third hit sending you away. It doesn’t KO, but since multihit moves have been so heavily buffed and Greninja’s limbs are long, it’s really good.
Down air – dive kick – 8
Greninja dives down into the ground at a high speed and plants his foot. Very slow recovery if you miss it, but on hit, it spikes aerial opponents and pops grounded opponents up for a followup.
Up air – drill – 10 (multiple hits, final hit is the strongest and sends you away, but it was too difficult to calculate each individual hit’s damage)
Similar to Samus and Sheik’s up airs, except Greninja goes completely vertical and upside down. The first few hits are weak, then the final one sends you away. One of his best moves—fast and powerful.
Neutral B – Water Shuriken – 4-13
Greninja throws a ninja star, with its size depending on charge. Charge is not cancelable or storable–it releases automatically when you release the B button. The charged projectile has multiple hits and carries the opponent as they take damage, allowing Greninja to chase the thrown Shuriken and follow up from it.
Side B – Shadow Sneak – 10
While you hold the B button, a shadow is cast over the ground in front of you, and it goes further the longer you hold B. Greninja can move and jump while the shadow moves. Upon release/full distance, you teleport completely horizontally to the spot where the shadow is cast–this means Greninja can choose how high he is in the air (if at all) when doing this move. Does not cause freefall, so you can act afterward!
Up B – Waterfall – 2, 2
Very similar to Pikachu’s Quick Attack–Greninja gets two angled bursts of movement with a trail of water. Pretty fast, covers a good amount of distance, but doesn’t hit hard.
Down B – Substitute — ?
This move is a counter. Greninja disappears and spawns a Poké Doll Substitute just like in the games, and when it gets hit, he’ll pop out and hit you. I didn’t get a lot of time to mess with this move, but it seemed a bit unreliable–kind of like how you can escape Lucario’s Double Team in Brawl if you activate it with a move that ends quickly enough.
I bet it just had a slot titled "Pokemon from X/Y" until they had some of the hype from the game/Gamefreaks input. Sakurai posted he basically made Greninjas moveset in one night, so it could have been made almost at any point.
Huh.
Ignore Raetah, he's lying and harassing the Shulk thread. Report this post.According to Solfiner, Pokemon is less Nintendo than Xenoblade.
Im tired to prove that he is wrong. You can find him in Shulk thread support. it would be helpful.
I do have threads of Solfiner: 1st missing up with Fire Emblem and 2nd Missing up with Pokemon. The true is there to read.Ignore Raetah, he's lying and harassing the Shulk thread. Report this post.
He never once said anything against them though. Pretty sure he's a fan of both. You're just dragging a bunch of people into a completely unnecessary conflict. Just stop it. You're acting like a child.I do have threads of Solfiner: 1st missing up with Fire Emblem and 2nd Missing up with Pokemon. The true is there to read.