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Nothing as free as that, but it's also worth noting that both of those options still don't guarantee a grab either.But you can't get anything free then? Like luigi can just use fireball, ness has pk fire, etc
He has a ton of options. His dthrow combos into all of his aerials lol. He has great rewards for throws just not as easy of a grab. Everyone with a tether grab has a slow grab.I mean. That's part of the reason why Lucas isn't as disgusting as Luigi, or Sheik. All three of them have great rewards off of grabs, but only two are considered top tier. Luigi's or Sheik's entire neutral gives them a plethora of tools to secure grabs, such as jabs, tilts, good aerials, and special moves that safely bait out shield. Lucas doesn't really have those things, which is why he doesn't get combos and kill setups almost for free like they do. So you need to rely on baits, reads, and conditioning to reap the rewards that Lucas's grab will give you.
You misunderstood his post. He said that all three of them have great reward off getting grab, but lucas has can't get the initial grab as easily as the latter.He has a ton of options. His dthrow combos into all of his aerials lol. He has great rewards for throws just not as easy of a grab. Everyone with a tether grab has a slow grab.
Honestly, not much that I know of. After landing a short-hopped nair I can sometimes get a grab at early to mid percents depending on DI, weight, fall speed, etc.What tools does lucas have to get the grab? Obviously his specials don't but maybe falling aerials?
Yes it works at high percents. You can do one dtilt or two dtilts and confirm to grab You can also do :I heard from some that you can potentially Dtilt > grab. I can't test right now, but can someone confirm this?
That should definitely prove useful after busting out his early combo game and reaching for a safe kill confirm with grab > Uair, but what would make Lucas deadly are safe grab options for the early game.Yes it works at high percents. You can do one dtilt or two dtilts and confirm to grab You can also do :
-Zair> Grab
-FF Nair> Grab
-FF Nair > Dtilt> grab (high percents only)
-FF Fair> Grab (certain percents)
-FH Dair> FF> Grab
-Probably more stuff just go to the lab and find out
Aside from Z-air>Grab none of these are really safe. You need to fastfall into the aerial which means it can easily be shield grabbed and punished. The time I would see these being viable is if you condition them to not shield your falling aerials after exposing them to a tomahawk grab. From what I can see, Lucas has very little safe grab confirms in neutral. In order to get the grab you need to get the read.Yes it works at high percents. You can do one dtilt or two dtilts and confirm to grab You can also do :
-Zair> Grab
-FF Nair> Grab
-FF Nair > Dtilt> grab (high percents only)
-FF Fair> Grab (certain percents)
-FH Dair> FF> Grab
-Probably more stuff just go to the lab and find out
All of these options are safe 70% of the cast's shield so i dont know what you are talking about.Aside from Z-air>Grab none of these are really safe. You need to fastfall into the aerial which means it can easily be shield grabbed and punished. The time I would see these being viable is if you condition them to not shield your falling aerials after exposing them to a tomahawk grab. From what I can see, Lucas has very little safe grab confirms in neutral. In order to get the grab you need to get the read.
No not at all. All of these can get shield grabbed. Except for FF F-air if you retreat, surrendering your grab.All of these options are safe 70% of the cast's shield so i dont know what you are talking about.