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Ganon is TRASH(vs samus)=CLOSED! DO NOT POST PLEASE!

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hyperstation

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Please don't get a hard on!
Z1GMA was only stating his opinion on what would happen is he could get a lvl 1 ganon cpu off the stage and use z-air, he obviously doesn't mean samus' z-air will KO every ganon player who doesn't know how to use L or R.
I suppose you didn't see all of that sarcasm dripping off my words, then. Of course Zair is a viable tactic versus anyone with mediocre recovery, but what Zigma said was very silly, and I made a silly post to emphasize that. Also...you're giving me a hard on.
 

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Xyro vs all ganon mains on wifi when he gets to play again...

record and upload matches please, they should be interesting
 

Z1GMA

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Lv1 CPU? lol..

If the zair hits, Gdorf is screwed, (most of the times)
However It was more of a joke to represent Gdorfs poor Recovery..
Human reaction time is about 1 second.. zair comes out at 0,3 - 0,4 seconds..
So You must (guess) when to air dodge!

Samus Vs Gdorf (on stage) is a totally different story, I know.

Most characters can still recover after beeing hit with zair.. but it's hard for Gdrof!

Sorry for making you mad xD
 

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Human reaction time is about 1 second.. zair comes out at 0,3 - 0,4 seconds..
I'm pretty sure the human reaction time is closer to 1/6 of a second. I heard a statement saying that Marth's F-smash comes out 2 frames faster than human reaction time will permit or something like that, and Marth's F-smash comes out frame 10.
 

Z1GMA

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I'm pretty sure the human reaction time is closer to 1/6 of a second. I heard a statement saying that Marth's F-smash comes out 2 frames faster than human reaction time will permit or something like that, and Marth's F-smash comes out frame 10.
When I took drivers licence I red that human reaction time is (little less) than 1 sec..
It differs from human to human also..
(I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong)

I red (a little less) so it might be 1/6 ..
 

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The troll has Deity lawling.

He'd fight as well but he has no clue how he'd perform, seeing as he hasn't played a good Samus yet, much less a great one.

That aside, Deity's connection is racist. <.< Chances are, he can't play half the people on this forum because we'd just get disconnected if we tried.

Maybe for the better. Deity likes his Ganon, and doesn't feel like getting shown up~ xD

:: digresses ::

Can't wait to see how this challenge turns out~
 

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All I can say is, this is stupid.

lol

I need to go on the Samus board and say Samus is trash, just so I can kick a little butt with my awesome (horrible) Ganon.
 

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Xyro, I'm sure you remember me, from Brawl Community. I play a Samus everyday, and I could easily beat him ( the player) . The key is to pay close attention to his Z-air's followups. It only takes that much sense to beat a Samus, Ganon's punish moves is basically all you'll have to do against a Samus.
 

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ok guys, im online. if you wanna play me.....post FC or put FC in your profile.

Remember, its online. So i may not consider you trash if you lose.
 

Z1GMA

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ok guys, im online. if you wanna play me.....post FC or put FC in your profile.

Remember, its online. So i may not consider you trash if you lose.
Don't you dare to lose now Xyro! My money's on you !!
 

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ok guys, im online. if you wanna play me.....post FC or put FC in your profile.

Remember, its online. So i may not consider you trash if you lose.
Im glad you think that way, alot of people I play online take it way too seriously.
 

Xyro77

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ok guys im playing your beloved master. if they are under 3min....expect recorded. if not. ill just post my wins AND losses
 

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We have a beloved master? By the way, I'll play a couple games with you xyro if you're up for it. I'm actually kinda close so lag might not be too bad. Either way I'm down for some games.
 

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Ok so i played Kosk about 10 matches.

He won 3(battle field/halbert/delfino)

I won 7.

Moral of the story, ganon is trash.

HOWEVER, he was MUCH better than i gave him credit for(since hes the best ganon here beside sliq). I repect you guys and your ganons. Im glad you guys main low tier like i do. Keep repin low tier
 

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Ok so i played Kosk about 10 matches.

