FrogButler
Smash Journeyman
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=928518&topic=40549304
DISCLAIMER:
First off, I did not state ANY of this info. as my own and I myself am still questioning its credibility but, it all seems EXTREMELY legit and well-written. If this is proven, again PROVEN fake, please close this thread. However, as stated by many in the "What will you do when the leak comes" thread, give this kid a chance and read ALL of the info. without debunking it. This seriously could be our huge leak.
So originally, I was a little skeptical, this was posted by some kid named 'nin10dough' at GameFAQS (ugh, here we go again) who states he is a tester for the game and has played the near-final version (same story as always with these "leaks") He states that he has info on the remainder of the characters to be revealed as well as info. on remaining game Modes and Subspace Info.
Fianlly, Subspace Palace sounds to me like a Final Destination II.
Okay, ready for Bombshell Part II. I certainly wasn't...
First off, he states that unlock Subspace Emmisary, Episode 2, has an alternate storyline with some unlockables. Now at first, I though this contradicted what Sakurai said on the Dojo about unlocking characters through Subspace but it actually doesn't. You see, he just stated SE unlocks characters, he didn't ever say they were CHARACTERS in Subspace.
Okay second, that entire list of ranks sounds extremely likely and a rename of the Multi-man is nothing out of the ordinary. Also, for everyone who says "Nintendo would never do ranks, FAKE", check this. It's only ranks between friends. It's not WORLD RANKS. This makes nin10dough's statement ALOT more credible.
Okay, ready for more?
Honestly though, this gave him EVEN MORE credibility. Any other "leaker" would've stated, "Oh yeah, Ridley is totally playable." But no, this kid went all out. Just because his theme is in the game, doesn't mean he is...remember the X: Tunnel Scene update? And Sylux as the 2nd rep no less? WOW, that is also WTF. Of course, Sylux was on Sakurai's poll with 2 votes so good to see him.
Capt. Falcon is unlockable for one thing and along with only a few other unlockables as nin10dough stated earlier is part of the 1st Subspace Emissary Run-Through. His Final Smash sounds exactly like we all expected utilizing the Blue Falcon. Sounds as though, from the description, Samus in her suit actually comes later and you first play as only ZSS. Sounds logical as the first CG we saw of Samus in the Emmissary was of her in the Zero Suit.
Lucario takes Mewtwo's place. Again, expected, we all pretty much knew this...and his moveset sounds cool sounds like a Luigified Mewtwo but way better. And the whole "Ness is back" thing is again a pleasant surprise especcially along with a Wolf and Falco confirmation..
Ganondorf, of course is back and has a VERY interesting moveset. I must try him once more...The white hole in his chest, for those of you who don't know, confirms his Twilight Princess costume.
BTW, for those of you keeping track at home this COMPLETELY lines up with everything the first major "prophet" (The kid who said Dragoon was an item) said. Honestly, this "nin10dough" can't be making this up.
And finally, the moment we've all been waiting for, 3rd Party.
SamuraiPanda. I am crying tears of joy with you right now. Knuckles is in and apparantly has a moveset based around digging and burrowing", very unique and awesome.
KNUCKLES IS IN! HAHAHA!
GENO AND CECIL?!
Perfect reps. We all pretty much suspected Geno but CECIL? PERFECT CHOICE. He reps. old-school FF games and, much like Roy, advertises for the remake coming this summer to DS. Good move, Sakurai.
As for the 500 trophies, that sounds totally rep and 44 characters is a solid amount (he still has yet to comment on about 7 characters. My bet? Olimar and Issac are in that mix...). Also, with the detail to Top Brawler, "friend's consent" rankings sound like the perfect way to go and exactly what the BIG N would do.
So as a quick summary:
-500 Trophies, 44 Characters
-Previously Unconfirmed Characters Include:
-JaJaMaru
-Sheik
-Sylux
-Capt. Falcon
-Lucario
-Ness
-Wolf O' Donnell
-Falco
-Ganondorf
-Knuckles <- YES!
