Okay... caught up.
And screwwww that reach war. It's like I'm watching a dhalsim ditto.
...Buuut since it's pretty darn important: I think after the dust settles I dislike Gorf's approach to this a little more than Maven's. It's hard to disagree with Laundry's assessment that a scum read should be voiced, and while Maven wasn't the pinnacle of pushing someone it still felt like he was actively bumping around against slots feeling out ideas while I was committed to the murderhole even if none of them got a major push. That part is highly debatable. There were a LOT of reaches from both sides here, but I can't help but notice that Gorf seems to be misrepresenting Maven's posts throughout the game a few times more than I've liked to see from a case that's supposed to be town pushing on scum instead of the other way around.
Here, if you read Maven's post he says "like so many posts" the first time. Even after Gorf pushes on him for the misread Maven just apologizes that he didn't notice it was wrong (it wasn't), and explained what he meant and his mistake. I'm not sure why this was a big deal to point out to Gorf, but chainsaw defense wasn't on my mind and feels like a lame reason to bring this post up in the first place.
You didn't seem to mind me or Nabe doing it nearly this much. Not enough to shoehorn specific semantic meanings to paint a picture of the slot as far more variable than I think it was anyways.
The irony of the first paragraph of this quote being a strawman about his motivations on Orbo while Orbo was gone is not lost on me. I don't think anyone caught flak for largely disregarding Kev while he was V/LA, it's hard to push what isn't there so early.
What's more important to me is that I don't really agree that the push on Laundry was most likely scum-motivated. Laundry was being evaluated for some pretty reasonable suspicions by Nabe at the time (ironically
also for potentially putting the brakes on Jex), enough that I felt like I could make good use of my time backing that push up since Jexs already had all the votes it needed. I don't see why I should assume someone else couldn't come to the same conclusion, even if it ended up making us look bad for seemingly abandoning the lynch afterwards when Laundry didn't let anyone talk that part out before the scumflip. I'm willing to be wrong, but if you were Town here Gorf you tried way too hard to push a bunch of real tenuous stuff too late. I just don't see Maven as being this big bad slot that needs this much thrown at it this badly.
Vote: Gorf
If Gorf flips scum I want Potassium Roleblocked and Vigged. I can't quite articulate why, but lately Gorf and Potassium have slowly drifted to becoming "good" with each other when not much else has really changed between the slot's other picks. I just feel it in my bones.
If Gorf is town, I'll leave it up to discretion if this shiz was just a bad push by Gorf or actually holds merit.