He won 3(battle field/halbert/delfino)

I won 7.

Moral of the story, ganon is trash.

HOWEVER, he was MUCH better than i gave him credit for(since hes the best ganon here beside sliq). I repect you guys and your ganons. Im glad you guys main low tier like i do. Keep repin low tier
Xyro! can you please tell me..
Did you gimp him for the wins?
 

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Xyro! can you please tell me..
Did you gimp him for the wins?
yes, many times.

Ganon has to recovery from the below the stage or he will be punished, right? Knowing this, i just run off the stage and spike......

also, at times i wasnt sure what he woud do once he was off stage, so i ran off and zair him once or twice and then UP+B back to stage............just to make sure he lost all his jumps and momentum

However, ganons OVER B to jab is gross. u cant escape it
 

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Ganon is not trash

But at the same time

Ganon is trash (vs Samus)

Don't think any of you ganon noobs can beat Xyro.......I've seen him play and your underestimating him.

Even if you think Xyro is really good. That is still underestimating him. That's how good Xyro's Samus is
 

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I just wanted to clear this up. Average human reaction time is about 15-20 frames. Average gamer's reaction time is 10-14 frames. Average melee-player's reaction time is 6-9 frames. An unexpected reaction for an average human is about 30-50 frames.

Xyro is too good. His combo video shows almost none of his skill.
 

Xyro77

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Ganon is not trash

But at the same time

Ganon is trash (vs Samus)

Don't think any of you ganon noobs can beat Xyro.......I've seen him play and your underestimating him.

Even if you think Xyro is really good. That is still underestimating him. That's how good Xyro's Samus is

wow, this is a mindgame on top of a mindgame
 

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I just wanted to clear this up. Average human reaction time is about 15-20 frames. Average gamer's reaction time is 10-14 frames. Average melee-player's reaction time is 6-9 frames. An unexpected reaction for an average human is about 30-50 frames.

Xyro is too good. His combo video shows almost none of his skill.
impressive!!!!!!!!!
 

Finns7

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xyro I want to play a good samus. I have no brawl right now but in a coulple days I prob will. My ganon is broken at times.
 

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I'd also like to play a pretty good samus, I can play brawl anytime right now, so let me know if you want to play.
 

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ill play all you guys if you want. im sure though since kosk is the best wifi ganon here, all the rest of you will be a piece of cake

swoops, i added you. ill host. lets go
 

Xyro77

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I defeated swoop 5-0.

Swoops, your different than kosk....very cool! Thanks for playing me
 

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Ugh, got my *** kicked for the most part. Fun games though. Lol notice me randomly d-smashing :p? ...that's my version of a dash attack.

Hm, if I could ever get to a texas tournament it would be cool to play you in person. Nice online samus though
 

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I just wanted to clear this up. Average human reaction time is about 15-20 frames. Average gamer's reaction time is 10-14 frames. Average melee-player's reaction time is 6-9 frames. An unexpected reaction for an average human is about 30-50 frames.

Xyro is too good. His combo video shows almost none of his skill.
Did they really test Melee player's reaction time? I'm not doubting it, but where did you get this info.?
 

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I like to know how much the Percent/Stock difference per match rather than the overall win/loss ratio....
 

•Col•

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it doesnt matter. a win is a win. in melee, %/stock mattered.
True, but it does matter when you go to another character board and say their character is Trash vs. your character.... The information becomes more relevant... >_>
 

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not really. it doesnt matter, if i was at 290% with 1 stock. i won. in fact i won majority. all it shows is that he got close but could never win. winning is what gets you further in this game......
 

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not really. it doesnt matter, if i was at 290% with 1 stock. i won. in fact i won majority. all it shows is that he got close but could never win. winning is what gets you further in this game......
I meant in supporting you idea that (Insert Character Here) is trash vs. (Insert Character here)... Not whether you won or not...

And I totally disagree with your "winning is what gets you further in this game" statement.... That's absurd... If that were true, then people who started off as inexperienced players would never get any better... They would just keep losing, and never progress....
 
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