-Cecil
-Geno
-Character DECONFIRMATIONS include:
-Ridley
-Takamaru (Is a AT)
-"Friend's Consent" Ranking System called "Top Brawler" is confirmed.
-Subspace Palace is CONFIRMED as a Stage.
So, all in all, I 99% believe him, and trust me, I'm the guy who's talking about the crap that Prophets make up on Smash Dash this Sunday and I BELIEVE THIS IS REAL. If I believe in it, you totally should, plus all his info. lines up with everything every minute detail that every major leaker(ChaosZero, Serebii) said. IF this guy is making stuff up though, he definitely had some good ideas. I wouldn't have even THOUGHT of Cecil...
GOD...Transcribing all this for you guys took HELLA work. Enjoy!
DISCLAIMER:
First off, I did not state ANY of this info. as my own and I myself am still questioning its credibility but, it all seems EXTREMELY legit and well-written. If this is proven, again PROVEN fake, please close this thread. However, as stated by many in the "What will you do when the leak comes" thread, give this kid a chance and read ALL of the info. without debunking it. This seriously could be our huge leak.
So originally, I was a little skeptical, this was posted by some kid named 'nin10dough' at GameFAQS (ugh, here we go again) who states he is a tester for the game and has played the near-final version (same story as always with these "leaks") He states that he has info on the remainder of the characters to be revealed as well as info. on remaining game Modes and Subspace Info.
Okay WOAH, hold up. That's a ****-load of detailed info. This is right when I began to question that he might be the real deal. Sakurai already stated there would be a Boss Mode and "Boss Showdown!" sounds exactly like what he would call it. The rewards for Subspace do not seem too outrageous and Jajamaru sounds like the perfect WTF character. He was the star of Ninja-Jajamaru-kun for the NES which was one of the first "import" genre games to come to VC. Shiek returning and with a "Harp of the Sheikah" all seems very plausible.nin10dough said:1P MODE:
The Subspace Emissary:
Subspace Emissary is comparable to a choose your own path adventure game. The success and choices you make in your missions effect the outcome of the story. There are several different endings that rely on this factor. The better one preforms, the better the outcome will be (and the final coin reward).
The Subspace Emissary should be the first thing you play, as it unlocks various modes, characters, collectibles, CD's, and stages.
Upon beating Subspace Emissary with a good ending one unlocks:
X2 Sticker Packs
X5 Random Trophies
The Battleship Halberd Trophy
X amount of coins (Usually a huge amount)
Stage: Subspace Palace
Game Mode: Subspace Survival
Game Mode: Boss Showdown! (only the 1P version)
Challenger: JaJaMaru (1st play through)
Subspace Emissary: Episode 2
Also, your Subspace Emissary accomplishments are displayed on the Wi-fi mode:' Top Brawler' profile. (Does not change your rank however).
JaJaMaru is a ninja, I have no clue what game he is from to be honest. He is really fun to play as, and is similar to Sheik except his shuriken are WAY stronger than the needles. His Final Smash is some sort of Frog too, as apposed to Sheik's Harp of the Sheikah, which is a lame attack.
Fianlly, Subspace Palace sounds to me like a Final Destination II.
Okay, ready for Bombshell Part II. I certainly wasn't...
INFORMATION OVERLOAD. Here's where knew this kid was telling the truth.nin10dough said:Subspace Emissary: Episode II is a harder version of the original with an alternate storyline. (Unlocked characters have roles in it unlike the normal mode).
Since you are all curious about the Rank comment.
Top Brawler is a wi-fi mode that allows friends to view each others records over wi-fi. More importantly, there is a 'Top 100' list of players based on these profiles (the ones that submitted the information).
I imagine it will be quite an honor to be on this list once the game gets rolling. (I was ranked 17th! out of all the testers, in case you wanted to know) The number 1 brawler is known as The Top Brawler, and is rewarded with the Top Brawler Trophy. This stays in your collection forever.
