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Madred's is a DPS item. If you say its a "complete single dps item" and bring up an example of it being used like you have, then it's an addition that scales with health, but a major portion of the damage you'll be dealing (up until pretty high healths) is being negated by health [still]. Different views of it I guess. I just kinda cringe every time I see it being used on any ranged carry.
look, the way you view it is fine and I don't have a problem with that, but if you consider the non-proc damage, you have to consider that that damage still scales with standard AD ****. I don't have a problem with you view that HP still is useful vs. a bloodrazor user, but I do have an issue with you saying that AND at the same time saying that having a bloodrazor only scales with Attack Speed and Magic Pen.
But talking about complete DPS items.... Trinity Force is good, Cleaver is pretty nice (attack damage, armor reduction and attack speed), and funnily enough the likes of sword of the divine (attack speed, magic damage and 30 armor pen active). Oh of course you can't go wrong with Youmuu's (there's a reason its pretty popular
) AD, Crit, Attack Speed, Movement Speed and cooldown reduction!
Triforce and Ghostblade are the only other ones that really work as singular damage items, but both scale best when coupled with other quasi damage items like wriggle's and atma's. It's a fine distinction, but it's there.
And I most definitely see Youmuu's on those nice bruisers who buy 4 tank items and boots more often than madred's blood razer.
it's usually wriggle's -> ghostblade with a 5th slot atma's. Again, you're supplementing triforce or ghostblade to get the most out of them.
let's say I got fed on Malphite or Shen or someone like that (real tanky, decent innate burst, decent base fighting stats, but typically build straight tank) and I need to provide sustained damage to my team in order for us to win teamfights. I have 1 slot for that item. It's always gonna be Bloodrazor. Youmuu's is for the less tanky, more bursty guys who build some damage anyway.
I mean, the only guys who have a bloodrazor in their core are Teemo and WW (not even though really, it's still somewhat situational on both of them), so I'm not arguing that the item is phenomenal or ubiquitous or anything outrageous like that. I'm mostly just arguing with you for how you're portraying the item. I agree that it's mostly bad on your standard ranged carry (it has a place on TF builds, Teemo builds, Kog builds, etc but they need to be specialized for the AS build for it to make sense).
(Still got it done anyways)
