Fear not (competitive players).

[NDUDE]

Dash dancing, edge hopping, bomb jumping, and combos all in a convenient package:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfND2BkuKbY

Yes, the speed of the game is a bit slower than Melee, but we've still got SOME old tricks (see: Ken combo). Also, keep in mind that SSB64 is a slower game, and, well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bdg_G1CmRk

That's not exactly slow to me (well, not TOO slow).

Also, keep in mind that core tactics in Melee were not found for a while after it came out. Wavedashing and pillaring, for instance, were not found right off the bat, and ended up being commonly used skills. This means that new tactics will be found for Brawl, and competitive play will take a new form. Don't worry about Brawl's lack of competitive play. As far as I'm concerned, there is none.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Brawl is competitive, no doubt about it.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

Don't worry about Brawl's lack of competitive play. As far as I'm concerned, there is none.

All aboard the yes train!

 

[Tristan_win]

I disagree; just judging from what we have already found I say that brawl will be competitive.

The real question is will it be more competitive then melee?

 

[Ichida]

People have been whining about the loss of some ATs, but the fact is, people are finding all sorts of new ones in Brawl. It's confusing the hell out of me. >.<

 

[Sumenora]

hmmm looks like brawl version dash dancing to me XD......i will make good use of it..

 

[Frogles]

that **** doesnt count as dashdancing. it covers so little distance that it's almost useless. also, i didn't see any combos in that vid. >_>

and @ ssb being slower. at this point, low stock brawl matches take way longer than most 5-stock SSB matches. so it's stupid to say that brawl is faster than ssb.

 

[-Aether]

Intelligent people have always known that a game like Brawl will take several months to develop a competative scene/understanding.

 

[IM_A_HUSTLA]

you cant show that ssb64 being slower but still having combos makes it ok for brawl to be slower and to still have combos, simply because u can SHFFL in SSB64

there is no l-canceling in brawl so SHFFLing is out of the question,

but the attacks diminishing in power thing is going to make things pretty interesting

 

[Sumenora]

that **** doesnt count as dashdancing. it covers so little distance that it's almost useless. also, i didn't see any combos in that vid. >_>

and @ ssb being slower. at this point, low stock brawl matches take way longer than most 5-stock SSB matches. so it's stupid to say that brawl is faster than ssb.

its better then none at all so be happy that its even close...

 

[WastingPenguins]

its better then none at all so be happy that its even close...

It's really NOT close. At all. In fact, all that video does is demonstrate what we've known for a while-- that Brawl's version of dash dancing is completely useless. If you notice, he tries to DD for a bit at the beginning of the match, realizes that it's 100% worthless, and never tries it again.

Anyway, that match was pretty terrible. What's with all the people around here posting fights like this and saying "Hey guys check this out I thought you said Brawl would be slow and have no combos!"... then you proceed to watch the fight and it's sloppy and shows zero combo potential. I'm not saying Brawl won't be great and competitive in the FUTURE, but why are people posting bad videos with beginning players and claiming they're great?

 

[NDUDE]

What's with all the people around here posting fights like this and saying "Hey guys check this out I thought you said Brawl would be slow and have no combos!"... then you proceed to watch the fight and it's sloppy and shows zero combo potential. I'm not saying Brawl won't be great and competitive in the FUTURE, but why are people posting bad videos with beginning players and claiming they're great?

I'm not. I'm showing basic bits of the game to show that Brawl has some serious potential to be just as competitive as Melee.

Also, isn't there auto-l-canceling?

 

[Xanderous]

Whoever is playing isn't very good in the first video.

 

[WoodyDave]

It's really NOT close. At all. In fact, all that video does is demonstrate what we've known for a while-- that Brawl's version of dash dancing is completely useless. If you notice, he tries to DD for a bit at the beginning of the match, realizes that it's 100% worthless, and never tries it again.

Anyway, that match was pretty terrible. What's with all the people around here posting fights like this and saying "Hey guys check this out I thought you said Brawl would be slow and have no combos!"... then you proceed to watch the fight and it's sloppy and shows zero combo potential. I'm not saying Brawl won't be great and competitive in the FUTURE, but why are people posting bad videos with beginning players and claiming they're great?

I think most of it has to do with hype. And no one really knows how the game plays yet until they actually play it. So I agree that these new player videos don't really offer much other than some basic gameplay.

 

[Dark Sonic]

I'm not. I'm showing basic bits of the game to show that Brawl has some serious potential to be just as competitive as Melee.

Also, isn't there auto-l-canceling?

No you're not, and no there isn't

You're showing a vid that really doesn't support your case at all. If you wanted to support your case, you should've acknowledged that there are people that are already better than you and used their vids to make a convincing arguement.

And no, low lag=/=auto L-canceling. Lag canceling involves a player input that cancels lag. Brawl's attacks just have less lag than melee's in general (for the faster characters anyway).

 

[super-7]

and dont forget brawl hasnt even come out in NA so we will obviously develope into faster players u cant even knock brawl for being slow when its been out for a F-ing week!