There is a list of:
Wifi Matches Won/Lost
Vs Matches Won/Lost
Subspace Acheivements
KO's
Total Playtime
Damage Taken/ Given
Self-Destructs
Classic Mode Highscore
Target Test Best times
Smash Off (Formally Known as Multi-man Melee) Highscores
Homerun Contest Distance
Stickers Aquired
Trophies Aquired
Boss Trophies Aquired
Coin Total
There are many factors more that count toward the ranking formula...
Interestingly enough it also lists non-rankable statistics like which character your friend's play the most, their favorite item, Smash Balls broken, and other fun things..
First off, he states that unlock Subspace Emmisary, Episode 2, has an alternate storyline with some unlockables. Now at first, I though this contradicted what Sakurai said on the Dojo about unlocking characters through Subspace but it actually doesn't. You see, he just stated SE unlocks characters, he didn't ever say they were CHARACTERS in Subspace.
Okay second, that entire list of ranks sounds extremely likely and a rename of the Multi-man is nothing out of the ordinary. Also, for everyone who says "Nintendo would never do ranks, FAKE", check this. It's only ranks between friends. It's not WORLD RANKS. This makes nin10dough's statement ALOT more credible.
Okay, ready for more?
HOLY JEEZ! WTF! These are the big bombshells. NO RIDLEY.nin10dough said:Ridley is not in Brawl at all, not as a boss or character.
The Metroid series only has two playable characters, Sylux and Samus, and Sylux is very similar to Samus.
In response to the post over the Wi-Fi match part of ranking, it counts for every battle, the catch is that it is only seen in this mode.
Takamaru the samurai is in as an Assist Trophy.
Unlocking Captain Falcon is rather hard to explain but I will do my best.
Captain Falcon is in Brawl, you unlock him if you finish Zero Suit Samus's first mission (The first time you play as her)under one minute, and than choose him over Snake, win against Snake, and than pick him over Zero Suit Samus.
Captain Falcon is nearly the same as he was in Super Smash Brother's Melee, but is a bit slower. His Final Smash is "Final Stretch", a random fighter get's "Rival" over their head, and Captain Falcon's ship Blue Falcon,slams toward them (Usually KO'ing, and when it does KO, Captain Falcon crosses his arms and poses with cool fire around him).
For those wondering about Lucario, he requires one to collect 100 trophies to unlock, to me one of the hardest characters to unlock.
His A moves are actually punch combos, every single one of them!
This might seem stale but his B moves make it work very nicely. His standard B move is a blue version of Mewtwo's dark ball, I think it is called Aura Blast or something. Smash+B is Vacuum Punch, which pulls the foe to Lucario. Up B, is Extremespeed, which is like Mewtwo's Teleport, but it is directional like Zelda's, and it causes damage. Down B is Counter, (Think Marth). His Final Smash is 'Close Combat', he dashes at the opponent (Like Link's Final Smash), and than unleashes a blinding fury of punches, easily KO'ing the foe at 40%+.
Ness and Wolf are both in Brawl, to get them you must beat Classic with Lucas and Fox respectively.
Wolf O'Donnell is an interesting character actually, because he plays much differently from Fox (Unlike Falco) He has no Blaster, instead he uses a Rocket Launcher similar to Snake's, and his UP+B is a Jet Pack. If anything he plays like Snake!
Yes, there are third party bosses, as Dr. Eggman and a Metal Gear are fought in the Subspace Emissary.
Ganondorf is in, and he actually has his own moveset. His appearence is much different from that of Super Smash Brothers Melee, and he has a white hole in his chest for some reason. His Down: B pulls out a light sword too, which I thought was very out of character. He has alot of magic based attacks, and is slower than Ike.
Honestly though, this gave him EVEN MORE credibility. Any other "leaker" would've stated, "Oh yeah, Ridley is totally playable." But no, this kid went all out. Just because his theme is in the game, doesn't mean he is...remember the X: Tunnel Scene update? And Sylux as the 2nd rep no less? WOW, that is also WTF. Of course, Sylux was on Sakurai's poll with 2 votes so good to see him.
Capt. Falcon is unlockable for one thing and along with only a few other unlockables as nin10dough stated earlier is part of the 1st Subspace Emissary Run-Through. His Final Smash sounds exactly like we all expected utilizing the Blue Falcon. Sounds as though, from the description, Samus in her suit actually comes later and you first play as only ZSS. Sounds logical as the first CG we saw of Samus in the Emmissary was of her in the Zero Suit.
Lucario takes Mewtwo's place. Again, expected, we all pretty much knew this...and his moveset sounds cool sounds like a Luigified Mewtwo but way better. And the whole "Ness is back" thing is again a pleasant surprise especcially along with a Wolf and Falco confirmation..
Ganondorf, of course is back and has a VERY interesting moveset. I must try him once more...The white hole in his chest, for those of you who don't know, confirms his Twilight Princess costume.
BTW, for those of you keeping track at home this COMPLETELY lines up with everything the first major "prophet" (The kid who said Dragoon was an item) said. Honestly, this "nin10dough" can't be making this up.
And finally, the moment we've all been waiting for, 3rd Party.
nin10dough said:Sonic pairs with Pit/ Mario/ Kirby depending on the choices you make in the Subspace Emissary. You unlock Knuckles actually, by beating Classic Mode with him on Hard.
Knuckles is one the better characters to be honest. He is basically overpowered. He is a very heavy character, yet he is also fast on his feet... and he has tons of strong punches. He can actually climb ledges, when you use his UP B, which is Echindna Glide, and can burrow underground with his DOWN B. His Final Smash is a powerful punch to the ground that literally KO's anyone it hits, damaging anyone one the ground with shockwaves.
SamuraiPanda. I am crying tears of joy with you right now. Knuckles is in and apparantly has a moveset based around digging and burrowing", very unique and awesome.
KNUCKLES IS IN! HAHAHA!
nin10dough said:Capcom has no part of this game, so those asking for Pheonix Wright and Megaman are out of luck. You can expect however, to see two of Square's characters, Cecil and Geno. If you need more detail, Cecil is a faster version of Ike, with a different Final Smash, and Geno is a blue scarecrow from some obscure Mario game that attacks using stars and lazers.
There are 500 trophies in total, and 44 characters.As per my testing, I've tested extensively where I know everything there is to know about the game. I'm taking the time to read everyone's posts, so forgive me for the lack of speedy replies.
All characters have different color schemes, but yes only Wario has an Alternate costume...
For the person asking about Top Brawler, I will tell you that is consent only, and the only way you can view a profile is by having that person on your Friend List.
I'm spent, I can't keep up with all the questions. Good night everyone, I will be back again soon after a good rest, and by than I'll have the energy to post longer replies to all your questions.
GENO AND CECIL?!
Perfect reps. We all pretty much suspected Geno but CECIL? PERFECT CHOICE. He reps. old-school FF games and, much like Roy, advertises for the remake coming this summer to DS. Good move, Sakurai.
As for the 500 trophies, that sounds totally rep and 44 characters is a solid amount (he still has yet to comment on about 7 characters. My bet? Olimar and Issac are in that mix...). Also, with the detail to Top Brawler, "friend's consent" rankings sound like the perfect way to go and exactly what the BIG N would do.
So as a quick summary:
-500 Trophies, 44 Characters
-Previously Unconfirmed Characters Include:
-JaJaMaru
-Sheik
-Sylux
-Capt. Falcon
-Lucario
-Ness
-Wolf O' Donnell
-Falco
-Ganondorf
-Knuckles <- YES!
-Cecil
-Geno
-Character DECONFIRMATIONS include:
-Ridley
-Takamaru (Is a AT)
-"Friend's Consent" Ranking System called "Top Brawler" is confirmed.
-Subspace Palace is CONFIRMED as a Stage.
So, all in all, I 99% believe him, and trust me, I'm the guy who's talking about the crap that Prophets make up on Smash Dash this Sunday and I BELIEVE THIS IS REAL. If I believe in it, you totally should, plus all his info. lines up with everything every minute detail that every major leaker(ChaosZero, Serebii) said. IF this guy is making stuff up though, he definitely had some good ideas. I wouldn't have even THOUGHT of Cecil...
GOD...Transcribing all this for you guys took HELLA work. Enjoy!